User talk:Soorejmg

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Hello, Soorejmg. You have new messages at Shriram's talk page.
Message added 14:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Shriram ^Talk 14:36, 30 March 2014 (UTC) Hi Sriram, If that is the case, it has to be mentioned that Wikipidea is giving publicity for only two parties and influencing people's decision by highlighting NDA and UPA. The format of the page has to be changed in such a way that all parties are recognized equally and not by highlighting a few and mentioning others as 'other party', thus giving less importance. Thanks Soorej[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Soorejmg. You have new messages at Shriram's talk page.
Message added 15:53, 30 March 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Next time I will not leave talkback here. Please visit my talk page to read my reply. I usually reply within a day. Shriram ^Talk 15:53, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kejriwal

Hi Soorejmg,
I saw the discussion at Talk:Indian general election, 2014 and I am still not convinced why Kejriwal is excluded from the userbox. I have raised the issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. Hope you will help me. RRD13 (talk) 03:42, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Roy,

I have posted a comment in that talk you messaaged. A dispute resolution was also started in below link- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Indian_general_election,_2014#AAP

Thanks SoorejSoorejmg (talk) 17:00, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

April 2014

Hello, I'm Shriram. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Indian general election, 2014 because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. This edit Shriram ^Talk 13:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your contributed article, India LokSabha Elections 2014

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Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, India LokSabha Elections 2014. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Indian general election, 2014. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Indian general election, 2014 – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Shriram ^Talk 13:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your contributed article, India LokSabha Elections 2014

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You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, India LokSabha Elections 2014. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Indian general election, 2014. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Indian general election, 2014 – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Shriram ^Talk 16:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove file deletion tags from file description pages on Wikipedia, as you did to India LokSabha Elections 2014, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Shriram ^Talk 16:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring warning

Your recent editing history at Indian_general_election,_2014 shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:40, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from pages that you have created yourself, as you did with India LokSabha Elections 2014. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Shriram ^Talk 17:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shriram, First reply to the talk in India General Elctions,2014. Then continue talking here.

Thank Soorej

This is your last warning. The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Indian general election, 2014, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Shriram ^Talk 17:46, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Campaigning in the Indian general election, 2014. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.Shriram ^Talk 14:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shriram, Campaigning in the Indian general election, 2014 is a very critical and high profile topic. What you are trying to do is bias people Opinion using Wikipedia. You are highlighting specific political party leaders. As I observed this, I tried including other parties in the page and removed the highlighted political party leaders. You revert it back immediately and then dont respond properly on the talk page, finally leaving the high profile topic visible to people. This cannot be allowed. So I had to revert it back and now you put a Edit war on me?!!!! Unbelievable!!! Your same actions was being discussed in India General Election 2014, and you are aware about it but still continue to do this after including the Campaigning in the Indian general election, 2014 in Indian General election page.

Thanks SOorej

You think you are doing the right thing but you are not. It was not my action that is being discussed, it is your action. Don't target me personally. Shriram ^Talk 15:14, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shriram, Please dont play with words. I clearly mentioned the issue.

Thanks SoorejSoorejmg (talk) 15:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actions speak louder than words, my friend. Shriram ^Talk 15:39, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shriram Friend, You Playing with words fto deviate actual issue. COme back to the issue.

Campaigning in the Indian general election, 2014 is a very critical and high profile topic. What you are trying to do is bias people Opinion using Wikipedia. You are highlighting specific political party leaders. As I observed this, I tried including other parties in the page and removed the highlighted political party leaders. You revert it back immediately and then dont respond properly on the talk page, finally leaving the high profile topic visible to people. This cannot be allowed. So I had to revert it back and now you put a Edit war on me?!!!! Unbelievable!!! Your same actions was being discussed in India General Election 2014, and you are aware about it but still continue to do this after including the Campaigning in the Indian general election, 2014 in Indian General election page.

