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DYK article Tijuana cross-border terminal, all images uploaded by rnieders deleted.
Hello HJ,
On December 19, all the images I uploaded for the article Tijuana Cross-border Terminal were deleted for the following reason "Deleted: I think that the entire discussion below misses an important point -- we do not know who User:Rnieders actually is. These have had enough public exposure so that it is clear to me that they require OTRS licenses... (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:50, 19 December 2014 (UTC)"
The Commons deletion request was made by Ellin Beltz on December 1. The images went through a DYK review process from September 18 to November 5. Whatever explanation I gave to Ellin Beltz, she refused to accept. I asked her several times and supplied a link to read the Wall Street Journal article by Millman, Joel (August 1, 2001). "San Diego's Gateway to the World May Be Tijuana" which featured the project and my role in it and would have answered a lot of her questions. The deletion discussion was reviewed by Ww2censor who did not support the request for deletion. On December 19, Ellin Beltz then contacted an administrator and this is the request she made:
"Hi Jim: This nomination has been going on a long time. I really don't care if you bust my chops and keep all of them, or see what I do in the images and delete them; but could you make a decision on this just so we can close this old page? Thank you so much for all your help! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:56, 19 December 2014 (UTC)"
They were deleted that day by (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:50, 19 December 2014 (UTC). I contacted him and he stated that I missed the point of the whole discussion, that the real issue was not who Ralph Nieders is, but who Rnieders is as many people upload images using other people's name. But I was a bit disturbed by Ellin Beltz comment of "see what I do in the images and delete them" if Jameslwoodward did not delete them. I had offered Ellin Beltz that I would show all the documents I have to Keizers who was the editor who created the article page and lives near San Diego, but that I would not be back in San Diego until December 26, she executed the deletion on December 19 as noted above. I have prepared an OTRS request to have my images undeleted but have not submitted it yet. I explained that the images and article went through a DYK review process and no comments were made on the images. I tried to explain to Ellin Beltz that the images were created by me more than 20 years ago and that my current computer could not open the old files. I scanned my line drawings which were in Spanish and then added English text. She failed to understand that I worked on this project at my own expense for 18 years and that the technology of printers, computers and software changed dramatically during that time. When I started, images were still being done by airbrush and pencil, printers were dot matrix, color and jet printers were price prohibitive.
The images are central in showing the development and evolution of the Tijuana cross-border terminal as they show the difference between the Mexican government's and San Diego's proposals. I also have added a large number of newspaper references so that the reader can understand the underlying politics that affected negotiations and made a 3 year project into a 25 year odyssey. With your background as both an administrator and OTRS reviewer, perhaps you could offer some basic advice as to how I should submit the request to OTRS as they have a 20+ day backlog and I have made many mistakes in uploading these images and now the Tijuana cross-border terminal article makes references to images that do not exist. I also would like to point out that I DID NOT benefit from disclosing the information I submitted to the Wikipedia article which many wished would be forgotten e.g. Mexico's demand that San Diego close down its international airport before they would consider the Twinports concept. That did not gain me any points with the Mexican government nor disclosing the 3 page memo I wrote to the Mexican SCT and the U.S. State Department reference 39, Lindquist, Diane (July 23, 2002). "Otay airport terminal plan called 'dead' Consultant: Mexico not cooperative, wants U.S. investors to fund it all". I would appreciate being able to get some direction. Respectfully Ralph Nieders/Rnieders Rnieders (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2014 (UTC).
