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O Damjanichu
Kalapis Zoltán piše o Damjanichu(str. 215):
Srpska istoriografija ne zna sta će sa D.J. jednostavno ga ignoriše. Enciklopedija Stanoja Stanojevića štampana izmedju dva rata ga jednostavno naziva neprijateljem srpskog naroda, i krvopijom, a leksikoni izdati posle drugog svetskog rata daju samo njegove osnovne podatke bez kvalifikacija.
(A szerb történelemtudomány sem tud mit kezdeni Damjanich Jánossal, egyszerűen elhallgatja. A két háború közötti Stanojević féle enciklopédia szócikke a szerb nép ellenségének, vérszopójának mondja, a második világháború után kiadott lexikonok viszont csak néhány szavas életrajzi adatait közlik, minősítés nélkül.)
Mogu li ovo prisvajanje smatrati promenom kursa u srpskoj istoriografiji, ili je to samo dobra fora? Bendeguz 20:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Da, na preimenovanje sam mislio. Proveri naprimer u Prosvetinoj Enciklopediji, sta piše o imenovanom, gugluj, stavi svoje ideje na talk page i tek onda pravi rezove ako je tvoj argument jači. Triput meri, jednom seci. Ti si sek'o, a mi sad merimo. Kratko! Bendeguz 20:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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Damjanić
E samo u vezi promene imena članka o Damjaniću, pošto sam primetio da ti to nije prvi put kod takvih promena imena članka: kad se članku promeni ime, treba i sve duple redirekte preusmeriti na novo ime članka. Primetio sam da ti to baš ne radiš kad menjaš ime člancima, ali bih ti skrenuo pažnju da je to važno uraditi, pa bi bilo lepo da kad ubuduće budeš menjao imena člancima preusmeriš i sve duple redirekte na novi naslov. PANONIAN (talk) 22:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- Što se tiče Bendeguza, ja pratim njegove izmene, a očigledno i on prati moje, pa nije baš da se dopunjujemo, već se uglavnom raspravljamo oko tih izmena. :)) Što se Damjanića tiče, ja nemam neko mišljenje koji je naslov bolji, jer čovek jeste bio poreklom Srbin, ali se pomađario (poznata je njegova izjava da će pobiti sve Srbe pa onda na kraju i sebe, jer ni jedan Srbin ne treba da ostane živ), pa ako je sam hteo da bude Mađar ne vidim problem da ime članka bude na mađarskom. Znači, potpuno mi je svejedno na kom će jeziku biti naslov, samo sam ti skrenuo pažnju na duple redirekte, jer tačno je da nisi menjao mnogo naslova na engleskoj Viki, ali u tih nekoliko što si menjao, nisi promenio i duple redirekte. PANONIAN (talk) 15:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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pictures
Hello, thanks for uploading Image:Srbija-Belgija-7.10.2006.JPG. Do you have any more pictures of the Serbian national football team that you can upload? If not can you please upload a higher resolution version of this image, I would like to see if I can enhance it. Thanks // Laughing Man 04:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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Pitam
Znam da bi ti bilo tesko da odgovoris...
