User talk:Mandarax

Yes, another Breaking Bad thread

This note is for Bgwhite, but I didn't want to clutter up your talk page with yet more about Breaking Bad, so I'm doing it here. If you get tired of me talking about the show, let me know. I wouldn't want you to get as sick of hearing about it as a certain person we know is of hearing about Dr. Who.

I decided to wait a bit before reporting on Better Call Saul. Before it premiered, I tried to keep my expectations low while still having high hopes. It was difficult to keep those expectations low when I read in the article that:

• Before any episodes had aired, it had already been renewed for a second season.
• It had a 100% Rotten Tomatoes score.
• A critic declared the first few episodes to be better than Breaking Bad.

Let me start by emphatically stating that Better Call Saul is absolutely, definitely, unequivocally not better than Breaking Bad. This should not really be seen as a reflection on BCS. After all, at least one person has declared BB to be "the greatest work of entertainment ever produced". I found myself somewhat disappointed by the first episode. In contrast, mere moments into the BB pilot, I knew it was going to be something spectacularly special. Four of this season's ten episodes of BCS have aired so far. I do like the show, and it's wonderful to see new episodes with a beloved character. (Could there be even more than one returning character? No spoiler here.)

My prediction was slightly off. I thought the BCS premiere would be immediately following the end of the BB marathon. What actually happened was BCS premiered on Sunday, then the final episodes of the marathon aired on Monday, followed by an encore of the premiere and then the second episode.

As I watched the marathon, I kept thinking that the TV academy should have created a special cinematography category for BB.

I've gotten the CD of music from Breaking Bad. There's some great stuff on it, but it only scratches the surface of songs featured on the first two seasons. One song from the CD, "Out of Time Man", sounds just like another song (not featured on BB), from thirty years earlier. Judge for yourself:

• Mick Harvey's "Out of Time Man" (2007)
• Iggy Pop's "The Passenger" (1977)

Oh, a while ago, I heard a song ("If I Had a Heart") that I really liked, so I got the album. Then, a coupla days ago, I checked the artist's article and discovered that the song had been featured on BB! Maybe I subconsciously realized this and that's why the song appealed to me so much when I heard it, but I was not consciously aware that I'd ever heard it before. I frequently heard songs on the show that I liked, so I would sometimes Shazam them, but I somehow missed this one. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I just watched that clip I linked to a few more times, and I think I know how I "somehow missed this one". The music so exquisitely fits in with the scene that I may have assumed it was specifically composed for the show rather than being a pre-existing song. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:59, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I've only seen the first episode. My parents forgot that it was on Monday, so they didn't record the next two. Guess we will watch when it comes on Netflix. Only time I've ever bought TV episodes was for BB. Lovely Comcast is slowing down Amazon in my area, so buying is not an option right now. Only show that I'm really looking for is Game of Thrones, season 5 starts in April. The one thing I missed about earlier episodes of BB that was lost after the first season was the humor. It was nice seeing humor in BCS.

I'm not really into music. It's very distracting to me. I have trouble concentrating on more than one thing at a time, so music is very rarely on.

I recently watched the movie Samsura. I was in awe. There are no words in the movie, just amazing photography and music. For a movie with no words, it sure does make you think. I didn't know what the word Saṃsāra meant, but after finding out, it was very appropriate. Here's the trailer. It's the best film I've seen since watching Nebraska. I can't wait to watch the filmmaker's previous film, Bakara. Bgwhite (talk) 01:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Jesse's living room

Maybe your parents saw that it premiered on Sunday and thought that was its regular night. (Which would be logical programming since that was BB night.) So, you saw the first episode, and you know the surprise at the very end; someone I sure thought I'd never see again. I think the second episode was the most BB-ish one so far. I've never seen Game of Thrones, but I've heard good things about it. I've got a long list of movies I want to see, and Nebraska is at the top. Never heard of Samsara.

