Talk:Star Citizen

The Escapist Article

I heard about this game on Forbes, and read an analysis about how the developers have been conducting negligent usage of money and the misspending of 85 million dollars. I came hoping to read more about this development as it seems that the company has gone out and begin threatening The Escapist with lawsuits, in the process making a huge legal mistake that they will not be able to defend if it happens to go to court. From what I've read The Escapist seems to have done proper reporting, and it seems at this point the developers are scrambling to do damage control. Could someone please add a section detailing all the events that have transpired? It seem to be a very important part and history about the development of this game. I hope that this page isn't being censured by the developers or the people that crowd funded the project. Thanks. 66.215.230.193 (talk) 07:54, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Considering that the claims made are not verifiable, and constitute nothing more than rumors, it doesn't seem appropriate for the wiki page. The idea that low-level employees know the financial status of CIG is laughable at best (the only people with that information would be a select few at the highest level). Frankly, nothing of consequence has come from the article, and the community has mostly forgotten about it. It hasn't affected the development nor direction of the game, so I'm unsure how you'd class it as "very important". 121.215.138.175 (talk) 05:56, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia really shouldn't take a stance in personal vendettas carried out by frustrated "competitors" which is exactly what would be the case if this was even mentioned in the article unless a more credible source than the personally disgruntled Derek Smart can be found. 01:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)2001:4DD0:FF00:9CAF:3142:7063:703F:710F (talk)

Derek Smart had nothing to do with the Escapist Article, nor was he cited as a source. That you are jumping to this conclusion here leads me to believe the Star Citizen fanbase did indeed have a strong role in creating/maintaining this article.73.138.37.85 (talk) 16:01, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

isnt the ceo of a 110$+ millions compny writig 8 hours angry letter revelant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.246.35 (talk) 03:33, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Edit dispute with Ferret and Neutral2006 concerning contents of the whole article

Neutral2006 contests that the lede is inaccurate on several points, but the one particular example presented to me was the claim that the game is planned for Linux. Multiple reliable sources however back this up, even if a Linux version is not yet available, the game is still "upcoming". Neutral2006 provided this unreliable source regarding Linux. However, the source doesn't say Linux is cancelled or no longer planned, only that the delays relate to CryEngine and that there's continuing efforts to get it to work. Based on the sourcing available, even Neutral2006's own link, Linux should continue to be listed. -- ferret (talk) 16:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

1) The release date should be changed from TBA 2016 to TBA as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines

Care should be taken in stating release dates. Many commercial gaming sites, such as GameSpot, IGN, and 1UP.com, supply accurate dates, as well as vendor sites such as Amazon.com or GameStop. For unreleased games, vendor sites should not be used as verifiable sources since their date is likely based on their best estimate of when the game is to be out; always look for corroborating statements from reliable sources to confirm these dates. If a general timeframe ("first quarter", "early") or even month is provided, include this before the year, but do not link these terms (see date formatting in the Manual of Style). Avoid the use of seasonal estimate release dates ("winter", "summer") as these have different meanings in different parts of the world (see WP:SEASON for more). If the game is announced but no release date is given, state this as "TBA"

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Neutral2006 (talk • contribs) 16:22, 23 June 2016 (UTC) Neutral2006 (talk) 16:23, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Response to 1) The 2016 date is from a reliable source (Polygon) in which Chris Roberts stated a release in 2016. It was not taken from a vendor site. The article's infobox is in line with guidelines. -- ferret (talk) 16:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Response to 1) http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/21/7866019/chris-roberts-says-star-citizen-will-reach-100-million-in-2015-shares .Being the cited article, makes no mention of a release date in 2016 and further more http://www.polygon.com is not a reliable source and the date of the article is 1 year and 6 months ago. The only reference is a quote from a video directly from the Ceo of the games publisher and developer, which under the guidelines is not allowed. Neutral2006 (talk) 16:29, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Please indent your responses with colons. This helps keep the discussion in order. Polygon is a vetted reliable source, see WP:VG/RS. Did you even read the article? Direct quote: "By the end of 2015 backers can expect to play the alpha of the persistent universe, leading up to an eventual 2016 commercial launch of the game." Yes, it is old, but 2016 isn't over yet so its not inaccurate. The guideline does not forbid a quote from the publisher/developer that is covered by a reliable source. When we get to 2017, it will be inaccurate and removed. For now, it's still the planned release. -- ferret (talk) 16:36, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Question wheather or not I read the article is not really necessary for this discussion and as such is inflammatory and only serves to incite a flame war, please refrain from this behaviour in the future to keep the discussion civil. lets look at the accuracy of the polygon article.

--According to the polygon article: -Star Citizen FPS will release in Spring 2015 - Didn't happen. -The beta of the planet side product Spring 2015 - Didn't happen. -Arena Commander 2.0 Summer 2015 - Didn't happen. -Squadron 42 episode one Fall 2015 - Didn't happen. -Full persistant universe of Star Citizen end of 2015 - Didn't happen. -Full Commercial release 2016 - Considering that we are in June of 2016 and all of the above have failed to release, the major one being the full persistant universe, which is a critical component of the full release, i'd say that the 2016 estimate is inaccurate along with the polygon article cited above.

The Star Citizen Gamepedia has the Final release as 2017-2018 Final Release

The game's final release is anticipated to occur at the end of 2017-18[8] along with the full persistent universe and all previous features implemented and scaled up. Star Citizen Commercial launch date is not officially stated.

Neutral2006 (talk) 17:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Gamepedia is a wiki and unreliable, it can't be used as a source. The basic fact is that we're still in 2016 and the source is not yet wrong. However, I also don't have any particular investment in it so "TBA" is fine with me in the end. -- ferret (talk) 17:07, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you.Neutral2006 (talk) 17:09, 23 June 2016 (UTC)