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Quicktalk

1st: A QuickTalk option. If enabled in the preferences, when you click "talk" next to the name of a user, a popup window will appear to make it easier to send a message. This would be good because it would motivate more dialogs and more feedbacks.also more help Tetra quark (don't be shy) 22:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I support this idea, as an opt-in. --NaBUru38 (talk) 15:40, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Linking the Talk Pages across languages by Wikidata.

Wikidata is used to link en:George Washington to fr:George Washington, should the same list of languages generated by Wikidata for en:George Washington also be there for en:Talk:George Washington to enable a single click to get to fr:Discussion:George Washington? I'm sure someone else has come up with this idea before, so this is half a suggestion, half a "I wonder why it isn't" :)Naraht (talk) 16:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Linking different language articles makes sense, since this is a benefit for our readers and we can be sure that both articles will have the same basic content, in different languages. However, since each language operates mostly independently, each language will be discussing completely different issues on the talk pages, so a direct language link is probably of relatively low value. Also, it is of no value at all for readers, who generally don't look at talk pages. There's always the slightly longer version of article -> article -> talk. Perhaps this could make sense as a user preference, though? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 01:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Great idea for a partnership opportunity with Wikipedia

Hi everyone

Let me start off by saying that Wikipedia is awesome! I have a great idea for a partnership with Wikipedia. Any input would be fantastic!

I would love to join forces with Wikipedia to provide readers of such articles as books, TV shows, music, or bands with the opportunity to purchase whatever they are looking at at a given time, I would like to provide my links in tables for things like TV seasons of a specific show, episodes of specific TV shows or other related things. my idea is to edit an table in an article such as the ones that already exist in order to provide the reader the link in a way that they are not bombarded with a million links everywhere they look.

I do understand your need to ensure that the reader is not spammed with links and as a reader I very much appreciate that. I would however find it helpful to be provided a link that would further enhance my reading without taking me out of the experience.

It is my understanding that Wikipedia is a non profit organizeation, but I would be more then happy to donate a portion of whatever is earned during the time my links are on a page. Would anyone be open to this enhancment on Wikipedia?

Any feedback would be very much appreciated.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sledge106 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate comment removed Oiyarbepsy (talk) 23:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Andy (whose username is apt) is right to be blunt with you, though maybe not so blunt. You're proposing slathering Wikipedia with for-profit advertisements, which you alone apparently stand to profit from since you generously offered to donate some of your profits back to the Foundation. Consider that Wikipedia is neutral as a core founding principle. If Wikipedia allows an organization (any organization) to pay money to display their advertisement on this website, then Wikipedia can be coerced to rewrite content to suit the advertiser's whim, thus making Wikipedia non-neutral. Alternatively, if Wikipedia accepts some of the profit from your advertising venture, what's to stop some advertiser approaching you and offering you much more money if you demand to have certain Wikipedia content altered, or else lose out on the advertising revenue? In a nutshell, advertising allows for money and power to directly influence content, even with the best intentions, and this is why allowing advertising here is always going to be a terrible idea. I hope you understand.
If you are interested in reading further on this subject, the essay Funding Wikipedia through advertisements may be enlightening to you. But trust, my friend, that your idea is incompatible with our goals and will never be implemented here. Best wishes. Ivanvector (talk) 22:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, most books link to ISBN numbers and most films to Imdb pages, which offer the additional info readers are looking for, as well as purchase options. But we won't do it here. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 23:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Are Departing Editors Ever Surveyed??

I understand that one of the goals of wikipedia is to encourage people to contribute as editors. So it seems that it would be a good practice to obsessionally survey a sample of ex-editors regarding reasons they have not continued editing.

I'd suggest that every 6 months or so, a survey (which may change as we begin to learn more) be sent out to people who created an account with an email address who have not made an edit in the last 60 days but made more than 5 edits after creating their account, or within the last year, including people in each subgroups such as (1) users who were active for less than on month, (2) users who were active over one month but less than three months, and (3) users who were active over three months but less than a year.

It would not be necessary to email everyone fitting these categories, just a large enough sample to get 100-200 respondents in each subgroup.

Types of questions of interest to be explored using a likert scale: did they leave because it was too confusing, or because they had accomplished their goals, they were exhausted, they were frustrated by having their edits reverted, they found editing policies were inconsistent or not followed. And there should be an open ended text field for them to give their own reasons, which may shape future questions.