BTW, for anybody who hasn't seen the relevant Breaking Bad episodes, here's some background on that clip I linked to: Jesse has recently killed the sweetest, most gentle meth cook you could possibly imagine, and he does whatever he can to try to blot it out of his mind, including turning his home into something which reminds me of Hieronymus Bosch's Hell. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 03:09, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Episode five of BCS was good. I'm glad you've seen the first episode, so I can mention Mike without it being a major spoiler. While it's interesting to see the early shenanigans of Jimmy/Saul, I think the most fascinating thing is seeing the evolution of Mike from a parking lot attendant into what we know him as in BB (as well as his earlier evolution from police officer to parking lot attendant). Did you see the premiere of Vince Gilligan's new CBS show Battle Creek? It didn't "grab" me, and I actually didn't pay much attention to it. Maybe it was great while I wasn't paying sufficient attention, and I'll give it another chance, but at this point I don't think it's a show which I'll continue to watch. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:17, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Church.

The point was that the person doing the rew. was rewriting my text into something else that it was meant to be. I didn't liked it. So I put in those citations so he could read for himself what was all about. Still -I- am not happy if someone starts rewriting text they didn't understand, and thinks this or that is not worth mentionin and stuff like that. Because they have no idea about art. I dislike this kind of rews, and I really think that this is not the point of the DYK. And one is still around. Hafspajen (talk) 21:25, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

• Was this sentence that made me stop: Church was able to envisage the American natural environment as manifestly divine, described representative of the importance of religion in American culture.

This is plain bullshit. Hafspajen (talk) 21:39, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

He also just simply remove parts, that were plainly in in the references for no reson at all. He took this sentence and rewrote it: The canvas is painted in the Romantic style and captures the aesthetic principles of the sublime and the picturesque. and removed pituresque, for no reason at all.

The canvas is painted in the Romantic style and captures the aesthetic principles of the sublime.

So I put in the part of long ref where this was.

This part s/he removed entirely: Emotions like awe – especially that which is experienced in confronting the sublimity of untamed nature and its picturesque qualities – were now entirely new aesthetic categories, and very different from art styles of the same era – the unemotional Realism[12][13] and of the calm, balanced Classicism[14] – as a source of aesthetic experience and replaced it with the above plain bullshit, calling it *Dyk fixes*. What kind of = dyk fixing is this??

Turbulent DYK -times - by Thomas Birch

• What? WHY in the name of the *** did he remowe it? Is this a way of doing DYK chopping and rewriting articles, like I wouldn't know what I was writing about in the article? Than came the other one messing about the refs... Hafspajen (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

• None of this really sounds like it's specifically DYK-related to me. Even though the user said it was "dyk fixing" in the edit summaries, as far as I can tell, the changes had absolutely nothing to do with fixing it for DYK. It's the kind of stuff that can happen anywhere (not just DYK) on Wikipedia, the encyclopedia anybody can edit, even if they don't know what they're doing; it just happened to be erroneously attributed to DYK fixing. As with anywhere else here, if anybody makes edits which you feel are not improvements, you should revert or otherwise change to how you think it would be better. If they insist on pushing through their changes, it could be taken to the talk page or elsewhere if necessary. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:07, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

• Ha. And what about if they revert my additions to their talks? Hafspajen (talk) 20:48, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

• That's frustrating, because it seems to be implying "I don't care what you have to say", but they're allowed to do it. Now, if they remove your posts from any other talk page, such as article talk pages, that's disruptive and not allowed, and they should be reverted and issued a warning. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:06, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

• Well, go nominate it. But if somebody starts the same game again Withdraw. You may rework long citations. Go With Gods Blessing. Hafspajen (talk) 21:27, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

