Talk:List of U.S. states and territories by population

Rank Error

Michigan and Georgia have the wrong ranks listed under 2010. Per the 2010 census, Michigan is No. 8 in population and Georgia is No. 9. This list erroneously shows Michigan as No. 9 for 2010 and Georgia as No. 8.

The latter are the rankings for the 2013 population estimates, not for 2010.

I would make the correction myself, but there is no edit button available.

69.181.56.137 (talk) 02:42, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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jreecephd

New York is no longer the 3rd most populous state — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jreecephd (talk • contribs) 06:30, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Left over territorys 2010

I think US Minor Outlying Islands should be added to some up the less important territorys. I'd do it, but there is no edit button.

smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.219.83 (talk) 19:37, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I think (from reading the text) that it's because those territories have no permanent resident population. See the notes about, e.g. Wake Island. And in order to edit, just register. Within a week, if not much sooner, you'll see that little edit button (not available to newcomers on this particular page because of Wikipedia:Protection policy#Semi-protection). —— Shakescene (talk) 19:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

flags

Some entries have the state flag, and some do not. As a featured list I think some consistency is called for here. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:55, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Although I'm not thrilled with the way Georgia turned out. I can't figure how to simply display the word "Georgia" without "U.S. state" which is redundant since it is a list of states. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, now I am really confused. Looking at the documentation for Template:flag, it shows how to name it differently, which worked fine for Georgia, but the same trick did not work for Washington. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

 Fixed Thanks to HJ Mitchell for the assist! Beeblebrox (talk) 23:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Delaware

The 2010 figure for Delaware appears to be wrong. Currently it reads 900,877, but the US Census site says 897,934. This second lower figures also comports with 2010 United States Census. I'm leaving this for someone else to fix in case I'm looking at something incorrectly. Phil wink (talk) 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The 2010 US States only total is off by the 2,943 from Delaware. Add them up using the numbers here and you'd get 308,146,758 instead of 308,143,815. So it is inconsistent. It uses the US Census site Delaware numbers in the fifty state total, but not for the Delaware number. Please correct one of them. 192.122.237.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC).

For a continuation of this discussion, see the section "Inconsistencies in the census numbers" below. Duoduoduo (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Ranking Change from 2000

There has got to be a better way to display changes in ranking from 2000 to 2010 besides the jumble of numbers in the far left-hand column. The jumble ruins the aesthetics of the chart, and it's not consistent with how we show these type of changes. If it's really that important, than just add another column showing the ranking in 2000. --Criticalthinker (talk) 04:03, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistencies in the census numbers

One column gives note [5] for the data source; note [5] in turn gives two different U.S. Census websites. (In one of those sites, you have to click Table 1.) For some reason that I can't figure out, these two sites give slightly different figures from each other, for every state. The data in this article's table are at least in part from Table 1 of one of the sites. This discrepancy explains the above discussion of Delaware's numbers, and it explains my back-and-forth edits on Vermont's numbers. But why do the two census sites disagree with each other? Duoduoduo (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I wrote footnote 5, and when I did look into the Census Bureau's explanations, I wasn't sure that I'd fully grasped them: but I knew that if the distinctions evaded me, they'd probably be too complicated to explain in the footnote, which is why it begins with "For simplicity's sake", giving both sets of numbers for reference. Here's a partial Census Bureau explanation of "apportionment population":

The apportionment population consists of the resident population of the 50 states, plus the overseas military and federal civilian employees and their dependents living with them who could be allocated to a state. The populations of the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico are excluded from the apportionment population because they do not have voting seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/apportionment-data.php
Now the trick is to compare who's counted for non-apportionment population. Unfortunately, the Census website got reorganized in the last couple of years in a way that makes research and searching, even for documents you know exist, far more difficult, laborious and frustrating. —— Shakescene (talk) 02:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I looked over Census 2010 populations and set them to the value of "Total Population" (P1) as found here. I did not check Guam, US Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, or American Samoa. WormNut (talk) 15:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Pie chart