- @Rnieders: Could you explain a little more concisely how I can be of assistance? I'm an admin here and at Commons and an OTRS agent, so I could certainly help with reviewing OTRS tickets and image permissions and I can view or restore deleted files if you could provide me with links or ticket numbers or ... something. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding. The images deleted were part of a Wikipedia article Tijuana Cross-border Terminal and can be access on commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Rnieders. On December 1, Ellin Beltz made a commons deletion request for the follow reason, "Files uploaded by Rnieders (talk · contribs)[edit] Technical images, photos and schema for a Tijuana airport development plan. No indication that uploader holds copyright to any of these images, probable COM:COPYVIO:
- File:ASA 1991 Tijuana airport development plan with second runway.jpg
- File:ASA 1992 Tijuana airport development plan.jpg
- File:Valenzuela-Nieders Tijuana-San Diego phased airport development 1992.jpg
- File:Valenzuela-Nieders cross-border airport concept.jpg
- File:Tijuana phased cross-border airport development 1992.jpg
- File:Tijuana cross-border promotional cover Nieders 2001.jpg
- File:Tijuana cross-border terminal modular design concepts Nieders 2002.jpg
- File:Tijuana cross-border promotional cover 2001.jpg
- File:GAP Tijuana airport phased master plan 2000-2015.jpg
- File:Casey Development-Nieders Tijuana cross-border terminal proposal 1996a.jpg
- File:Aero Charter-Nieders Tijuana cross-border terminal counterproposal 1991b.jpg
- File:ASA Tijuanal airport development plan 1992.jpg
- File:San Diego TwinPorts airport proposal 1991L.jpg
- File:Aero Charter-Nieders Tijuana cross-border terminal concept 1991a.jpg
- File:SANDAG San Diego-Tijuana bi-national airport proposal 1990.jpg
- File:ASA Tijuana airport development plan 1991.jpg
- File:Mexicana de Aviacion Tijuana cross-border terminal proposal 1990.jpg
- I attempted to answer her concerns, but nothing I said made any difference. Another editor, Ww2censor on December 2 reviewed the discussion between Ellin Beltz and myself and did not support the Commons request for deletion. She then began to make reference to a discussion I had with Stefan2 from Sweden in August when I first wrote part of the Tijuana article and uploaded images incorrectly under fair use. She did not want to believe that the images discussed with Stefan2 were not the same as the images in this discussion and then ended her discussion with this "In fact based on the ever-changing series of statements of where these images came from, I'm asking all other editors to consider COM:PRP here. Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:34, 3 December 2014 (UTC)" I offered to have all my documents reviewed by User Keizers who is the editor of the Tijuana Cross-border terminal and lives near San Diego but that I would not be back in San Diego until December 26, she never replied. On December 19, Ellin Beltz contacted Jameslwoodward and made the following request, “Hi Jim: This nomination has been going on a long time. I really don't care if you bust my chops and keep all of them, or see what I do in the images and delete them; but could you make a decision on this just so we can close this old page? Thank you so much for all your help! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:56, 19 December 2014 (UTC)”
- Jameslwoodward complied and all the images were deleted. I then contacted Jameslwoodward and he stated that I missed the point of the whole discussion, that there was no question as to who Ralph Nieders is, the question is who Rnieders is. To establish that Ralph Nieders and Rnieders are the same, he said that this must go through OTRS. He also stated that he doubted all the images could be restored due to COM:ADVERT. I have no problem having my name removed from the image files, but I am NOT using Wikipedia for self-promotion. I created the project, the design and location. This article has NOT benefited me. As mentioned previously, neither the Mexican government nor GAP wanted the history behind the cross-border terminal told and why it took 25 years to build. I no longer consult in Mexico and no one mentioned this conflict during the DYK review process. I have prepared a detailed request to send via email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org detailing everything that has taken place. That email has NOT been sent. The Tijuana Cross-border terminal article was nominated September 18 and reviewed until November 5 for DYK, no one made a single comment on the images or any other policy conflicts. These images are my property, my copyright, meaning Ralph Nieders/Rnieders. I submitted a request to OTRS in early December to undelete one image that Ellin Beltz had already deleted in November, i.e. File:Mexicana de Aviacion Tijuana cross-border terminal proposal 1990.jpg. To date, I have not received a reply from OTRS, no email, no ticket number from OTRS and it has been over 20 days. Now that all the images have been deleted from the Wikipedia article, I want to make sure I correctly make the OTRS request because without the images, the Wikipedia article makes no sense. I am a complete novice to the Wikipedia protocols, I do not understand Ellin Beltz conduct, she made assumptions without any supporting facts, e.g. my discussions with Stefan2 and Keizers, she refused to look at all the discussions and images involved. If all of this is a misunderstanding, I can accept that. From my User talk page(Rnieders), it seems you looked at this article on November 5, 2014 and that is why I contacted you. There are enough newspaper articles with my name to show who and what I did, I still have the hard copies of my reports with the images, emails all the way into the land negotiations for the current building site and the fact that the ASA cross-border terminal and my proposal were two miles apart. That is why the images a central. You understand the Wikipedia process, I do not, I was vetted by the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. State Department, the San Diego Union-Tribune, the San Diego Reader, etc., I do not know what more I can offer if I cannot speak or meet with anyone. Respectfully Ralph Nieders Rnieders (talk) 23:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Rnieders: Ah, okay, I'm following you now. Could you forward me the email (I'm hjmitchell at ymail dot com) you sent to OTRS. Then I can run a search and fish your email out of the OTRS queue and let you know whether it contains the information we need. If it does, I'll undelete the files or have a chat with the deleting admin on Commons. