Talk:Yolandi Visser

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Marriage

I Have read/watched quite a few interviews with Ninja/Yolandi and I have seen nothing about them being married. They typically play down any romantic relationship while proclaiming to be good parents together. The two of them with their daughter were on the cover of South Africa Rolling Stone. Their daughter was also in the video Enter the Ninja. Also within the past couple of days Yolandi was on the cover of South African FHM Magazine. This will be my first go at being an editor but I'll see what I can do to add to this article. I'll find some sources, etc. 24.7.139.94 (talk) 01:01, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere in this article does it mention them being married, as far as I can see. Kaini (talk) 04:38, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was mentioned in the comments below 24.7.139.94 (talk) 00:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yo-Landi and Ninja have never been married and even though they do have a child together they are not in a relationship and have not been since 2007. They are both great parents but they are not together. talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talk • contribs) 07:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Two things

1) The photograph is overexposed. I guess that's because Yolandi is under bright stage lights while wearing shiny or light clothing, and she's pale and blonde. Still, it would be great if someone who knew their way around PhotoShop could fix it up.

2) In one of the video interviews, Jones mentions that he and Visser have a child together. Should this be mentioned? Dylan Flaherty (talk) 05:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1) the photo sucks, full stop. if a better one with appropriate licensing exists, then it should be replaced. 2) i don't see why not. --Kaini (talk) 05:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've done enough photography to feel sympathetic about the overexposure. The photo is not great as it stands, but it's fixable. I just don't have the tools and skills.

As for their child, my big problem is in remembering which video it was in. Also, given the fact that Jones often stays in character, I would prefer a secondary source to confirm my interpretation. In other words, I want a journalist or other reliable source who agrees that Jones wasn't just being weird. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 05:23, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i seem to recall an interview where they talk pretty candidly about it and stress that it's their private life, and nothing to do with die antwoord... i'll see if i can dig it up --Kaini (talk) 17:56, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Check out the article: I found it.

The reason I wanted to include it is that it gives some insight into their relationship. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 18:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I saw an interview video on dieantwoord.com where they mentioned having a child together but a self produced interview hosted on their own website isn't the best source and the http://www.coyotechronicle.com/entertainment/enter-the-zef-1.2391265 seems like a compilation of stolen content. Jasonb80 (talk) 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the photo is not great and should be replaced. It was the only one I found with a reasonable amount of searching that had exceptionable usage rights. Jasonb80 (talk) 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Real name and marriage

Found a brief article on a reputable news site which confirms her real name is Anri Du Toit. http://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/band-have-the-answer-to-secret-of-success-1.1233050?ot=inmsa.ArticlePrintPageLayout.ot Stellaseeker (talk) 17:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

good find! i've been hunting for a WP:RS that mentions her real name for a while. it also confirms dj hi-tek as being justin de nobrega, something else i've been looking for. i'll add it later today. Kaini (talk) 18:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thanks. Just her DOB to be sourced. I'm 99% sure she was born in 1981. Stellaseeker (talk) 19:44, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at that article again and I don't know if they actually ARE married.. could just be a journalistic bit of blurb put in between quotes from her dad. I seriously doubt he would say in one breath they're married and then refuse to talk about Die Antwoord in the next. Stellaseeker (talk) 19:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

oh, they're definitely married. i'm 100% on that. just gotta find a source that's very explicit about that, considering BLP. Kaini (talk) 20:23, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

found one here: http://www.mahala.co.za/uncategorized/max-doesnt-live-here-anymore/ from 2009, couple that together with the one I posted above, almost a year to the day.. weird Stellaseeker (talk) 18:30, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article improvement

Respectfully to those who have worked on this article, this article is barely about Yolandi. I'd like to help improve it if someone would like to collaborate on it with me.Unirider (talk) 01:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is a huge lack of verifiable information regarding Yo-Landi. If you have any from a decent source, please feel free to add it. Stellaseeker (talk) 22:08, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistancy

On the 'Watkin Tudor jones' page at the bottom, it says that they are both vegetarians, based on a 2012 interview yet this article says they are both Vegans. Which is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.30.69 (talk) 11:16, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They are vegetarians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talk • contribs) 09:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Birthday

She changed her birthday date on VK from March 1984 to December 1982. No idea if any of the two is correct. http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/yolandi-visser.html claims the first one is.

Any insights? --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 17:38, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well famousbirthdays scrapes from other websites, and isn't a reliable source on Wikipedia per the couple of discussions on WP:RSN, so I'd take that one with a grain of salt. - Aoidh (talk) 09:09, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Her birthday is December 1 1984 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talk • contribs) 09:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Visser

We should not used the stylized Vi$$er in the body of the article. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 02:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

She prefers to be called Yolandi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talk • contribs) 09:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Career

An editor is turning the career section into a filmography and discography. Neither of those are necessary since the content is very limited, it could just be listed and does not need to include the cast of the film. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 05:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=239105866296367&set=pb.100005908656405.-2207520000.1457858258.&type=3&theater

After you see the picture can you please stop messing with my edits? I really do know Anri du Toit and I really am trying to fix her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talk • contribs) 09:12, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This does not matter, the content that is added must comply with WP:BLP standards. No Original Research and what is included must be sourced to reliable secondary sources. Editors have been attempting to help you and guide you through the process, suggesting that they leave you alone will likely only result in having your edits not complying with BLP standards and will be continued to be reverted. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 19:28, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

COI / Unreliable information / fixing article?

Greetings, So Die Antwoord Staff came in, tried to make a bunch of changes, some of which were reverted, but then he was blocked because of his username and wikipedia policy. He came back I believe as Gene ZEF. He's making changes now, a lot of them, but he's getting better at what he's doing.. but he still wiped out a number of references. One problem is the general unreliable information out there about Yolandi and Ninja due to their desire to create an atmosphere around themselves artistically. As an example, we have an article that has a birthdate in it, however, other articles say other things, and Yolandi / Anri tells Gene ZEF something different entirely. How do we make sure the information is accurate and not OR when minor tweaks are made by Gene ZEF on their behalf? Things like getting a better photo direct from the source contributed to wikimedia, or fixing simple things like a birthdate I can accept as good things. Centerone (talk) 02:48, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=239105866296367&set=pb.100005908656405.-2207520000.1457858258.&type=3&theater

After you see the picture can you please stop messing with my edits? I really do know Anri du Toit and I really am trying to fix her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gene ZEF (talk • contribs) 09:09, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]