The 50+-slice pie chart in this article is a classic example of pie chart overuse. In fact, funny enough, I went looking for something to back up this impression, and found this article critiquing this very chart. A better alternative would be to highlight the first 5 or so states and combine the rest, or use categories like small states by region ("Small Western States"). - PhilipR (talk) 13:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I understand your point, but I disagree. I think this chart does a really nice job of showing that there are a large number of small states and a small number of large states. You can see at a glance that the four biggest states contain close to a third of the population. Having seen it, it will stick with me for a long time, whereas a paragraph or table presenting the same information would not be likely to stick with me. And the suggested alternative, to have slices for the first five states and combine the rest into regions, would be hard to read because, well, some slices would be states and some would be regions; and it would fail to convey the visual impression that, in the overall scheme of things, 40 or so of the states are more or less indistinguishable in size. Duoduoduo (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism?

The recent edits by Roif456 appear to be vandalism. They consist of unjustified edits to the data themselves. Note that, as the page stands, the totals at the bottom of the table do not accurately reflect the sum of the individual populations presented. 99.14.216.200 (talk) 18:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

The change to Delaware's population figure incurred here, on the other hand, seems inadvertent (though no less wrong). 99.14.216.200 (talk) 19:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the total difference since early July (by clicking the appropriate buttons in Revision History), the changes seem to be to Texas, California, Montana and Wyoming. If they don't fit the sources used for other states, just enter the numbers that do, with an explanation and referral to this Talk Page. If there's too much sniping and WP:edit-warring, you could leave a polite note at User talk:Roif456 inviting him or her to give his point of view here. —— Shakescene (talk) 02:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Massachusetts' "Percent of total U.S. pop., 2010" is Calculated Incorrectly

In the rightmost column of the data table, it appears all values in the rightmost column, entitled "Percent of total U.S. pop., 2010," was calculated by taking the respective states' 2010 Census Population number and dividing by the "Total US territory" population for the same year/column (312,913,872).

Massachusetts' percentage is incorrectly showing 2.04% when the correct percentage is 2.09% (6,547,629 / 312,913,872 = 0.0209)

Thanks! --Enguyen03 (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

This error is now more than a year old and has not yet been corrected. The data seem to be protected against editing -- would someone with access to the means please correct this glaring mistake? garber 16:07, 21 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garber (talk • contribs)

D.C. Should be included as if a state

Without D.C. the electoral college data and population data seem a bit off in presentation. You have to subtract data to get DC's information. Certainly, if territories are included, DC should be; and it has electoral college votes. Plus, it has more people than one or more staes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.36.105 (talk) 08:22, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

But DC is included. It shouldn't be included "as if a state" because it is not a state. If that makes the article confusing, it's only because the actual arrangement is confusing. Blame Congress, but don't distort the actual situation. Joe Avins (talk) 13:16, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Minor territory 2010 populations

I noticed that the four minor territories had incorrect numbers (probably estimates for 2010). I put the correct figures in (and gave the source for them). What I did not do was readjust the total population results or the percentages in the table for the change in the data. Carolina wren (talk) 01:06, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Utah

Utah will soon have four members in the United State's House. Go to http://www.redistrictutah.com/ for more info. This needs to be fixied in the Article(UTC)

Sparty1212 (talk) 15:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Population Change Map, Greater-Than not Less-Than Symbols

The population change map has a number of Less-Than (<) Symbols where it should have Greater-Than (>) Symbols

Cbmccarthy (talk) 13:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 December 2011

I think there is a typo in the table in the States and Territories section. The Idaho Population Estimate July 1, 2011 is listed as 1.584,985, instead of 1,584,985 (i.e. decimal point instead of comma).

Lperovich (talk) 17:03, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 December 2011

California's "Seats in House" number and "Presidental Elector" numbers are reversed on the page. CA has 53 House seats and 55 Electors.