Thanks Soorej

Already discussed on talk page. Mention your views there. Shriram ^Talk 16:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He has edit warred before and continues to do so, User:Shriram, filing a complaint against him would be legitiamte as he has 3RR'd before and shown no willingness to change. NOt to mention demanding his POV.Lihaas (talk) 18:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring, as you did at Indian general election, 2014. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:20, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Soorejmg (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hi User:HJ Mitchell, I agree that as a new user I was engaged in Edit war earlier without knowing the actual process in Wiki. Later I was blocked and after that I am following a proper process to get things solved. I would like to inform you that it is observed that the page Indian_general_election,_2014 is used by certain users to highlight certain leaders while degrading others. Now Indian Elections are going on and the page content influence the judgement of people by creating a wrong impression. I had opened a Dispute resolution for this, but as the General Election being a high profile subject, needed a high priority intervention. Even after multiple discussion in many ways, the Users keep highlighting certain parties. Many useful data were removed. This was basically providing biased information to Public by removing certain data and highlighting certain data. When I was opposing this act, I was highlighted as doing Edit war again. I was continuously asking them to discuss before removing any useful data which had confirmed sources. Instead of discussing one just put an edit war on me and second one supported it. I am placing the Dispute resolution that is going on for the India Election Page here: Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Indian_general_election . If you could go through the content, you can see the User: EvergreenFir and User: Wikishagnik mentioning 2 things- * a. I am following a proper channel to solve the concerns * b. Asking to raise a WP:RFC and in worst case WP:ANI. Based on all these Items, I request you for the below 3 items: * 1. Unblock me * 2. Help putting a high priority intervention in Indian_general_election,_2014 page &Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Indian_general_election page * 3. Monitor actions of Users Shriram and Lihaas on pages thry contribute, especially on the Indian_general_election,_2014. There is a chance of group of users who are engaged in manipulating elections outlook. As this is high profile subject related to National Election of India, Administrator intervention is required for Quick actions Soorejmg (talk) 04:45, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

No amount of explaining that you think your edits were justified makes edit warring acceptable. Nor does edit warring become acceptable because you were taking other steps, such as pursuing dispute resolution: that should be done instead of edit warring, not as well as edit warring. You were warned more than once about edit warring, but you chose to continue to do so. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:49, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Hi JamesBWatson,

I agree that I was edit warring initially and I was blocked that time , completely agree with that. But the edit war this time given is not valid. I had input data to the page with valid sources and it was deleted without any discussion on the topic. After that an edit war was put on me. It was not me who was doing edit war, it was Shriram and Lihas . Could you consider the 3 points which I have highlighted? Even if my block is not removed, consider the rest of the items. If you could go through the past history in Indian General Election, it will be clear that a group is trying to project certain leaders.

1. Unblock me - Even If I am not unblocked please consider atleast 2 and 3 as they are valid.
2. Help putting a high priority intervention in Indian_general_election,_2014 page &Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Indian_general_election page --- India Election is going on now which is a very ssensitive topic
3. Monitor actions of Users Shriram and Lihaas on pages thry contribute, especially on the Indian_general_election,_2014.

Thanks SOorej Soorejmg (talk) 15:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Herare just a few edits where you were edit warring. There were many more. [1] [2] [3]. The king of the sun (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi The king of the sun, These are the pages that Shriram was edit warring. He was just removing the content that that was added with valid sources. How can he issue an edit war against me then?. I was asking him to discuss before removing the content which he was not doing.

Please consider these two points-

2. Help putting a high priority intervention in Indian_general_election,_2014 page &Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Indian_general_election page --- India Election is going on now which is a very ssensitive topic
3. Monitor actions of Users Shriram and Lihaas on pages thry contribute, especially on the Indian_general_election,_2014.

Thanks SoorejSoorejmg (talk) 23:28, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since he dragged me here, by mentioning me, I would like to comment. I never comment, when an unblock request is made. But he is so arrogant. I still don't understand why he is targeting us, especially me. He went to dispute resolution and complained there, said I dictated the page and edit warred, by the way, removing biased contents, reverting removal of contents are not edit war. Pardon my language, but he is so arrogant and perhaps even uncivilized while discussing. I think he needs to follow civility. Look at these links: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and many more. This clearly shows he is trying push his points. He is interested in only aam admi pary and is insisting to make changes only to that party this might, perhaps be soapboxing. Again he is trying to push some other 3 points in the request itself. I tried to give him homework to read 5 pillars and that kind of a stuff, but he never listened. I am not an admin, but my view is that, now the article is calm, unblocking him might result in controversial edits, manipulation of article and addition of completely biased contents. He himself asked editors to give high priority to aam aadmi party in the name of equal importance by assuming the assumption of good faith. Shriram ^Talk 04:51, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shriram,

I am Placing the exact points I made in dispute resolution here. Please don't change the meaning of what I mean by deleting one or two words in Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Indian_general_election

1. The photos of PM candidates of UPA and congress has to be removed or else include PM candidates of all parties

2. Remove parties from 'Other parties' in contents section ( as it lower the importance of those parties) and give equal importance as given to UPA and NDA

3. Make the character size of UPA NDA and AAM AADMI Party same ( making rest of parties loosing importance)

4 .Change the Order of Display of content- Put AAM AADMI PARTY first if it is being said that there no importance in the order in which parties are listed

So, what I said is either include all party leader or include none. You keep insisting on highlighting only two users. I have seen other users also discussing the topic and you have also avoided their requests. Later, in the Talk page , the discussion topics were also split up and some one has archived the discussion topic to another page to make sure that each individual users does not know that there are similar requests. This is very clear from history of talk page. This was one thing. I would like to invite User: EvergreenFir and User: Wikishagnik to make things clear here as Shriram is trying to create a wrong idea with Administrators that I was not doing things properly.