• Okay, I'll do it within the next few days. As for reworking those long footnotes, would it be okay to simply remove them entirely just until the DYK is complete? Then I'd add them back afterwards. I want this to go as smoothly as possible, and I don't want those footnotes to become an issue with the nomination again. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:59, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure, until people really DO READ the sources, it doesn't have to be there. Hafspajen (talk) 22:12, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I wouldn't remove actual sources used as citations for material in the article. The footnotes I'm talking about are supplementary background material. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:31, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

• Template:Did you know nominations/Church. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:15, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Hm, decidedly Phil has a lot of DYKs too - but no DYK 25... Hafspajen (talk) 22:25, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

I added the sagacious one to WP:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. Someone (maybe me, maybe you, maybe someone else) should be issuing the 25 medal shortly. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, just did it, issuing the sagacious 25 medal. But I wouldn't know how to make the green tick on list... Hafspajen (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the medal. (I would've gotten around to it eventually, but I'm kind of in slow motion these days.) I took care of the tick. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 04:05, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 19:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, shall I ask for a sockpuppet investigation? Hafspajen (talk) 06:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Probably not a bad idea. (I've never done one, so I wouldn't be of any help.) Too bad UAA is backed up, so my report hasn't been acted on yet, but at least all of their edits have been reverted and they're not making any more. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:07, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

I noticed that both users think you're male. Certainly not conclusive evidence, especially in this male-centric place where everybody thinks everybody is male, but still.... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 17:30, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, noticed, but I never said anything. I don't discuss gender. I said online androgynous, have useerbox too. I am tired of these gender discussions on Wiki. Hafspajen (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Dropping of some newly created articles, if you feel like nominating any: here and here, possibly this too. Hafspajen (talk) 17:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

This is the one that is created 9 March, most urgent. If Hafspajen (talk) 19:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I haven't been around here for about eight or nine days, so hopefully you or someone else already nominated them, because if they haven't been nominated yet, they're no longer eligible (unless they've been further expanded or good-article-ized). The last three articles which I nominated for you were approved very easily, so there's no longer any reason for you to fear DYK. The paintings and whatnot that you write about deserve to be featured on the Main Page, and you should nominate them yourself. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

• No, nobody nominated them. In my opinion they passed so easily because you are well known at DYK, and you are a trusted editor over there. Hafspajen (talk) 03:03, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

• Oh, that's too bad. I disagree with your theory. They passed easily because the articles were good, and all of the DYK criteria were met. I don't know how well-known or trusted I am, but that obviously shouldn't be a factor in DYK approval. I still think you should nominate your own articles; maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised by easy approvals. BTW, thanks for agreeing to let me renominate the Church article. It looked like you would definitely be opposed, so I was pleasantly surprised when you said to go ahead with it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:27, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Would feel more secure if you would nominate them. Hafspajen (talk) 00:28, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Luarel Run (Huntington Creek)

Hi, I don't know if this makes a difference, but the article name is misspelled in the template title. Best, Yoninah (talk) 09:20, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

A misspelling is fine as long as the template handles it correctly, which is the case here. What often happens is someone moves the page to the "correct" title without making the corresponding changes to the template, and then there would be a problem. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:20, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for La Nymphe surprise

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 01:06, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations, Hafspajen! It got over 6000 hits. I added it to the DYK Statistics page. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Cute girls are cute girls. And she is CUTE Hafspajen (talk) 21:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Allegory of Fortune

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

I figured that this one, with its more provocative hook, would get more hits. And it did: over 7,000. Yoninah added it to the Stats page. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK

Hi, Template:Did you know nominations/William F. Mullen III is an error-formatted DYK nomination, while the discussion is taking place at Template:Did you know nominations/William F. Mullen, III. I just moved the page in question to William F. Mullen III. Would you mind tidying up this mess? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:02, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 00:32, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Another DYK question

Could you explain to me why the line right above the edit box, that says "You may notify the nominator of problems with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}}" no longer includes the article title in question? It's a little tedious to have to type it in myself when I put this on the nominator's talk page. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't know why. It was changed in this edit, so maybe you can ask the Person who did it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for tracking that down! Yoninah (talk) 01:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

All's well that ends well. Yoninah (talk) 10:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Good! Thanks for prodding the user to restore it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Did you know ...