174.76.158.53 (talk) 19:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Done — Bility (talk) 20:50, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

DC's name is wrong

"Washington, DC" is named in the list, but that should be "District of Columbia." Washington is the name of the city, and D.C. is the name of the quasi state. I tried to change this, but the templats used are new to me and I don't have time (right now) to figure out hte mechanics, so I had to undo it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jqavins (talk • contribs) 13:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion for Additional Column(s)

A column for two-digit state code would be nice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.114.157 (talk) 04:33, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

It would be interesting IMO to show the cumulative percentages of electoral votes and population. E.g. going from the top down, it takes 11 states consisting of 56% or so of the population to achieve 50% of the EV. From the other direction it takes 39 states plus DC but less than 44% of the population to get 270. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dduggan47 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

The population per electoral vote is interesting, but the more imporant statistic is "registered voter per electoral vote". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.136.192.1 (talk) 12:26, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Suggest Changing and Adding Columns to Reflect Reapportionment

Currently, there are columns for "House seats 2003–2013" and "2010 Census Pop. per House seat"—however, since reapportionment is complete, see Seat Changes After 2010 Census, this could be updated to reflect the relevant data and statistics for representation in the U.S. House of Representatives after the 2012–2020 elections. Therefore, I believe that there should be a new column, reflecting the number of House seats following the 2012 election, and I believe that the "2012 Census Pop. per House seat" should be made to reflect population per House seat after reapportionment.

Specifically with regards to the "2003–2013" range: I recommend changing this to "2002–2012," and making the new column "2013–2021." While yes, technically states will have their current House representation through the very beginning of 2013, that is somewhat misleading: After noon on January 3rd, 2013, the number of U.S. Representatives each state has in the House will reflect reapportionment. See U.S. Const. amend. XX; see also Seat Changes, supra.

I appreciate anyone who looks into doing this: I would myself, but I just created my account, so even if Wikipedia let me edit this list (which I don't believe it would), I don't have confidence in my ability to pull off this kind of change.

VinnyKolya (talk)

US citizens living abroad

According to many estimates, between 4 and 6 million US citizens live abroad, which would rank between 18 and 27 if it were a state. Is this worth a footnote? 212.254.254.194 (talk) 13:32, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Only if you can narrow it down definitively. Four million to six million is a pretty big range. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:58, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 November 2012

Utah will have four seats in the United States beginning in 2013, not three. Pretty easy to figure that out, idiots. 207.135.137.4 (talk) 00:00, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

N Not done and not likely to be done. Not with that kind of wording. Or without sources, etc. gwickwire | Leave a message 05:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

# individual state electors

I notice that the page on the - Electoral_College_(United_States)#Electors - shows TX, for instance, with 34 electors while this table shows 38. Which page is correct? Is either page correct?

Jfmxl (talk) 08:37, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't have time to check now, but the number of sites and pages outside Wikipedia that projected or reported the number of Electoral votes for each state in the November 6, 2012, presidential election is almost countless. (I could give you half of those numbers from memory but my memory is not a Reliable Source.) Any current almanac or similar reference will also show those numbers. —— Shakescene (talk) 09:29, 21 November 2012 (UTC) [P.S. (written at the same time as the answer below) Here are two such informal but reliable sources: Electoral-Vote.com and RealClearPolitics. But more authoritative is the Electoral College's "own" web site at the National Archives, that gives this allocation of electors for 2012-20 which can be compared with past decades here. Or else you can see the allocation of representatives to each state after every census from 1800 to 2010 at this PDF page of the 2012 Statistical Abstract of the U.S. (published by the United States Census Bureau). Texas, which gained four House seats after the 2010 census, now has 36 representatives and 38 presidential electors. See also the internal Wikipedia link in an earlier thread above to Seat Changes After 2010 Census. —— Shakescene (talk) 10:10, 21 November 2012 (UTC) ]

