Talk:Banana

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Genetically Modified Banana Article

I recently added this to the page for vaccine. More complex plants such as tobacco, potato, tomato and banana, can have genes inserted that cause them to produce vaccines usable for humans. Sala, F.; Manuela Rigano, M.; Barbante, A.; Basso, B.; Walmsley, AM; Castiglione, S (January 2003). "Vaccine antigen production in transgenic plants: strategies, gene constructs and perspectives". Vaccine. 21 (7–8): 803–8. PMID 23888738. {{cite journal}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help) There is a seperate page for genetically modified tomatoes; should there be one for bannanas and other fruits and vegetables?

Are there actually any commercially important genetically modified bananas? If there were, perhaps there could be a page, but I'm not convinced at present. Peter coxhead (talk) 12:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bananas are man created

   I was on Scishow and I came across this really interesting video of bananas.

Turns out, bananas are now, human created and are never organic. I did a basic scan of this page, and I did not find anything about bananas that are man-made. I think we should add that in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheQ Editor (talk • contribs) 17:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The commercially available "dessert" and plantain bananas are the pinnacles of agriculture, being hybrid descendants and mutant descendants of thousands of thousands of years old cultivars. "Organic" (however you define it) bananas would probably wild species of Musa, and would probably have thousands of pebble-like, tooth-cracking seeds.--Mr Fink (talk) 18:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What plants used for food are not "man-made" in the sense that bananas are? Peter coxhead (talk) 20:33, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from wild-harvested plants?--Mr Fink (talk) 21:04, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading production data

The recent archiving of old material here has removed an important warning. FAO and similar production data is misleading, as is explained at Banana#Production and export, unless statistics for "bananas" and "plantains" are combined. Some countries separate their data for "bananas" and "plantains", but three of the world's top four producers do not. So adding up stated production of "bananas" alone is misleading, and significantly underestimates world production. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bananas are not fruit.

This article describes bananas as fruit. Although it does describe taxonomy, this is at a low level. It would be informative to readers to properly describe bananas as herbs. The article on Musa correctly does this, but readers should not have to read linked articles to discover very basic facts like what sort of plant it is. FreeFlow99 (talk) 16:46, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Already taken care of in the first sentence of the lead. Plantsurfer (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Banana" is mainly used for the fruit, in my experience, although it is used for the plant which is often incorrectly called a "banana tree" (almost half a million Google hits), although "banana plant" is obviously better. So, yes, bananas are fruit; they are also the plants from which the fruit is obtained. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:33, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

This article has been protected since 2010? I think it's time to try to unprotect it. The original vandals have likely grown up and moved on to better, or worse, things. 205.156.84.229 (talk) 04:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And how do we know that other vandals will not swoop down to continue what their predecessors started? Especially with a well-known topic like banana?--Mr Fink (talk) 04:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. And it's not just deliberate vandals. Topics like this, which almost everyone thinks they know about from experience, constantly attract incorrect additions by well-meaning editors. A particular problem here is that the range of banana cultivars known in the countries with English as the mother tongue is very, very limited compared to the world as whole, which leads to false impressions (e.g. that all bananas are yellow-skinned and white-fleshed, or that bananas and plantains are completely distinct non-overlapping categories). Peter coxhead (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I'm fine with giving it a trial run as unprotected. The article's on a fair number of peoples' watchlists and it's not very hard to revert vandalism if it comes up. Alternatively, since there's no specific reason to think there's a threat here, why not change the protection status to Pending Changes Level 1 Protection. That works well on decently high-profile BLP articles in my experience, I see no reason why it wouldn't work here. 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 18:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is freedom! Unprotect the article