... that while editing Wikipedia, Mandarax changes his clothes frequently as they become covered in excrement?

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I hope this little April Fools' DYK from last week achieved its goal of amusing/baffling/startling you. Nobody commented on it; maybe people didn't click on the link, and were embarrassed, thinking it was real. Well, like all DYKs, it was "real"; just not in the way it attempts to fool you into thinking it was. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:59, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, Mandarax. You have new messages at Hafspajen's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

DYK for Niagara Falls, from the American Side

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 16:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I've added this one to the Stats page. All three recent nominations made it there: first 6000, then 7000, and now 9800. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Students' Building

Hi, the page was moved to Students' Building (Vassar College) during the course of the DYK review. Did I adjust the credit line correctly? Yoninah (talk) 22:44, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you did it correctly. Good job. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:14, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter

	Happy Easter
	Happy Easter....  ! Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! You too! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:31, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Mandy dear...

I am not nominating, but wrote articles. Perseus and Andromeda (Leighton) - latest. Hafspajen (talk) 08:25, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

• This was created 1 April. Summer Evening on Skagen's Southern Beach. Hafspajen (talk) 08:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Head of Christ (Correggio) and one more. Hafspajen (talk) 17:36, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

I sort of nominated the Krøyer because of the time issue – it's technically late and not eligible, but I think most reviewers will allow it. I haven't transcluded it yet (and I'm sure a bot will "remind" me about it soon) because there's no hook, but at least the nomination has been saved to lock in the not-toooo-late time.

I have very little time and energy to devote to Wikipedia these days. Frankly, I don't want to do anything where I have to think. I do much, much, much less than I used to – all I do is some gnomy DYK fixes, and maybe some mindless AWB edits where all I have to do is push a button to save an edit while I'm actually off elsewhere doing something else. So, sorry, but I won't be doing any more nominations for you or anybody else. I hope you either nominate your articles yourself, or find somebody else who wants to do it. (There are probably people who like to collect nomination credits.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:27, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for correcting my mistake at the Template:Did you know nominations/Nydala Abbey. I am new to this end of the DYK process. Your explanation was appreciated. Best, w.carter-Talk 10:25, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. Setting the "passed" parameter seems kind of logical when you approve a nomination, but doing so messes up the template. Welcome to "this end" of DYK. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that something strange was going on at the end of my comment, couldn't figure out what though and assumed it was only a glitch. Now I know better. I think I will enjoy "this end". Cheers, w.carter-Talk 10:46, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Thirty Meter Telescope protests

Trimmed. Thanks for the heads up. I should have checked that before submitting.--Mark Miller (talk) 02:44, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: 2x BLP exception

To be eligible for the 2x BLP exception, the article must start without sources of any kind.

So how exactly does that work when most BLP articles lacking sources end up deleted? I take it these must be obscure BLP articles, then. Viriditas (talk) 19:28, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

How does that work? It doesn't! That's why I've been intending for a long time to propose that the useless, obsolete exception be eliminated. I've been reluctant to do so because most discussions around here tend to get nasty no matter how reasonable the proposal. But I've been gathering data, and some day I'll get around to proposing its elimination. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:25, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Mandarax, submit it while at Burning Man this year. For some reason I think you will be more, um, mellow and relaxed when you submit it. I don't the perfect data will be convincing. That area is a Wiki Black Hole. Bgwhite (talk) 05:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I haven't seen anything to write about for awhile. First season of Broadchurch was good. I really enjoyed Netflix's Daredevil and Netflix's Danish series Rita. An American remake of Rita was going to be Anna Gunn's next series after BB, but it didn't get picked up. But, nothing that comes close to BB or B5. I'm really waiting for the second season of Les Reveants. Straczynski's Sense8 is out on Netflix in June. Bgwhite (talk) 05:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