Ali ovako me interesuje - zasto te svi ogovaraju na Srpskoj Wikipediji. Sta si mogao toliko lose da ucinis (i da budes Admin na Engleskoj Wikipediji!). --PaxEquilibrium 21:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
University of Pristina
Pogledaj ovu diskusiju [1] i ukljuci se ako mozes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andrija.b (talk • contribs) 19:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
University of Pristina
Pogledaj ovu diskusiju [2] i ukljuci se ako mozes. Andrija.b 19:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
BHS
E Poki Poki... to ce ti neko vratiti. Samo gledaj. Srpski je BHS, a bosanski je bosanski. Bljak, kreteni. --Dzordzm 06:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I see you have corrected the "Bosnian" in the Eurovision Song Contest articles going back to 1999. What about prior to then? Do you have any information on when the BCS status quo was formalised? Was it immediately following Dayton or did it take a few years? Cheers. ·ΚέκρωΨ· 15:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- It was formalized in the Dayton agreements and it did de fact exist already before. Now, for some years it could be rather difficult to obtain any official data on the language in ESC. For example, the 1994 song was sung by a Bosniak lady and a Serb gent. But with situation in B&H what it then was I doubt they put much thought into political correctness. --Dzordzm 16:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- In that case, Croatian and Serbian should also be added to the 1996 and 1997 entries. But were they really official languages of the pre-Dayton "Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina"? I would've imagined that Croatian only attained that status after the Washington Agreement establishing the Federacija in early 1994, and Serbian only after Dayton. ·ΚέκρωΨ· 17:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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Copyright in Serbia
Hi. I have a question about Image:Slovaci u Srbiji.jpg. Why is it in the public domain? Is that licence valid? As far as I understand, in Serbia the laws and other official texts are public domain, but does that extend to any material published by the Serbian Government, including, for example, photos? The image in question comes from this website, which has this copyright notice: "Copyright © 2004 Влада Републике Србије". Is that notice mistaken? Sorry for bothering you. Cheers! — AdiJapan ☎ 15:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- The template says "law, decree, regulation or official material". It doesn't say that any material published by a state body is public domain. And if you are right, why does that website have a copyright notice? It wouldn't make sense. I think it is necessary to check exactly what the law says. May I ask you to search in your copyright law and see what it says about materials produced by state employees? I'm afraid you have in Serbia the same situation as we do in Romania: The official legal, administrative, political and judicial texts cannot be protected by copyright, but any other materials (photos, etc.) can. — AdiJapan ☎ 04:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- Me again. In the meantime I found this article: Serbian copyright law and the full text of the law, in English, here. It appears that the law does not exempt all state-produced materials, but only official texts and materials. Surely the photograph Image:Slovaci u Srbiji.jpg is not an official material, so it is not public domain. — AdiJapan ☎ 04:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Logob92.gif
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Questions about Serbo-Croatian, Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian Wikipedia
Hi, Pokrajac. I saw your name in m:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Serbo-Croatian. I have a question about Serbo-Croatian, Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian Wikipedia. I don't know the reason Serbo-Croatian and Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian editions coexist. If only sh-WP existed and bs/hr/sr-WP didn't (or contrarily, only bs/hr/sr-WP did and sh-WP didn't), I didn't have the question. Why do these four Wikipedias coexist? Please explain the reason :) ― 韓斌/Yes0song (談笑 筆跡 다지모) 10:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Project European Union
Hello Pokrajac, you are member of the project European Union. I try to create a new project page for the project. You can see it at here Because this should be the project page for all it´s members, please tell me, what you think about it. Please leave your comments on the talkpage of the project.--Thw1309 11:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
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Automatic converter in Serbo-Croatian & Bosnian Wikipedia
Hi. Your answer was very useful.
By the way, is there no plan to introduce automatic conversion system in Serbo-Croatian & Bosnian Wikipedia (like Serbian Wikipedia)? Latin and Cyrillic is used in Serbo-Croatian language. In Bosnian language, Latin is mainly used, but Cyrillic is also used seldom. Therefore, I think these two wikipedias need automatic converter between Latin and Cyrillic script. Because I don't know Serbo-Croatian, I have no idea whether the plan of introducing automatic converter exists or not. ― 韓斌/Yes0song (談笑 筆跡 다지모) 07:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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Pokrajac
Hi Pockey,
Well, I see you're familiar with this name! I don't know how to pronounce it, I just fixed the transcription that was already there, "pokrayatz", which looked like a mixture of German and English orthography rather than the IPA. I also left off the accent; since the two versions contradicted each other and the consonants weren't reliable, I thought the accent might be unreliable as well. Please let me know if I messed up. kwami 17:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- How can it possibly be [pokra'jaʦ]??? That sounds strange in any language I can think of; ['pokrajaʦ] (to rhyme with "Gotovac") is barely plausible. The only regular pronunciation is [po'kraːjaʦ] (or [pɔ'kraːjaʦ], if one wants to be picky about the semi-open /ɔ/). Duja► 15:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- A jel'? Nisam imao pojma. Onda je verovatno kratkouzlazni, kao u "Gotovac", a ne kratkosilazni, kao u "Lipovac"; u svakom slučaju, "klasična" IPA ne poznaje razliku bez dodatne notacije, pa bi bilo ['pɔkrajaʦ]. Duja► 20:42, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
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November 2007
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Tvrtko
Why rv the anon? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 00:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- First of all I think we have met before (of course I do). :)
- Second of all it would be too POV to blatantly call him a(n ethnic) Serb. What makes him precisely of Serbian descent? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 18:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's just a title - and not he wasn't. He was Catholic.
