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Reversion in TAP Portugal

I don't know what kind of reversion you may have made in TAP Portugal page according to your justification, since TAP Portugal doesn't fly to Tel Aviv, nor any other city in Asia. Nupest 0:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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 Fixed.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Jetstreamer. You have new messages at WilliamJE's talk page.
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There was an air show crash in 1938 that killed over 50 people and doesn't an accident article. Would you like to help work on one. Some of the sources are in Spanish. ...William 20:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, why not! I'm kinda busy nowadays but If can be of help, count me in.--Jetstreamer Talk 20:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
FYI I created Santa Ana air show disaster....William 13:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 All fixed.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aeroflot

I'm so sorry, I will be more careful - Nguyen QuocTrung talk 13:10, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great!--Jetstreamer Talk 13:36, 14 February 2014 (UTC).[reply]

I am very grateful for what you do, thanks - Nguyen QuocTrung talk 11:06, 21 February 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Istanbul Ataturk Airport edit

Thank you for clarifying. I completely understand now.Danphilollw (talk) 04:46, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 Fixed.--Jetstreamer Talk 22:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding the removal of maintenance templates

Hello there, dear Wikipedians! Can you please tell me if there's a page that mentions the fact that the removal of maintenance templates constitutes vandalism? Thanks in advance.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:31, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First entry under WP:VANDTYPES any use? Yunshui 雲‍水 14:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it's probably not - but the standard definition of vandalism is intentionally non-specific: if the templates are being removed in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia, then it's vandalism by definition. If there's another reason, then it's not (although WP:DE and WP:EW may apply). Yunshui 雲‍水 14:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Yunshui: Thanks Yunshui, very kind of you. The link you provided first does not mention that the removal of more general maintenance templates (such as {{morerefs}}) is vandalism. I think I've placed the template at London Heathrow Airport some time ago but it was removed. The problem is that the table for airlines and destinations has a number of unsourced entries. I tried to removed them one by one and warn the user(s) that added them, but I couldn't due to intermediate edits. I don't want to tagbomb the table either, so I placed the template again. I expect someone will remove it soon.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, I'd suggest a (polite!) reminder to the other user that maintenance templates are there to encourage improvements to the article, and that they are very welcome to remove the template once they've addressed the issues it raises. You never know, they might actually make some constructive changes. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:51, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Yunshui: Unfortunately, the most general behaviour is to remove them because their presence uglifies the article. Anyway, I'll take your advice. Again, thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:55, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Biman DC-10s

Hi Jetstreamer! Biman is retiring their DC-10s as they are out of scheduled passenger service; they currently doing scenic flights in Birmingham, as a part of its farewell. I am not sure whether to keep the DC-10 in the fleet list or not, as Biman's website's fleet information section is outdated. Will you please help out here? Thanks! - Ahnaaf (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahnaaf: I'd tend to wait until the aircraft type is removed from the official website.--Jetstreamer Talk 19:13, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Attention requested

Your attention is requested here where I have submitted comments for your interest along with several questions I hope you will answer regarding recent changes you have made to the article. I intend to edit this article extensively over the next few days/weeks and want to ensure I have your tacit acceptance that many of the references contained within it will be deleted as per the instructions in the maintenance box, which will then be removed. I have noticed you are patrolling this article and wish to ensure in advance you will be willing to discuss changes you object to rather than simply reverting them with an emphatic edit summary line. Thank you. SonofSetanta (talk) 18:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion between editors is encouraged. Needless to say, I'm open to discuss anything that gets the article improved. Regarding the specific matter you raised, I've replied at the article's talk page.--Jetstreamer Talk 19:12, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ethiopian Airlines ET702 hijacking

Hi Jetstreamer. Thanks for your comment on my talk. If you still think the article about this hijacking should be moved, can you file it at WP:RMTR? That way I won't make a mistake, since I don't recall what the original move proposal said. EdJohnston (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: Done. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 00:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