I'll probably be skipping Burning Man again this year, but ya never know what might happen. As far as I know, Anna Gunn's next series after BB was one in which she played a detective. I watched it only because of her. It was so unmemorable that I can't even think of the title. Lemme go look it up..... Ah, it was Gracepoint. Hmmmmm... the article says it was an American remake of Broadchurch. It was so-so at best. There's another season-long murder mystery about the killing of a child which I think is much, much better: Secrets and Lies (although, according to their respective articles, critics apparently disagree with me). MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:29, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Coding problem

At Template:Did you know nominations/Zolykha's Secret, I had moved }} above, because my message was not appearing, and now again after your edits it is not appearing. Check again? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. As I mentioned in my edit summary on the template, it was broken in this edit. (Moving the "}}" just broke it in a different way.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing my DYK submission!

Thanks for fixing my DYK submission. It was my first and this helps me know what to avoid in any future ones. I appreciate it. Carl Henderson (talk) 07:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Welcome to DYK! You're welcome for the fixes. (My edit summary about the ellipses should have said there were four dots, rather than five.) One thing remains to be done. When an image is used, an appropriate (pictured) should be included in the hook; something like (The Chapel Royal pictured). I wasn't sure how to do it so it would fit in naturally, so I'll leave that to you. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Appeasement?

Why appease obnoxious jerks? [1] I'd just as soon tell him to get lost, frankly. Prioryman (talk) 07:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree that we shouldn't have to appease people. But there's one user who always reports every "the" which they believe to be missing when the subject's from the UK, and one admin or another always adds it, so we might as well take care of it before it hits the Main Page.

However, the real reason I do it has to do with a certain admin. Hint: it's someone you suggested might need an RfC/U. Someone I refer to as "Saint Stephen" (the Grateful Dead lyrics from the song of the same name say "wherever he goes, the people all complain"). Someone about whom I've said, "I consider this abusive admin who rampaged through DYK on a reign of terror to be absolutely the single worst thing on Wikipedia." Anyways, he apparently sees every WP:ERRORS report about DYK as further evidence that DYK is full of errors, and I'm afraid of him returning in full force to DYK. The last time he terrorized everybody there during the Dark Days, he drove me away from Wikipedia for nine weeks. If he starts up again, I just might leave for good. So any possible step which might conceivably prevent him from returning must be taken. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Note: this horrible admin recently referred to the period which he turned into the Dark Days as a time during which he was "trying to help". I was tempted to reply "Yes, you were trying.... Very trying!" But I managed to suppress the impulse. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:59, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

An even longer stranger trip

George RR Martin reveals that he has Dead lyrics rattling round his head all the time. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 11:47, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

It's good to know that even someone whose name suggests that he might be associated with the Beatles is a Deadhead. I've never seen Games of Thrones, but I should get around to it some day. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 16:51, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Subpage template

Hi, I was wondering why a good amount of credits repeat the template name (see [2]). I understand why the subpage name is different if the apostrophe is curly instead of straight, but a number of these credit lines don't seem to have any difference in the page names. Thanks for the explanation, Yoninah (talk) 23:14, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Extraneous subpage parameters have been automatically added a lot lately after someone recently rewrote the template which creates nomination pages. It only happens some of the time, and I think it's unintended. Although such subpage parameters are not necessary, they do no harm, and they do potentially serve a useful purpose. If an article is moved, a DYK article credit template which was constructed with the parameter will still point to the correct nomination page; otherwise, it won't. (When adding subpages, I used to add only the ones necessary for the bot to correctly create a DYK credit template on an article's talk page; now, whenever a subpage is necessary for any DYKmake, I add it to all of them on the nomination.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:45, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 19:28, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Summer Evening on Skagen's Southern Beach

Harrias ^talk 06:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Bridges nomination again