Second thing that Shriram accused me was that I am doing Edit war:

This is what happened:

1. I added Valid data in the page with accurate source.
2. Without any discussion, the data was removed by Shriram
3. I added the data again and asked him to discuss with me before removing
4. he removed the data and put and edit war.
5. Lihaas who is seemed to have a common interest that of Shriram supported it
6. I was blocked

The fact is he was avoiding the discussion, without discussing he was deleting content with valid source and then putting an edit war on me.

I would also like to invite other Users who I have seen in talk history who had placed similar requests but was rejected by Shriram and Lihaas by one or other invalid reasons in Talk:Indian_general_election,_2014 & Talk:Indian_general_election,_2014/Archive_1 ( the acrhived one which I mentioned earlier which containted important discussions)----

Hi Janmejai , Soman, RaviC, GKCH, 25_Cents_FC, Logical1004, Bill_william_compton, Royroydeb

This is about the stand that Shriram and Lihaas has taken in giving priorities to certain parties alone in the page Indian_general_election,_2014 mainly in using userbox to highlight certain leaders alone and also controlling the content of the page with one or other unjustifiable reasons. I have seen that both of them has issued edit war on some users, not allowed content related to other parties and such. Basically they were dealing with individual contributors as a gang to introduce biased information in the page. Please share your experience after going through the above items.

I would request also the administrators attention in this case as this is a case of clear Wikipedia:COI Paid or Biased editing forming a secret group in wikipedia. The king of the sun, JamesBWatson, User:HJ Mitchell, Utcursch could you please have a look into this.

Unfortunately telling the truth directly looks like personal attacks but if one has the patience to go through talk page and dispute resolution page, many things are clear. Hope some one would take an initiative for this. I am a new user in Wiki but very clearly, the biased information can been seen projected in the page Indian_general_election,_2014

Thanks Soorejmg (talk) 06:24, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, this is getting ridiculous. You are assuming bad faith and making personal attacks, and that is unacceptable. You did edit war and refuse to acknowledge it. And you appear to be a single purpose account and WP:NOTHERE. Please just stop. EvergreenFir (talk) 06:28, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There he goes again. Who did this? I think I should apply for an interaction ban. This is going personal. Shriram ^Talk 07:35, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Janmejai , Soman, RaviC, GKCH, 25_Cents_FC, Logical1004, Bill_william_compton, Royroydeb ,Utcursch,

Could you please comment here if you had found Shriram and Lihaas actions suspicious in Indian_general_election,_2014.

Thanks Soorejmg (talk) 10:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What does "edit warring" mean?

This is my last attempt to clarify this issue to you. An editor who repeatedly changes an article back to how he or she thinks it should be, when one or more others editors change it away from that version, is edit warring. That is what "edit warring" means. That is what you were doing. The fact that you think your edits were right and other editors were wrong does not alter the fact that you were repeatedly reverting to your preferred version. That is what I was trying to convey when I wrote "No amount of explaining that you think your edits were justified makes edit warring acceptable", but you don't seem to have understood it, so I have tried to clarify it. I hope that helps you to understand. Wikipedia's policy on edit warring is, basically, "don't edit war", not "don't edit war unless you are convinced that you are right". Indeed, it would be completely meaningless to have a policy which exempted any editor who was convinced that he or she was right, as in most edit wars everybody involved thinks they are right. Also, insisting that one or more other editors have been edit warring is completely off the point. An unblock request for you is assessed on the basis of what you have done, not what others have done. It may be that other editors have been edit warring on an article, but if so, that does not mean that repeated reverts by you somehow don't count as edit warring. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 07:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JamesBWatson,

Thanks you. I am understanding the Edit warring concept clearly now but the point I am making is-

I the 2nd step below, was Shriram not supposed to discuss before removing the data that was added?. That was not done.

1. I added Valid data in the page with accurate source.
2. Without any discussion, the data was removed by Shriram
3. I added the data again and asked him to discuss with me before removing
4. he removed the data and put and edit war.
5. Lihaas who is seemed to have a common interest that of Shriram supported it
6. I was blocked

Thanks Soorej Soorejmg (talk) 10:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Soorej