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Multiple sclerosis

You wrote:

On multiple sclerosis you added a table listing the sales of individual drugs used for that condition. This is somewhat unusual, and certainly doesn't have a precedent. I don't think it is very useful for the general reader. As such, I have temporarily removed the content. If you wish to discuss this further, consider starting a thread on Talk:Multiple sclerosis.

For now I have not removed a similar table on chemotherapy, because one could argue that it is more informative. Still, others may feel differently. JFW | T@lk 21:31, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a comment in the Talk section: Please can you state your opinion also there to discuss the topic? --LamasUI (talk) 06:06, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template filling from a DOI ref

Many thanks for this. Is there a tool that does this for DOI refs? The software (browsers etc) we can use here are annoyingly restricted for security reasons, but even at home I don't currently have a tool that works for DOIs (PubMed is fine). As you know, most of the old "independent" tools have dropped out. It's a bit crazy. Wiki CRUK John (talk) 11:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki CRUK John I wish we had a better template filler. I would go further and say that the reason this doesn't work is massively offputting to medical contributors.
Most articles with DOIs also have PMIDs, so I sometimes use the DOI to search Pubmed and then use the PMID to fill the template using Diberri's tool. Generally, this works. I then still have to manually populate the URL field if the article is free. JFW | T@lk 12:09, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. I agree it is a ridiculous and damaging situation, and most unhelpful when you are training people. I'm able to get stuff straight away on or before publication - I had that article on an embargoed press basis before you did - and I often find there's no PMID, as presumably they take a while to be set up. I can't imagine a new tool would be the most complicated piece of programming for those who do such things. Wiki CRUK John (talk) 13:44, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
For quite a while it was possible to insert the {{cite journal}} template from the editing toolbar. It would automatically populate the fields after a DOI was inserted. The performance has been really patchy on some browsers and I don't rely it now.
Perhaps the WikiProject Med Foundation might consider commissioning a failsafe template filler. I must ask Jmh649 if that would fall within the Foundation's remit. JFW | T@lk#
no the toolbar doesn't work for me, from DOIs. Anywhere, I think. Or ask WhatamIdoing Wiki CRUK John (talk) 14:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The toolbar with cite journal works for me using the standard vector skin on Chrome, Firefox and Opera as long as I put in just the doi numbers like "10.1161%2FCIRCULATIONAHA" because it's not smart enough to strip extraneous characters like 'doi'. It doesn't work on my old monobook skin but I have an ancient interface that drops down a form inline to add citations, rather than the newer popup form (I can't even remember what gadget does that). I wouldn't be surprised if it malfunctioned using IE. My guess is that a feature that mostly works with the standard interface and standards-compliant browsers is quite unlikely to receive any priority from WMF developers. I must admit that I tend to convert {{cite doi}} by reading the PMID from its output and popping it into http://tools.wmflabs.org/citation-template-filling/cgi-bin/index.cgi as that does a better job and gives me more options. If there's no PMID available yet, then there's really no point in using anything other than the doi. Somebody can always come along later and upgrade it to a 'proper' citation. --RexxS (talk) 15:20, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]


mw:Citoid is underway and may be ready for production in a few months. That will allow you to take a URL like http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25050137 and turn it into this in two clicks. It's not perfect at the moment, partly because the current testing tool is entirely URL-based instead of doi- or PMID-based (in this case, it omits the PMID and uses the URL), but the diff should give you a feel for the overall goal.
The initial work is being done in VisualEditor, but it will eventually work everywhere (even outside Wikipedia, if someone wanted to set it up locally). One of the major goals is to have it available at all the Wikipedias. Most of the local scripts are only available at en.wp, and some of them have maintenance problems. If you'd like to try out Citoid in VisualEditor, then replicate this edit in your common.js file. (You'll have to turn on VisualEditor in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures, if you haven't already.) The user script will add a new line, "Cite by URL" to the Cite menu. All you have to do is paste in your URL and click to insert the reference. It's very "pre-alpha", and the server occasionally falls over, but it's working pretty well for PubMed refs. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Asthma