The answer to your question is that this list is correct and the in-line list at the article you mentioned is out of date. Texas had 32 representatives before reapportionment, but 36 after, thus 38 electoral votes starting with the 2012 election and 113th Congress (Jan. 3, 2013 to Jan. 3, 2015). -Rrius (talk) 09:38, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request on January 16, 2013

The column for 2010 Census Pop. Per House District has two dead citation links in it and it needs to be updated to reflect the 2010 reapportionment of House seats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padfoot714 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request on July 23, 2013

According to the numbers on this page, Michigan was the eighth most populous state in 2010. It was surpassed in population by Georgia between 2010 and 2012, making it the ninth most populous state. Michigan is listed as the ninth most populous state in the ranking columns for both 2010 and 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kian.williams (talk • contribs) 03:00, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

July 1, 2013 Population Estimates Released

(I plugged in the numbers if you want to make it easy, but then you need to check it....) The newest population estimates were released here: http://www.census.gov/popest/data/state/totals/2013/index.html Additionally, the "Rank in all states & territories, 2010" column has rankings for 2012, not 2010, so I request that to be fixed, as well. Changes are just for Michigan (and Georgia) and Arizona (and Indiana). Additionally, Utah is now more populous than Kansas.

States and territories

Rank in the Fifty States, 2013	Rank in all states & terri- tories, 2010	State or territory	Population estimate for July 1, 2013	Census population, April 1, 2010	Census population, April 1, 2000	Seats in U.S. House, 2013–2023	Presi- dential Electors 2012– 2020	2010 Census Pop. per House seat	2000 Census Pop. per House seat	2000 Census Pop. per Pres. Elector	Percent of total U.S. pop., 2010
1	1	California	38,332,521	37,253,956	33,871,648	53	55	702,905	639,088	615,848	11.91%
2	2	Texas	26,448,193	25,145,561	20,851,820	36	38	785,799	651,619	613,289	8.04%
3	3	New York	19,651,127	19,378,102	18,976,457	27	29	668,210	654,361	612,144	6.19%
4	4	Florida	19,552,860	18,801,310	15,982,378	27	29	752,052	639,295	591,940	6.01%
5	5	Illinois	12,882,135	12,830,632	12,419,293	18	20	675,296	653,647	591,395	4.10%
6	6	Pennsylvania	12,773,801	12,702,379	12,281,054	18	20	668,546	646,371	584,812	4.06%
7	7	Ohio	11,570,808	11,536,504	11,353,140	16	18	640,917	630,730	567,657	3.69%
8	9	Georgia	9,992,167	9,687,653	8,186,453	14	16	745,204	629,727	545,764	3.10%
9	8	Michigan	9,895,622	9,883,640	9,938,444	14	16	658,909	662,563	584,614	3.16%
10	10	North Carolina	9,848,060	9,535,483	8,049,313	13	15	733,499	619,178	536,621	3.05%
11	11	New Jersey	8,899,339	8,791,894	8,414,350	12	14	676,300	647,258	560,957	2.81%
12	12	Virginia	8,260,405	8,001,024	7,078,515	11	13	727,366	643,501	544,501	2.56%
13	13	Washington	6,971,406	6,724,540	5,894,121	10	12	747,171	654,902	535,829	2.15%
14	14	Massachusetts	6,692,824	6,547,629	6,349,097	9	11	654,763	634,910	529,091	2.09%
15	16	Arizona	6,626,624	6,392,017	5,130,632	9	11	799,002	641,329	513,063	2.04%