TAP Portugal destinations

Hello. Well, you could have left the flags, at least. Those are verifiable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondolkiri1 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No comments.--Jetstreamer Talk 00:05, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In other similar pages about other airlines flags are used. So, I'm not really getting the point. About your answer "No comments"... what was that supposed to mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondolkiri1 (talk • contribs) 20:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've left an extense note at your talk page. The articles you mention must be modified so that flags are removed. The "no comments" stuff was a sarcastic reply to you raising the flags matter as a verifiable one. Anyway, feel free to ask anything you want.--Jetstreamer Talk 20:51, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Images lacking a proper source

Hello. I came across this edit, where all the images used seem to lack a proper license. I've tried to tag them for speedy deletion but couldn't do so with Twinkle, getting a message that the page did not exist or something like that. Can you please take a look? Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 23:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those images are hosted on the Wikimedia Commons and must be tagged for deletion over there. And yes, the sample I checked was indeed not released under the claimed license. Huon (talk) 23:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Huon: Didn't realise that. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 23:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ethiopian Airlines Vienna

There you have it Mr. Jetstreamer uber pwned! http://www.ethiopianairlines.com/en/news/pressreleases.aspx?hl=%20511 HAHAHAHAHA!!!! -737-8Z9 (talk) 18:35, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to spend your time providing licenses for the images you uploaded to Commons. My time is precious both here and in my real life.--Jetstreamer Talk 20:15, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Next time just believe me - I have sources you don't have... -737-8Z9 (talk) 15:11, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, at first you did not use those sources you claim you had. Any content that is likely to be challenged should be supported with at least an inline citation to a reliable source directly backing the assertion, as per WP:VERIFY. I hope you have understood that.--Jetstreamer Talk 16:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ohrid Airport

Hi, i completely understand your correction. I don't know but if you want to have informations you can see http://ohd.airports.com.mk/default.aspx?ItemID=361. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariiovalera (talk • contribs) 17:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. As per WP:BURDEN, it's you the one that has to provide inline citations for your changes, not me.--Jetstreamer Talk 17:19, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,again! Thanks for the information!.--

Mariiovalera Talk 21:12, 4 March 2014 (GMT+1)

Aerolineas Argentinas' Fleet

  • LV-BMT is in the desert since 18.12.2013 (source: Planespotters production list & airliners.net's picture on january 4th)
  • LV-CSD stored since 02.11.2013 (planefinder)
  • LV-CSF stored since 28.01.2014 (planefinder)
  • LV-CEK stored since 13.10.2013 (planefinder)

So there is indeed 7 A340-300 in Aerolineas Argentinas' Fleet, including 3 stored aircraft. Strictly speaking I didn't indicate the source, but in facts my modification is correct and verifiable. 94.143.7.25 (talk) 23:19, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Planespotters, planefinder. Those are not reliable sources.--Jetstreamer Talk 00:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. I didn't realize 1) that I forgot to fill the "Edit summary" field with my sources, 2) that I just got a new IP address. Furthermore, I made a mistake: LV-BMT had indeed left the fleet, but LV-FPU joined it in the end of 2013. So there are still 8 A340-300 in the fleet.
About LV-CSD and LV-CSF, they seems unused since Aerolineas Argentinas received their A330-200's. As my english is not perfect, I don't know if an unused aircraft can be considered as "stored". If not, then ok.
Otherwise, why do you consider that Planespotters & Planefinder are not reliable sources? Less than Aerotransport, for example? In my experience, none of them all (including ch-aviation or airliners.net) is perfectly and always right and updated. From time to time, one of them is more accurate and correct, and the next time it's another. I don't think you can trust aerotransport more just because it's a paid site. The best way is probably to crosscheck their informations. 94.143.7.25 (talk) 19:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You don't need to apologise. Yes, I have to concur with you that all the sources you mention are at the same level of reliability to such an extent that the discussion has never been closed at WT:AIRLINES. Ideally, the best source for any fleet is the airline's website. We may use that information for the article if you want, but I have some disagreements with an editor regarding the content of the fleet table when using the official reference.--Jetstreamer Talk 19:30, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agreed. But like you said, ideally... When the airline's website is obviously wrong (excluding normal update delays), I think it's far more relevant (even encyclopedicly speaking) to use another source, as reliable as possible, to provide an information in accordance with facts. Because luckily we're talking about facts here, not ideas or concepts! Example: Iran Air's fleet.94.143.7.25 (talk) 22:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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