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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Rak-Tai (talk | contribs) at 03:38, 10 October 2014 (Objection to deleting user page). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Precious AnmaFinotera

Today's FA, Meerkat Manor, (MM, following MMM) was written by AnmaFinotera. I would like to tell her (?) that she is precious, but the user pages are protected. I say so here, and perhaps a calm, wise and helpful admin can find a way to move it?

Meerkat Manor
Thank you, AnmaFinotera, for quality articles on topics such as "a frozen treat I loved as a child to the truth behind why I could never find a film I loved on video for so long, to learning the hilarious background of" Night of the Lepus, "to discovering an amazing author I now admire for her dedication to her art", for featured topic Meerkat Manor (Nature–Documentary–Drama) and for Lad, A Dog, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (25 July 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your intent, Gerda, but AF's talk page was protected at their request when they retired several years ago, and AF redirected it to their user page. It seems pretty clear they didn't want further communication. If it had been protected as administrative punishment of some kind, I'd probably be willing to copy it onto their talk page, but AF isn't blocked, or being punished. If they wanted to leave with no further communication, I'm inclined to respect their wish.
So that's calm, but not helpful, and whether it's wise is open to debate. 50% isn't bad. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:55, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the friendly parking position, it's helpful ;) (There's not even a talk page.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

78.2% of statistics are totally made up

Simple linear regression model of Mariners winning percentage by year; R2=0.798

I see you've been having some ongoing trouble predicting the outcome of Seattle Mariners seasons. I'm here to help. Since Wikipedia is nothing if not a venue for clueless amateur statisticians to showcase the Dunning-Kruger effect, I decided to bring a quantitative approach to your assistance. I fit a simple linear regression model to the Mariners' winning percentage by year since 2010. As you can see, next year the Mariners will have a winning percentage of 0.568, which should definitely be good enough for a wild-card spot. Extending the linear regression model further, the Mariners will achieve a winning percentage of 1.000 and have a perfect season in 2027 (data not shown). In case you were about to throw down and question the validity of this model, you should know that its R2 is 0.798, which is pretty damn good (in descriptive terms). Place your bets today. MastCell Talk 01:06, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I forgive you (this time) for assuming I know less about statistics than you, but please don't make that mistake again. There is a glaring error in your analysis. The data from 2010 and 2011 and 2012 is obviously "old" data, and has little relevance. The trend using only "newer, fresher" data starting in 2013 to project their performance has an R^2 of 1.0, which I note is better than your R^2. As a result, I expect a 0.636 season next year, good enough for 103 wins and likely a World Series victory.
I'm especially excited about 2019 and beyond, when they will start to win more than one game per game played. Suck on that, Anahiem. --Floquenbeam (talk) 11:41, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow... I bow to your superior ability in manipulating statistics to fool the gullible. Have you ever considered a career in social psychology? :P MastCell Talk 20:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Number of times the Nationals have had the best regular-season record in baseball in the last three years: 2
  • Number of times the Nationals have made it out of the first round of playoffs in the last three years: 0
  • Number of nights I drown my sorrows in whiskey about this: all of them Writ Keeper  17:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think that if one bears in mind that the Nationals are just the Expos with nicer uniforms, then these outcomes are less surprising. MastCell Talk 20:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well this is the bees knees. Ow - I think I pulled a rib muscle from laughing. Many thanks to all involved for brightening the day. MarnetteD|Talk 20:47, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • 78.2%? I heard it was 67.9? BTW, have you ever tried poisson distributions? I just ran some on the NLDS; they said the Cardinals shouldn't have hit so many home runs and Kershaw shouldn't have given up so many earned runs #StatHead #ITFDB pbp 20:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Statistics can't tell you anything about what will happen in a 5-game series, because the sample size is too small and all that Moneyball stuff breaks down. Sorry about the Dodgers... I can't say I'm a fan, but I like watching Yasiel Puig and Matt Kemp yell at each other in the dugout. MastCell Talk 22:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

A heartfelt thank you! - Takeaway (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'm not entirely clear on why people care what others write about them on their user pages, but you certainly aren't alone in that, and there's policy on your side, and it's clear you two were locked in some kind of Let That Be Your Last Battlefield type thing. It's possible you both have the record for "number of reverts on one page without being blocked by someone".
So what would be great is for you to do your part by ignoring him completely from now on. An unofficial voluntary interaction ban. Unwatchlist his page/talk page. etc. At one time, several years ago, I imagine one of you was right and one of you was wrong about something. Or more likely (based on experience, not anything I know about you two) both partially right and partially wrong. It's a shame that never got fully sorted out by neutral observers. But this far down the road it wouldn't be a productive use of time to revisit that; it's probably time you both forget the other exists. It's a big encyclopedia. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have in the past kept a loose watch on this editor's edits and have uncovered significant amounts of blatant COI and extreme POV which had gone unnoticed by other editors. If no one keeps an eye on this editor, they will only feel encouraged to return to this type of behaviour. When I took them to ANI for yet again posting their rant on their user page, the reaction there was "but he's gone already so what are you moaning about?"; and of course, the ANI petered out due to the subject of the ANI not showing up there at all. It is obvious that this editor wants me off their back in order to pick up their POV. Please read some of my findings on this editor's behaviour posted here, and here. It will at most take you 30 minutes and investing those 30 minutes might prevent a lot of problems that could come, and surely will come if their past behaviour and their persistent attack behaviour is an indication of what can be expected from them, from this editor being unmonitored. I have saved their pet articles in my watchlist. I would gladly ignore this pesky editor but who else will keep an eye on them? They are that problematic.
I am not proud at all of having posted 8 npa warnings on their talk page 2 days ago, but if I hadn't, it would again have gone unnoticed by other editors and admins, and this absurdity would have been a never-ending story. Regards, - Takeaway (talk) 15:12, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have 30 minutes to spend reading up on a problem from several years ago, and which has not recurred. I probably don't have 30 minutes to edit WP in the next week. It is almost always a mistake to assume that you are the *only* person who can keep the barbarians from entering the city. There are lots of other people, and if it is as blatant and extreme as you say, we'll see it. If it isn't, it's possible you've lost perspective.
FYI, the 8 NPA warnings yesterday (and, what, 2-3 dozen reverts over the last few months?) were possibly the least effective way you could have chosen to get an admin's attention. I almost didn't get involved because it was so over the top; who needs the heartburn? The problem was not solved by the edit warring, it was prolonged by the edit warring, and resolved in spite of it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:23, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Their rant has been acknowledged by other editors and also administrators as being a personal attack on me, and as such it is something that I can delete from their user page. Rak-Tai keeps reposting it despite warnings from neutral parties to desist and now I am the one admonished for repeatedly removing that attack, instead of Rak-Tai being admonished for actually posting it time and again. I have in the past asked this editor politely (really politely) to stop posting their attack, writing that if they left their user page as it is now, that would be the end of it for me. - Takeaway (talk) 15:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The reason quoted for deleting my user page seems rather weak as compared to the restrictions about changing another editors user page. I made a reasonable request that Takeaway stop monitoring my edits in exchange for deleting the reference to him, but you have not addressed this. Further, please explain what "salting" means. I did not run across this term in my PhD studies. รัก-ไทย (talk) 03:38, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]