16	15	Indiana	6,570,902	6,483,802	6,080,485	9	11	720,422	675,609	552,771	2.07%
17	17	Tennessee	6,495,978	6,346,105	5,689,283	9	11	705,123	632,143	517,208	2.03%
18	18	Missouri	6,044,171	5,988,927	5,595,211	8	10	665,436	621,690	508,656	1.91%
19	19	Maryland	5,928,814	5,773,552	5,296,486	8	10	721,694	662,061	529,649	1.85%
20	20	Wisconsin	5,742,713	5,686,986	5,363,675	8	10	710,873	670,459	536,368	1.82%
21	21	Minnesota	5,420,380	5,303,925	4,919,479	8	10	662,991	614,935	491,948	1.70%
22	22	Colorado	5,268,367	5,029,196	4,301,261	7	9	720,704	614,466	477,918	1.61%
23	23	Alabama	4,833,722	4,779,736	4,447,100	7	9	682,819	635,300	494,122	1.53%
24	24	South Carolina	4,774,839	4,625,364	4,012,012	7	9	770,894	668,669	501,502	1.48%
25	25	Louisiana	4,625,470	4,533,372	4,468,976	6	8	647,625	638,425	496,553	1.45%
26	26	Kentucky	4,395,295	4,339,367	4,041,769	6	8	723,228	673,628	505,221	1.39%
27	27	Oregon	3,930,065	3,831,074	3,421,399	5	7	766,215	684,280	488,771	1.22%
28	28	Oklahoma	3,850,568	3,751,351	3,450,654	5	7	750,270	690,131	492,951	1.20%
—	29	Puerto Rico	3,615,086	3,725,789	3,808,610		0	—	—	—	1.19%
29	30	Connecticut	3,596,080	3,574,097	3,405,565	5	7	714,819	681,113	486,509	1.14%
30	31	Iowa	14	12	2,926,324	4	6	609,271	585,265	418,046	0.97%
31	32	Mississippi	2,991,207	2,967,297	2,844,658	4	6	741,824	711,165	474,110	0.95%
32	33	Arkansas	2,959,373	2,915,918	2,673,400	4	6	728,980	668,350	445,567	0.93%
33	35	Utah	2,900,872	2,763,885	2,233,169	4	6	921,295	744,390	446,634	0.88%
34	34	Kansas	2,893,957	2,853,118	2,688,418	4	6	713,280	672,105	448,070	0.91%
35	36	Nevada	2,790,136	2,700,551	1,998,257	4	6	900,184	666,086	399,651	0.86%
36	37	New Mexico	2,085,287	2,059,179	1,819,046	3	5	686,393	606,349	363,809	0.66%
37	39	Nebraska	1,868,516	1,826,341	1,711,263	3	5	608,780	570,421	342,253	0.58%
38	38	West Virginia	1,854,304	1,852,994	1,808,344	3	5	617,665	602,781	361,669	0.59%
39	40	Idaho	1,612,136	1,567,582	1,293,953	2	4	783,791	646,977	323,488	0.51%
40	41	Hawaii	1,404,054	1,360,301	1,211,537	2	4	680,151	605,769	302,884	0.43%
41	42	Maine	1,328,302	1,328,361	1,274,923	2	4	664,181	637,462	318,731	0.42%
42	43	New Hampshire	1,323,459	1,316,470	1,235,786	2	4	658,235	617,893	308,947	0.42%
43	44	Rhode Island	1,051,511	1,052,567	1,048,319	2	4	526,284	524,160	262,080	0.34%
44	45	Montana	1,015,165	989,415	902,195	1	3	999,243	902,195	300,732	0.32%
45	46	Delaware	925,749	897,934	783,600	1	3	900,877	783,600	261,200	0.29%
46	47	South Dakota	844,877	814,180	754,844	1	3	814,180	754,844	251,615	0.26%
47	48	Alaska	735,132	710,231	626,932	1	3	710,231	626,932	208,977	0.23%
48	49	North Dakota	723,393	672,591	642,200	1	3	672,591	642,200	214,067	0.21%
—	50	District of Columbia	646,449	601,723	572,059		3	—	—	190,686	0.19%
49	51	Vermont	626,630	625,741	608,827	1	3	625,741	608,827	202,942	0.20%
50	52	Wyoming	582,658	563,626	493,782	1	3	563,626	493,782	164,594	0.18%
—	53	Guam	—	159,358 [1]	154,805		0	—	—	—	0.06%
—	54	U.S. Virgin Islands	—	106,405 [2]	108,612		0	—	—	—	0.04%
—	55	American Samoa	—	55,519 [3]	57,291		0	—	—	—	0.02%
—	56	Northern Mariana Islands	—	53,883 [4]	69,221		0	—	—	—	0.02%
—	—	The Fifty States	315,482,390	308,143,815	280,849,847	435	535	709,760	645,632	524,953	98.48%
—	—	50 States + D.C.	316,128,839	308,745,538	281,421,906	435	538	—	—	523,089	98.67%
—	—	Total U.S. territory	—	312,913,872	285,620,445	435	538	—	—	—	100.00%