Hi, the DYK nominator changed the header on his nomination. Could you add whatever subpage template is called for here? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:47, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

It looks like it was done correctly. Except for the image dimensions, of course. I had restored the correct dimensions twice, and in that edit they made it larger yet again. This time BlueMoonset fixed it. I also checked the two new split-off templates, and they seem fine. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:48, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I was editing too late last night to be able to think clearly about it. Yoninah (talk) 10:04, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Good catch

	Conspicuous attention to detail
	Thank for your work at Template:Did you know nominations/Hold Me While I'm Naked. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:01, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Just doing my part to try to keep the hounds at bay. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:49, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

And there are many hounds with changing rules and agendas. It is good to have a backstop! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:51, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/K Street Bridge

Hi, I was asked to split off 4 noms from a multi-nom hook. Does anything else need to be done to the original nom page? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:14, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't say anything needed to be done, but I removed some things for simplification, especially the unused DYKmake templates. They had been struck, but since they're in a comment, that doesn't show, and a careless set builder might have included some by mistake. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 10:09, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

A Wikiversary? That's cute! Thanks for the nice wishes. Yoninah (talk) 22:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. Can you even believe you've been here so long?

Did you know ...

... that you reviewed my second DYK ever? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 04:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Wow! Yoninah (talk) 20:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Captions

Hi, I notice that captions are now appearing on the main page. Is this something that you're in charge of doing, or does the prep builder have to do something? Yoninah (talk) 20:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, let me start by emphatically saying that I'm not in charge of anything! Yes, prep builders should try to make sure that images are in the correct format and that (pictured) is removed as appropriate. But if they don't do it, I or someone else will be along to take care of it. Once it looks like captions are here to stay for sure, I plan to change the format on all current nominations (but that's not a promise, so don't hold me to it). MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:06, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm still confused. When was this agreed? I cannot see it at DYK discussion. Could you post an answer there for anyone like me who missed it? Victuallers (talk) 17:49, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Answered there. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Golden Retriever Carlos

that thing is going to be a DYK!!

Just the attitude... enthusiasm, I'll catch that and fix that... and such. Hafspajen (talk) 12:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

You're masterful at leaving cryptic messages. I don't really know what this is about, but that's fine. If I had to guess, I'd say Mound of Butter (Vollon), although Carlos was posted here before I chimed in on your butter thread, another thing I had no idea what it was about until about much later when an image was added in a later thread. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

^{"don't really know what this is about, but that's fine".} Gosh, it's you. Hafspajen (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Awwww, thanks. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:47, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Floating line

Hi, there is a floating comment by User:♥Golf between the entries for Template:Did you know nominations/Norm Sartorius and Template:Did you know nominations/David Beard (Canadian football) on the T:TDYK page. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:34, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I fixed it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Kırklareli Museum

Hi! I understand your edit on the image caption. However, I want to know why the (pictured) in the hook has been removed? It was following the words "taxidermied species". --CeeGee 06:05, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Ever since captioned images went live, the (pictured) has been removed from all Main Page sections. Presumably it could still be included if really essential, but I don't think that's the case here.

As I write this, there is one on OTD, but that's obviously an accidental oversight; the current OTD was edited from last year's, which included the (pictured), by the same user who implemented the captions and has been adding accidentally omitted captions and removing accidentally included instances of (pictured). Someone reported it to WP:ERRORS, and it will presumably be removed if anybody gets around to it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

• Does, what you say, mean that the image won't be excluded from the Main Page when the hook appears in the DYK section? --CeeGee 08:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

• If I understand your question correctly, the answer is no, it won't be excluded. Whether a hook has (pictured) or not will have absolutely nothing to do with the decision to use the image. I see that you restored it to the nom. Since captions are so new, there will be a period of adjusting. From the time they started, there was no (pictured) in any of the Main Page sections, but just today they're experimenting with including it. Whatever is finally decided, all picture hooks will either include it or not, to be consistent with the rest of the Main Page. And, again, either way, it won't matter when deciding whether to use an image. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