- I've read the book and I didn't find any such source/statement.
- Unrelated: aren't you an admin? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 18:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Aren't you Poki from the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 18:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hm, not sure what to answer. :)
- I could swear you were an admin....? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 18:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Don't know what to answer precisely... :) --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 23:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Just here. --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 09:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Don't know what to answer precisely... :) --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 23:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Aren't you Poki from the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia? --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 18:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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Reverting the move of the Boris Pashanski article
Hello. You reverted the move of this article in contravention of established English-language naming conventions. You need to get the article moved back. Tennis expert (talk) 01:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- A note concerning your edits about tennis player names has been placed on the Wikipedia: Administrators' Noticeboard, here. Tennis expert (talk) 17:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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Names
It also applies for Lithuanians, Romanians, Hungarians and players from other countries which use diacritics like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Spain etc. Thanks for notifying WM Serbia. It would be also good to notify respective national WikiProjects and noticeboards. - Darwinek (talk) 11:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Don't forget about those of us Anglos who take correctness in an encyclopaedia seriously, too :) Orderinchaos 16:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I've noticed that you have been involved in renaming some articles back to titles with diacritics. Personally, I'm absolutely dead set against the removal of diacritics, so if there's anything official going on in this respect, please drop me a note. Thanks! GregorB (talk) 22:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I initially had an open mind on the topic, but came to the conclusion there was a distinctly ethnocentric issue at stake - en- does not mean usen- or uken-. By the way, six of the moves have been taken to WP:RM. Orderinchaos 13:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Uf... Orderinchaos moved some articles back to original names, so I presume we have green light for renaming our articles. See this.-- Bojan 14:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'd like to suggest centralizing our efforts at the discussion page provided by Iricigor, as suggested by BokicaK in the previous paragraph. GregorB (talk) 18:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pockey, sada vidim da ti zapravo nisam odgovorio... Situacija je nezgodna, jer formalno WP:UE propisuje to što propisuje, dakle bez naših slova. Sve je uzalud dok se WP:UE ne promijeni, a to zahtijeva dobro argumentiran prijedlog i očito većinu kad se bude odlučivalo. Treba se pripremiti; npr. v. User:Iricigor/UE, tamo je prijedlog, plus neki moji komentari na talk pageu. Treba uključiti više ljudi u ovo, bojim se da će biti potrebno... Pozdrav, GregorB (talk) 11:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Your edits to Novak Djokovic
Please stop reverting his English name back to Serbian. Read the extensive discussions on the talk page of the article, where the outcome was that the article should use the English spelling. You cannot on your own overturn that consensus. --HJensen, talk 09:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes I can, because that is the only right spelling. If you think we should change to Djokovic, than we must change all other Serbian, Croatian, Bosnik, and Polish names. Open new voting for all non-English names if you want to make something. Whitout that this is only double standard. --Pockey (talk) 13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- You have no idea about wikipedia policies. Read the talk-page discussions as a minimum starter. Just because you don't "like" something, you cannot go against consensus. --HJensen, talk 14:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I find it most ironic to find a completely uncivil post accusing someone of not knowing policy. (Additionally, sentiments equating to "our consensus rules, so stuff you!" is completely contrary to both the spirit and the letter of our consensus policy). Orderinchaos 13:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I said "no idea"; not "not knowing". And it is ironic that you make an uncivil post wherein you represent me as saying "stuff you!" to anybody! I merely pointed to the fact that on the Djokovic article there is an established consensus, and by our consensus policy one does not get one's way by just reverting against the consensus over and over. It is stated that one should take it to the talk page. Alto, this user writes "If you think we should change to Djokovic", which shows that s/he has not read the talk page, or even seen the title of the article. That is why I mean that there is no idea about wiki policies (which state one should check the talk page before making controversial edits). When you cite WP:CON to me, is that also uncivil as you implicitly accuse me of not knowing that policy? Ironic, or just confusing?--HJensen, talk 13:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think my comment could be characterised as incivil - your tone and attitude were quite aggressive and dismissive, so I selected an aggressive and dismissive metaphor. I don't accept that there is a consensus on Djokovic (not a case of consensus for previous status quo either, just no consensus of any kind at all). As I have repeatedly said elsewhere (not just on this topic either), consensus is not a tool to be gamed and then used to beat opposing editors over the head with. It does not facilitate or foster a collaborative environment to do so. Additionally, consensus is not some final thing which ossifies at a particular point - it continually evolves. And it is not incivil to accuse someone of not understanding the spirit of a policy - saying "You have no idea about wikipedia policies" is, however, grossly incivil. Orderinchaos 15:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Stuff you" is grossly incivil. I continue to find it ironic that I should be labelled aggressive, when I am trying to maintain an article where a consensus have been reached. The agressor would be someone who accuses somebody of "depressing the Serbian people". I found that exceptionally offensive (and not fostering a collaborate environment), and it led me to my remark about "having no ideas about wikipedia policies". I really mean that it is essential to know that you don't revert again and again just offering accusations as edit summaries. Doing so, even with knowledge about policies, is acting as having no idea about their practial implementation. (And I know consensus can change; see
- I don't think my comment could be characterised as incivil - your tone and attitude were quite aggressive and dismissive, so I selected an aggressive and dismissive metaphor. I don't accept that there is a consensus on Djokovic (not a case of consensus for previous status quo either, just no consensus of any kind at all). As I have repeatedly said elsewhere (not just on this topic either), consensus is not a tool to be gamed and then used to beat opposing editors over the head with. It does not facilitate or foster a collaborative environment to do so. Additionally, consensus is not some final thing which ossifies at a particular point - it continually evolves. And it is not incivil to accuse someone of not understanding the spirit of a policy - saying "You have no idea about wikipedia policies" is, however, grossly incivil. Orderinchaos 15:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I said "no idea"; not "not knowing". And it is ironic that you make an uncivil post wherein you represent me as saying "stuff you!" to anybody! I merely pointed to the fact that on the Djokovic article there is an established consensus, and by our consensus policy one does not get one's way by just reverting against the consensus over and over. It is stated that one should take it to the talk page. Alto, this user writes "If you think we should change to Djokovic", which shows that s/he has not read the talk page, or even seen the title of the article. That is why I mean that there is no idea about wiki policies (which state one should check the talk page before making controversial edits). When you cite WP:CON to me, is that also uncivil as you implicitly accuse me of not knowing that policy? Ironic, or just confusing?--HJensen, talk 13:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I find it most ironic to find a completely uncivil post accusing someone of not knowing policy. (Additionally, sentiments equating to "our consensus rules, so stuff you!" is completely contrary to both the spirit and the letter of our consensus policy). Orderinchaos 13:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- You have no idea about wikipedia policies. Read the talk-page discussions as a minimum starter. Just because you don't "like" something, you cannot go against consensus. --HJensen, talk 14:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
here.) - --HJensen, talk 19:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
R41 put his personal antiserbian opinions continues
R41 again write nonsenses Serbia article.User:Bg007
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