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:14, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- Jameslwoodward complied and all the images were deleted. I then contacted Jameslwoodward and he stated that I missed the point of the whole discussion, that there was no question as to who Ralph Nieders is, the question is who Rnieders is. To establish that Ralph Nieders and Rnieders are the same, he said that this must go through OTRS. He also stated that he doubted all the images could be restored due to COM:ADVERT. I have no problem having my name removed from the image files, but I am NOT using Wikipedia for self-promotion. I created the project, the design and location. This article has NOT benefited me. As mentioned previously, neither the Mexican government nor GAP wanted the history behind the cross-border terminal told and why it took 25 years to build. I no longer consult in Mexico and no one mentioned this conflict during the DYK review process. I have prepared a detailed request to send via email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org detailing everything that has taken place. That email has NOT been sent. The Tijuana Cross-border terminal article was nominated September 18 and reviewed until November 5 for DYK, no one made a single comment on the images or any other policy conflicts. These images are my property, my copyright, meaning Ralph Nieders/Rnieders. I submitted a request to OTRS in early December to undelete one image that Ellin Beltz had already deleted in November, i.e. File:Mexicana de Aviacion Tijuana cross-border terminal proposal 1990.jpg. To date, I have not received a reply from OTRS, no email, no ticket number from OTRS and it has been over 20 days. Now that all the images have been deleted from the Wikipedia article, I want to make sure I correctly make the OTRS request because without the images, the Wikipedia article makes no sense. I am a complete novice to the Wikipedia protocols, I do not understand Ellin Beltz conduct, she made assumptions without any supporting facts, e.g. my discussions with Stefan2 and Keizers, she refused to look at all the discussions and images involved. If all of this is a misunderstanding, I can accept that. From my User talk page(Rnieders), it seems you looked at this article on November 5, 2014 and that is why I contacted you. There are enough newspaper articles with my name to show who and what I did, I still have the hard copies of my reports with the images, emails all the way into the land negotiations for the current building site and the fact that the ASA cross-border terminal and my proposal were two miles apart. That is why the images a central. You understand the Wikipedia process, I do not, I was vetted by the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. State Department, the San Diego Union-Tribune, the San Diego Reader, etc., I do not know what more I can offer if I cannot speak or meet with anyone. Respectfully Ralph Nieders Rnieders (talk) 23:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hello HJ, I have sent you an email but was not able to access the OTRS request as I used my nephews computer in South Carolina. When I sent the OTRS permissions-commons request, it went through his Windows Live-mail account. I have sent specific information in my email to you. I will contact him to send me the email so I can forward it to you. I apologize for the delays. Respectfully Rnieders (talk) 15:44, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hello HJ, the December 5 email to OTRS permissions-commons requesting the undeletion of File:Mexicana de Aviavion Tijunana Cross-border Terminal proposal 1990.jpg was still in my nephew's outgoing box, it was never sent. This means I have to start the process for all the images that have been deleted. Should I use the OTRS copyright permission template and email each individual image to them and how will that resolve the deletion issues? I do not want to repeat mistakes, thank you Rnieders (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Rnieders: I just replied by email, but send the email to OTRS, cc me, and I'll let you know where we go from there. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hello HJ, the December 5 email to OTRS permissions-commons requesting the undeletion of File:Mexicana de Aviavion Tijunana Cross-border Terminal proposal 1990.jpg was still in my nephew's outgoing box, it was never sent. This means I have to start the process for all the images that have been deleted. Should I use the OTRS copyright permission template and email each individual image to them and how will that resolve the deletion issues? I do not want to repeat mistakes, thank you Rnieders (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Spread_Co Article
- We are Anonymous*
This company is controversial in the UK. They are using their page as an advertising site and removing damaging but true content. We are asking for an edit to restore a neutral POV not their PR guy's POV.
Anons made an edit linking to legit secondary sources. There was a UK court judgement in which damaging comments were made against Spread Co. All the d0x was summarized in a motion in the British Parliament. Records like Parliament can be primary sources and therefore verb0ten original research but they can also be secondary sources.
We ask you to permanently lock the page and revert for now to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spread_Co&oldid=639139704 which is an edit made by a genuine Wikipedia editor called UnbutteredParsnip.
We also ask you to lock out the IP address 83.244.154.99 and the user Csalas11 from editing the page as they are company employees.
We accept this is a major undertaking. Our own proposed solution is not perfect and we cannot pretend to be POV neutral but it is better than cruel PR lies. People invest their whole life savings in firms like this and Spread Co should not use wikipedia to hide information about financial risks from the people.
Do not let yourself be used by a greedy corporation.
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We are Legion
We do not Forgive
We do not Forget
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Rcsprinter123 RfA
Hi. No big deal, but was there any particular reason that you listed your "moral support only" as a full-fledged "support" vote so it gets counted in the running tally? It seems like "moral support only" would be better off in the "Neutral" section, or, if left in the "Support" section, was unnumbered. BMK (talk) 09:35, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Barring something extraordinary happening, it's unlikely to make a blind bit of difference to the end result, so it doesn't really matter where it goes. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:45, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Some Quality Streets for you!
