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The pants are called "zubon". A "hakama" is something different. Hence I corrected the entry. -- Kennin may 23rd, 4:26 (CET)
Simple Corrections, & Is That Really An Obi?
I corrected the grammar, and removed a blatantly false claim that it holds up pants it doesn't even touch. Obi do not hold up pants, they simply hold the kimono, or apparently uwagi closed. Nagajuban have their own belts, and hakama have their own bit to tie to hold them up. Those other pants probably also hold themselves up instead of requiring a separate, detached piece to do it. And, I'm pretty that's the case, because we never see the pants those must be requiring a belt. From a "western" perspective, it probably made sense to assume a belt holds up pants, but that is not the way obi work. Obi are mostly (or explicitly, if that is not actually an obi) sashes, not belts, and serve the same functions as sashes. The karate belt called an obi in this might not even be an obi at all, and probably has a distinct name, because it's more like a belt to hold shut a nagajuban than an obi. Obi are sashes, so I don't think those are considered obi. Despite that, they function like obi, in that they only hold the uwagi closed, just as obi only hold the kimono closed. (Obi are akin to other sashes worn throughout Asia, by pretty much every Asian culture in existence, including Slavic cultures (kontusz sash). Like in others, it is a sash, not a belt, and it both holds shut a robe (kimono, and is there for decorative/beautification purposes.) Someone should probably look it up if the karate belts are indeed considered obi. --174.19.234.173 (talk) 21:02, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