BlanketPI (talk) 22:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Done --Mdann52talk to me! 14:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2014: Changing the ranks in the 2010 Census Rank column

I noticed the ranking for state populations was a bit off with respect to the 2010 Census. Indiana should be ranked 15 in that column, Arizona 16, Kansas 34, Utah 35, West Virginia 38, and Nebraska 39. These errors can be seen when one does a ranking by toggling the 2010 Census population column to go from top to bottom. 72.192.126.193 (talk) 01:03, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done: It appears that the "50 states" ranking is based of the 2013 estimate as opposed to the 2010 censusus count which is the "Rank of states and territories in 2010" column. Hasteur (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree that it does seem a bit confusing, but since the territories (other than PR and DC) don't have 2013 estimates, any ranking that includes them must use the 2010 data. Kennethaw88 (talk) 03:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2014: Changing the column title in the 2012 Estimate Rank column

Another change that should be made is to the column header for the 2012 population estimate rankings. It looks like the ranks are accurate to the actual 2013 population, which can be seen when you toggle from top to bottom the 2013 estimate column, but the column title itself needs to be changed to 2013 from 2012. 72.192.126.193 (talk) 01:19, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done: Reliable sources are needed. And what column for 2012 data? Hasteur (talk) 20:01, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2014: Update "Census Pop. per House Seat" numbers

Unless I'm mistaken, the "2010 Census Pop. per House seat" column is inaccurate for all states that gained or lost a seat after the 2010 Census. Indeed, footnote 4 says that the math in that column is done on the basis of the 2003-2013 apportionment rather than the current (2013-2023) apportionment. Not sure how to fix this myself, but since the 2010 Census population and Seats in U.S. House columns are accurate, it seems to be a simple math problem. Gothamscholar (talk) 23:21, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Numbers don't add up?

I've noticed that the numbers for each state and territory don't add up to the total. Is this an error, or are there statistical reasons for it? Someone the Person (talk) 04:12, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2014

I would provide a source if I had one but that is the point of my question. In this article, included is a population estimate from July 1, 2013 for each US state and territory, however no source is provided for where or how this estimate was derived. 216.51.73.42 (talk) 20:12, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I assume it is - this census release see the section "July 1, 2013 Population Estimates Released" above
However, you are right, the article should cite the source, so I have added it in the External Links section. - Arjayay (talk) 14:18, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Middle Atlantic not correctly identified in the bottom table

I apologize for not editing this myself, but I have yet to learn how to edit Wiki Tables.

New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania are Middle Atlantic, not New England.

The right column shows them as New England, but when you sort on that column they sort correctly. So only the tag, not the sort order, needs changing.

Rlhess (talk) 18:06, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

 Fixed. Good catch. kennethaw88 • talk 04:21, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I agree about NY, NJ, PA, but by Wikipedia's own definition on the page "Mid-Atlantic States" and my own education, MD, DE, DC and WVA certainly are Mid-Atlantic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.166.70.87 (talk) 00:31, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

You are right that there is not a universal definition of Mid-Atlantic States, but the US Census Bureau defines only NY, NJ, and PA as Mid-Atlantic, as a division of the Northeast Region (see United_States_Census_Bureau#Census_regions_and_divisions as well as Mid-Atlantic_states#Defining_the_Mid-Atlantic). Because this page is based on Census Bureau data, it should stick with this definition. kennethaw88 • talk 23:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Dated??