• I restored the the "(pictured)" after waiting for some time because I was in the belief that you were not interested anymore in replying. Sorry for that. Everything is clear now. Thanks. --CeeGee 05:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

• No problem. I wasn't around when you replied, not returning until about twelve hours later. BTW, it was odd removing that (pictured), since over the years, I've probably added hundreds of them to nominations where they had been accidentally omitted. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Manisha Koirala filmography

Hi. Hope you're well. Could you please move this down to special occasions for August 16 (Actress's 45th birthday). The reviewer has agreed but is unsure how to. I can't as I'm the nominator. Cowlibob (talk) 19:33, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, Cowlibob, the thing is ... I'm opposed to using the Special occasion holding area for occasions which are not special. I think it should only be used for holidays and occasions of international importance. I dislike using it for things such as birthdays, anniversaries, movie or TV premieres, product release dates, etc.

I won't object if someone else does it, but I'd prefer not to do it myself. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. Happy editing. Cowlibob (talk) 17:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK error on Malcolm Guite

You amended my hook proposal to read "that the poet Malcolm Guite" instead of "that poet Malcolm Guite"...Out of curiosity, what is the WP:ERRORS concern you mentioned in the edit summary that requires adding the definite article so I know going forward? Thanks. JackTheVicar (talk) 02:44, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

First, I'll mention that I personally dislike the "the" there. But every single time there is a hook without the "the" about a subject which is remotely British, someone always reports it to WP:ERRORS. It gets "fixed", and someone cites this as proof that DYK is full of errors (even though this is in no way an error). Although I disagree about the "the" being necessary or desirable, I always try to take care of it before a hook hits the Main Page in order to prevent yet another "error report". Here are a few of the recent "error" reports. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

• I guess they've never visited someone in hospital when they were at university. There's no essay that could be used to cluebat these complainers? I was always taught to eschew articles if possible. Seems to be one pointy user who could use correction. JackTheVicar (talk) 10:18, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

• The "university"-type construction isn't really applicable here; it's more an issue related to the controversial concept of false title. Another user (who often takes care of the other user's reports) used to do it everywhere, no matter what the subject; I'm just grateful that the practice is now restricted to British subjects. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 11:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

WP:DYKSTATS

Hi, do you know why the July 2015 chart is too widely spaced under DYK views and not wide enough under Hooks? Yoninah (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

It was mostly due to a malformed link which elongated the views column. I fixed the link, and also added some spaces to further shrink the width. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 16:18, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 16:34, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK needs to be renamed

I screwed this up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Howard_Weist Should be Howard Wiest. Please help. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

The name of a nomination page doesn't matter. (To illustrate this, I named an April Fools' Day nomination page "Throatwobbler Mangrove".) I've patched it, so everything's fine now. Note that if you decide that you want to move it anyways, it'll have to patched again. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:49, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

errorin references article left brain interpreter

Dear Mandarax. I am a regular contributor to the Dutch languagw Wikipedia. I've seen that you have cotributed to the article on the left brain interpreter. Now I need your help in fixing an error in the list of references for that article. the number 10 lists Michael Gazzaniga as one of the authors, which would be pretty nusual in a tribute to himself. I have that book here in front of me on my desk and I see that he is neither mentioned as a contributor nor as an ditor. Could you undo this error ( which must be pretty embarrassing for Gazzaniga) I have asked the same question to a user named Verstiegenheit who is the most recent editor of that article in the history list, but I was warned that there was a problem with my message to him. with greetings from Amsterdam----Dolph Kohnstamm (talk) 14:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

see ref 10. The cognitive neuroscience of mind: a tribute to Michael S. Gazzaniga by Michael S. Gazzaniga, Patricia Ann Reuter-Lore 2010 ISBN 0-262-01401-7 pages 34-35