The results could be made available (minus the email addresses) for analysis by anyone interested and might help inform future policy and technical goals. –GodBlessYou2 (talk) 21:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's been done. Most of the "departed" editors said that they considered themselves to still be active editors, only they've been busy with real-world stuff or had forgotten to login recently.
Those that said they had stopped editing generally said that they quit because people yelled at them for honest mistakes (we were all new once, and the learning cure here is steep) or because everything they added was reverted or deleted. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Are the results available? And is there any discussion or plan for periodic efforts to repeat such surveys and to consider ways to address the concerns? How might I get involved? --GodBlessYou2 (talk) 15:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the final report on that survey hasn't been published; a brief and early (read: probably wrong in some respects) summary can be read at strategy:Former Contributors Survey Results. I asked around, and here's what I learned: the survey was run in late 2009 or early 2010, for users who had edited the English Wikipedia at least once during 2009 but had not edited for a while, and who had never made more than 99 logged-in edits. About a third of the people surveyed directly said that they had never left, many said that they left for reasons unrelated to Wikipedia (e.g., people who stopped editing because a new job or family situation left them with no time for Wikipedia). Significantly more than half said that they were likely to edit again someday.
It appears that it was possible on this survey to simultaneously give the reasons why you left, and also say that you hadn't left at all.
Significantly more than half of the surveyed editors reported unpleasant experiences with other editors, like being reverted by other editors or receiving warnings from other editors. Significantly less than half of them would recommend editing Wikipedia to any of their friends. Of the people who left for some reason other than personal issues, and who had made more than 10 edits, most of them said that negative interactions with community members were a (or sometimes the only) reason for their departure. The (many more) people who had only made two or three edits were more likely to say that it was too confusing or complicated, although they, too, said that they had significant problems with actions by other community members.
AFAICT, there are no current plans to repeat this survey. Whether and how to change would be up to the community here. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:58, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cite this page

Would it be feasible to have at the bottom of each page a box similar to a navbox that had the full citation for the page it was used on in different formats, ALA, MLA, etc.? And would the community support such a change?

There are many possibilities for implementation:

A template like {{reflist}} that we put at the the bottom of each page under external links with its own section

A mediawiki feature that is automatically put in every page

We might have to restrict the usage, however, because not all pages are of citable quality, and there might be a backlash by academics if more people cite badly written pages on their college reports.

Should it be only for FAs? FAs + GAs? The aforementioned plus A or B class?

Or should it not use the Wikiproject quality system and use some other bar for entry such as a peer review?

The reason I am proposing this is to try to raise awareness of the great articles we have here on-wiki, that anywhere else would be a reliable source if not for the stigma surrounding Wikipedia. Hopefully this initiative will help remove this stigma and make at least some of Wikipedia a reliable, citable source.

The first phase of this proposal is simply discussion-What articles you want it to be restricted to, how it will be implemented, whether you support the general idea of posting cite information or not, etc. When a general consensus arrives at what different models the community would most like it to use, I will put together 1 or several different proposals and create a formal RfC on VPR.

Thank you and I hope to see your input on the idea. KonveyorBelt 01:12, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion (citing)

Well, Jimbo himself has said that people shouldn't be citing Wikipedia. Yes, we have some great articles, but the role of Wikipedia is to provide the overview and point to where the best sources are. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:36, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Are you (Konveyor Belt) aware that there is already a "Cite this page" link, under "Tools" in the left-hand margin of each article, that leads to a page giving full citations in various formats? Deor (talk) 11:24, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Counter

In my opinion, the Wikipedia software should attach a counter to both registered and non-registered editors that denotes whether all of the editor's edits should be checked. The counter starts at 0. All the editor's edits will be checked until the counter reaches 100. It reaches 100 after a hundred constructive edits were made with no clearly problematic edits in-between. If the editor ever makes a clearly problematic edit, the counter is reset to 0. There are external links to "Common Language in Marketing Project" here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and several more inline that have not been reverted for almost 3 months. They were added on 7 November 2014 by User:Karenmharvey who on her User page writes "Karen M Scheller on behalf of the Common Language Project at MASB." Clearly WP:PROMO/WP:SELFPROMOTE/WP:COI (and possibly WP:PE). I did not revert her edits, and I will not report them - mention them here only as an example of something that could've been prevented with a simple counter. Most vandalism could also be prevented with such a counter. Who's going to check all those edits? Well, first of all, if almost all vandalism (~8% of all edits?) is being prevented, that saves us a lot of time. It takes effort to create an encyclopedia. Just like editors check WP:PC edits, editors can check the edits of editors whose counters have not yet reached 100. The difference would be that WP:PC edits do not immediately go live. (related) --82.136.210.153 (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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