Mr. Wolf, We need to have a serious talk about Asthma. Have you done any reading about ASTHMA? The Beta Adrenergic Theory is the ONLY Theory of Asthma that can be associated with one name {not including crackpots} so your question about other names insults my intelligence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not only that but in contrast to other theories this one has been cited more than any other article in the history of the Journal of Allergy according to the GARFIELED LIBRARY at The University of Pennsylvania. Last but not least, my comment would be out of place in the history section because it relates DIRECTLY to the BA2 polymorphism. Since other polymorphisms CANNOT be related to a specific theory, much less to a specific individual, your comment doesn't make any sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Belgrade Glendenning (talk • contribs) 16:45, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, you seem to have a typo or two. That should be a "D" at the start and two "f"s at the end, to correctly spell "Dr. Wolff".
You may have misunderstood the question at Talk:Asthma. The question is whether, in looking over the article, you saw any researchers being mentioned by name outside the history section. The implication is that if nobody at all is getting "advertised" in the scientific or medical parts of the article, then mentioning your favorite researcher there is not appropriate. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Belgrade Glendenning I don't think you're going to get very far on Wikipedia unless you get used to communicating better with other users. Remaining civil and avoiding personal attacks are key policies.
I don't dispute the fact that Szentivanyi may have contributed to the understanding of asthma, but I am unsure why is should be presented in the way that it was. I tried to explain in the edit summary and on the talk page that you needed to look at this, but instead I'm receiving a barrage of muscular language. JFW | T@lk 19:18, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You won't back down. Right? You know absolutely nothing about what you edit, don't want to be educated, and prefer to hide behind Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Belgrade Glendenning (talk • contribs) 18:50, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Belgrade Glendenning. This is not a matter of backing down. You are adding a very prominent mention of one particular scientist by name, which goes quite against the style of the article. That was the predominant reason for my response to your edit. I am disappointed by the fact that you continue using harsh language, because it shows that you thoroughly misunderstand the collaborative nature of Wikipedia. JFW | T@lk 19:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FAC revert

Thanks for reverting my accidental revert, and apologies for making it. The result of trying to read my Watchlist on an iPhone while driving. Euryalus (talk) 00:40, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Medical Translation Newsletter Aug./Sept. 2014

Medical Translation Newsletter
Issue 2, Aug./Sept. 2014
by CFCF

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Feature – Ebola articles

Electron micrograph of an Ebola virus virion

During August we have translated Disease and it is now live in more than 60 different languages! To help us focus on African languages Rubric has donated a large number of articles in languages we haven't previously reached–so a shout out them, and Ian Henderson from Rubric who's joined us here at Wikipedia. We're very happy for our continued collaboration with both Rubric and Translators without Borders!

Just some of our over 60 translations:
New roles and guides!

At Wikimania there were so many enthusiastic people jumping at the chance to help out the Medical Translation Project, but unfortunately not all of them knew how to get started. That is why we've been spending considerable time writing and improving guides! They are finally live, and you can find them at our home-page!

New sign up page!

We're proud to announce a new sign up page at WP:MTSIGNUP! The old page was getting cluttered and didn't allow you to speficy a role. The new page should be easier to sign up to, and easier to navigate so that we can reach you when you're needed!

Style guides for translations

Translations are of both full articles and shorter articles continues. The process where short articles are chosen for translation hasn't been fully transparent. In the coming months we hope to have a first guide, so that anyone who writes medical or health articles knows how to get their articles to a standard where they can be translated! That's why we're currently working on medical good lede criteria! The idea is to have a similar peer review process to good article nominations, but only for ledes.

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-- CFCF 🍌 (email) 13:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

sorry if this is the wrong place jfdwolff. In dental implants section I provided a really nice Cat Scan image that was removed and replaced by a Canadian dental practice. I object but wanted to speak with you first bc there is no added benefit with the replacement. DentalSchoolProfessor (talk) 23:22, 30 September 2014 (UTC)dentalschoolprofessor[reply]

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