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Some Quality Streets for you! |
| Thanks for supporting me at my RfA. It didn't succeed this time, but I'll keep editing as much as I can. Rcsprinter123 (discuss) @ 12:24, 30 December 2014 (UTC) |
Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 08:36, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Done for a year. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 08:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- And done indefinitely. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy New Year
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Good 2015 to you and yours!
- 'appy new year mate! Irondome (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- And to you, my friend! And of course (to recycle a section!) to MichaelQSchmidt. Her's to a happy and productive 2015! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:19, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Happy New Year
Nice to see another Brit up and about. Thought you would on the single malt by now... :-) Ronhjones (Talk) 01:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Ron! I though I'd see what was going on; I'm drinking, though not single malt at the moment. I'll probably turn he computer of when I start to feel the effects! And thanks @Davey2010:! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:22, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Happy New Year HJ Mitchell!
HJ Mitchell,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Happy New Year HJ Mitchell!
HJ Mitchell,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica1000 09:09, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Dear HJ Mitchell,
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! A new year has come! How times flies! 2015 will be a new year, and it is also a chance for you to start afresh! Thank you for your contributions!
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Hi Harry
- hope you've had a couple of relaxing days. I would have except I got concertina'd in a multi car pile up on the northbound fast lane of the Bangkok - Udon highway yesterday. Mine was the only car that could still be driven. Oh well, it all adds to the excitement of the season so here's ‘’all the best’’ to you for 2015 and I hope you’ll continue to be around on Wikipedia for a long time to come. Cheers, Chris. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Chris, and to you! What have I told you about editing and driving? ;) Hope you're okay anyway. Any idea when you're next back in Blighty? Happy new year to @Northamerica1000 and Nahnah4: as well! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:19, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions!
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- Thanks. And to you. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:11, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Inappropriate block
User:Tutelary commented at Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations that blocking User:Grewia was an inappropriate block, and I have to agree. While the behavior is somewhat questionable, it's not really harmful and with things like blocks, sometimes new users deserve the benefit of the doubt. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 00:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- Normally yes... but new users do not fuck around with SPIs that do not involve them. New users don't know what an SPI is until they're named in one, or until they've edited for a little while. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- How are they supposed to know they were named in one if they weren't notified? That's explicitly what the user was doing. Notifying someone of an SPI against them is not against any policy or guideline. Tutelary (talk) 00:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- You do realize that the user doing the notifying was never named in the SPI, right? That's the issue here; that they came out of nowhere to disrupt the SPI (and I am absolutely not complaining about the notification - I'm talking about their rubbish inside the SPI itself). Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- They're not required to be. There's a suitable place for those comments, and that place is 'Comments by other users'. You are allowed to participate in SPIs that don't involve you. It's just uncommon enough for an admin to have a problem about it even though it's allowed. Tutelary (talk) 00:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- How are they supposed to know they were named in one if they weren't notified? That's explicitly what the user was doing. Notifying someone of an SPI against them is not against any policy or guideline. Tutelary (talk) 00:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- As I pointed out here, Tutelary has a history of accusing me of making inappropriate blocks and yet none of those blocks have been overturned, I've never been censured for a bad block, and several of them have been upheld by neutral admin on appeal. In this specific case, I wouldn't expect a brand new editor to know that SPI exists, much less to be commenting on investigations and notifying editors that they have nothing to do with. I admire your faith, but their contributions taken as a whole clearly indicate that they are a troll, that they have no interest in contributing to the encyclopaedia, and that they are not new, so I'm afraid I stand by the block, and I notice that in addition to Luke, two other admins have endorsed my action. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:02, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- I wouldn't necessarily cite my support as being anywhere near as valuable as that of mostly uninvolved admins though, simply because I'm so heavily involved. I don't really see the point in spending ages discussing whether or not an account that never contributed to mainspace was blocked fairly or not. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 01:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- Such is the life of an admin, Luke! Now you know why nobody wants to do the job! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:14, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Regarding above page, I warned twice that author (vandalism warning 1 & 2) to his talk page. But he intentionally deleted those warnings and undid that page thrice in same day. Author Name : TheRedPenOfDoom pradipgarala (talk) 07:02, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
My page protection was mistyped slightly
Hello HJ Mitchell; My full protection request for "Alexia" was mistyped this morning, and it pointed to the disambiguation page rather than the Alexia (condition) page. My concern was to try to make as clear a statement of the matter in the subject summary that I overlooked adding the disambiguation parameter in the request. The protection for the "condition" version is still needed for one week only to avoiding edit reverts and avoid the fork of the articles with editors losing time on the "old" fork which has been replaced by the new "Dyslexia" article version discussed as described in the protection request summary. If you prefer, then I'll re-type the whole request and resubmit through regular channels since you were correct to decline the protection request for the disambiguation page for "Alexia" which needs no protection, only the Alexia (condition) article needs the full protection for the one week. FelixRosch (TALK) 18:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)