Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Hardcastle

Daniel Hardcastle

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I couldn't find any articles or stories that were independent and reliable about the subject in question on Google News and Google. Therefore it fails WP:NWEB and thus is elligible for deletion. Acalycine^{(talk/contribs)} 02:49, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are references from Eurogamer, Edge, Joystiq, Radio Times, Metro etc - notability has definitely been asserted through widespread coverage in major publications. Also, I found every one of these via Google and Google News, so unsure why you are apparently having problems. Nik thestunned 08:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The subject only got mentions in Eurogamer, Edge, Joystiq, Radio Times, Metro, etc. Mentions are most often not enough to assert notability, as per first bullet point of WP:GNG. I've found nothing in Google News searching Daniel Hardcastle -wikipedia or NerdCubed -wikipedia, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about there. I appreciate your vote. Acalycine^{(talk/contribs)} 10:32, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's literally the way I found those sources lol (though I have had troubles since they removed the "archive search" I have to admit...) so don't know why they're no longer showing. Nik thestunned 11:50, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Sources only mention Hardcastle in passing. Joystiq has one sentence, which mentions someone describing him as a "big YouTuber", which isn't enough of a claim of notability; Radio Times is an article about an interview he did with Steven Moffatt, and says nothing about Hardcastle - not everyone who interviews a famous person is themselves famous; Edge has one sentence, describing him as a "YouTube personality", which again isn't a significant enough claim to notability. Clearly, he has some kind of following on YouTube, but not enough for reliable sources to discuss his work in depth, and not enough to meet our notability criteria. Moswento ^talky 10:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Nice amount of source coverage for this comedian. — Cirt (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- But the source coverage consists of a few passing mentions and a few sources sharing one of his interviews (without offering commentary on his work). Moswento ^talky 09:21, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Not enough secondary sources to pass WP:N comfortably, but the article meets other parts of WP:N well enough to grant a pass. SpeedyAstro (talk) 06:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

May I ask what other parts of WP:N this article meets? Acalycine^{(talk/contribs)} 07:55, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:N "There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected." There are enough sources that just give a mention to give some information, (what is there to give? You can learn a lot about this person from his own fan following and channel, so secondary sources don't really have to analyze it) but not enough high-depth sources. Unless something happens, this page may stay a permanent stub, but, in my opinion, it is notable. Barely. SpeedyAstro (talk) 17:29, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There are a lot of sources, yes, but most of them aren't about him and can't reasonably be used to build more information into the article. —Soap— 01:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a promotional article with no reliable 3rd person sources sources for notability. "[A notable game developed] attributed the success of his game to a number of people, including him" is not a accomplishment suitable for an encyclopedia, DGG ( talk ) 05:34, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:15, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Daniel has a large following on YouTube spanning several million users. I think this in itself grants him notability. 217.23.235.99 (talk) 15:01, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As the user just above me said, this page is purely promotional and is only gaining him notability, not informing users. Most of the sources are straight from Hardcastle himself. Bailmoney27 ^talk 16:15, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As you mentioned above many of the sources are from Hardcastle, who better to give information about a man than the man himself.
Delete. That is precisely the reason why this article is being considered for deletion - there need to be reliable third-party sources. Dan can say whatever he wants about himself, but that doesn't mean it's true. There needs to be confirmation from sources other than the subject themselves. Xomm 22:24, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
It should be noted that this deletion consideration vote has been linked^[1] on Dan's official subreddit today, so there may be a new voters coming in who are very biased. Just thought I would warn everyone. I'm not voting nor using my normal account because I know my vote would be biased. 198.71.103.80 (talk) 21:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^ http://www.reddit.com/r/nerdcubed/comments/24sw3u/dans_wikipedia_entry_is_being_deleted_hes_not/

Delete. I do feel biased towards keeping this article, but at the same time, the only sources that are available are ones that come from Dan himself or ones that barely mention him. Unless this can be addressed, this article should be deleted.
Keep. My POV is biased, but the article seems well-written and sourced properly. Dan has 1.6 million subscribers which to me speaks of notability for itself. Amunak (talk) 22:49, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There are not enough third party sources with enough information for people to educate themselves about Daniel Hardcastle other than his own videos. If all you need for an article is your own videos as a source, anyone could make an article about themselves. 81.170.232.68 (talk) 22:55, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Compare the article to the likes of Total Biscuit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Biscuit among others who are of a similar field. While it may be shorter or not as detailed it could be improved or updated with various content.
Delete as no indication of notability. →Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 23:43, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This page has been linked to Reddit with a suggestive title. While I will not assume bad faith, it is fair to be notified that single purpose accounts may contribute to this discussion. http://www.reddit.com/r/nerdcubed/comments/24sw3u/dans_wikipedia_entry_is_being_deleted_hes_not/ Tutelary (talk) 00:29, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP OMG YOU CAN NOT DELETE THE PAGE OF SOMEBODY WHO IS SO SEXY. I CANT. I CANT EVEN. ---JuneSpaLove4eva — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junespalove4eva (talk • contribs) 02:15, 6 May 2014 (UTC)— Junespalove4eva (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Keep. Dan has had a pretty big impact in the gaming world, influencing the futures of quite a few indie games, for example. I think that's worth some notability. Also, it's not as if this page is just a page about some random guy. Dan has a rather huge following of over one and a half million people, with over 750 videos uploaded. If this online celebrity isn't worthy of his own page, are any of them? Rakki9999111 (talk) 07:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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