The table talks about the population as of July 1, 2013. Right now, it's nearly 2015, and some states might have surpassed others. Anything we have to wait for before updating the table?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:42, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

According to the release schedule (and consistent with previous years), state-level population estimates for July 1, 2014 will be released by the end of the month. kennethaw88 • talk 00:42, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2014

New York is now the 4th most populous state, with Florida surpassing new York to become the 3rd. The list is out of date. See the following citation: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2014/cb14-232.html

Jreecephd (talk) 06:38, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --Mdann52talk to me! 18:17, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2015

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The state map showing the estimate of population as of July 2014 needs to be updated to reflect Georgia exceeding 10,000,000. Also, adding a 7th population bracket would make the population differences of the larger states more clear, e.g. 0-1,1-3,3-6,6-10,10-15,15-25,25+. California is about 20,000,000 bigger than Florida and New York, which is a very sizable difference. I uploaded an example of the changes in WikiCommons. Thenolancarter (talk) 16:21, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Thenolancarter (talk) 16:21, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. There needs to be some discussion and a consensus to make these changes since they appear to be somewhat substantial. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 22:45, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I would generally support updating the map. However, the picture on the right has Michigan's upper peninsula colored incorrectly. (And I would suggest using a very dark blue instead of black, like what is already used). It would also be nice to update the percent growth map at the same time. kennethaw88 • talk 03:52, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Summary of population by region section - Add Map (or link existing to Legend text)?

There is a map on the United_States_Census_Bureau#Census_regions_and_divisions:

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I think this as an inset to the right of the table could be useful visual aid for the regions and divisions in this section, possibly even color-coding to reflect population somehow since this is all white. But simply placing the existing file would help (color coding may confuse the table's color coding for what is a region vs. a division, etc.) Or, at least making the statement in the legend in Orange "Divisions & regions as defined by U.S. Census Bureau" into a link to the United_States_Census_Bureau#Census_regions_and_divisions, that might suffice. PJV (talk) 18:24, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Guantanamo Bay Naval Base

Shouldn't the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base be listed in this article? Under the treaty, it is "leased" from Cuba, for as long as the US wants, in which the US pays a token "rent" of a few thousand dollars a year, which Cuba does not even cash. So in effect, it is a de facto US territory. Wasp14 (talk)

The population of Guantanamo is almost entirely soldiers, if I recall correctly the Census counts soldiers geographic location in a unique manner that isn't reflective of where they are stationed. Regardless, it is Cuban soil and wouldn't be appropriate to include (and to get reeeeaaalll technical the U.S. citizen population would likely be counted as zero not just because of the soldiers thing but even if a soldier had their family living there then they would be Americans living abroad and, if included at all, would count whatever state is normally 'home' then) Yeah I understand why some people thnk it should be included but from a neutral (as possible) statistical/demographic point of view, it shouldn't be included.

Tunafizzle (talk) 07:34, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

overwrote "pop per house member" w/ "pop per congress member" if reverting PLEASE ELABORATE

I have no idea, nor have I ever seen, anyone talk, refer to, use, mention population per HOUSE seat. This metric is useless and misleading and the more commonly accepted, useful, talked about, refered to metric is population per CONGRESSIONAL seat. I merged the stupid "number of house seats" and "number of electors" columns into a new "number of congressional seats" column. And overwrote one of the THREE (YES THREE!!!) pop. per house seat columns (2014 est.) with pop per congressional seat (2014 est)

If you aren't clear why the house metric is pointless consider that it gives the impression that Wyoming, Utah, and the Dakotas have much less representation in Congress---that Wyoming has only one house member to represent over 1,000,000 people (it was ranked #1), this is extremely misleading to not mention Senators (and bizarre). Wyoming voters have 1 rep. per 194,000 people, compared to the average of 500,000. If you are reverting this edit please elaborate as to why pop per house seat is of any value and why it is better to have three columns for it.

Thanks.