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Category:Wikipedians who support proprietary software

A category you created is currently being discussed at Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion#Category:Wikipedians_who_support_proprietary_software. User:Dorftrottel 16:37, January 15, 2008

Word88 Page Protection

Thanks for protecting that page. Reverting was becoming annoying. Take Care and Happy Thanksgiving...NeutralHomer • Talk • November 27, 2008 @ 06:34

Weird day....

Hey i'm mczack26, im from the i.p. adress

90.204.97.40

Which you just declined, is this a way of verifinging that tilejoin is no longer on this address? There are other people on the network who edit anon.

P.S. It's a sad day when people can't edit anon on wikipedia...

A page with this title has previously been deleted.

Hi, Please let me know if you need anything to make the page again. Thanks.

"If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below.

   * 10:31, September 22, 2009 Od Mishehu (talk | contribs) deleted "Category:Bangladesh Fashion Week" ‎ (Empty category (CSD C1))

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Ani medjool

Please see WP:ANI where I've raised an issue concerning Ani medjool, who is subject to the WP:ARBPIA case. Mjroots (talk)

User:ישעיהו שוורץ

Normally I'd welcome ישעיהו שוורץ (talk · contribs), but in this case I think you are a better editor to do that as I'm he-0! Would you do the honours please? Mjroots (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

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Redirects to stubs

Hi I need you advice. Any particular reason there are still pages in Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Template_redirects#Stub_templates? I mean should they really all these redirects be replaced? -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:47, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We generally want stub redirects to get bypassed eventually; on the other hand, it;s frequently not worth the edits. So in stead, we list them there, and over time they get fixed without anyone thinking about it at the time it's being done. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I now wonder why -his- is preferred over -history- -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:55, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because at WikiProject Stub Sorting (WSS) we have certain standards for the tag names; this was aparently the established name by October 2005. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:02, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe use to get rid of as many redirects as possible then? -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:28, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Any which are completely orphaned should probably be deleted. Don;t go out of your way to orphan them, though - that would violate WP:R2D. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 21:18, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think there are some already orphan. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:21, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

NCStateParks can go too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:44, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So to make clear: Do you think stub redirects should be replaced but not by bots and not as sole edits? -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:55, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They should be replaced as side-effects of other edits (typicly AWB), but not as the purpose of an edit. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:57, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Removed. Better find another way then. I thought I was helping the Stub sorting project. Since this page can cause side-effects find other ways to replace them. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The issue here is, as wasmentioned in the case over several issues, WP:COSMETICBOT. If you look closely at what I wrote, you'll see that I explicitlyt mentioned this fact. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK I claim that if a task has consensus it can be done independently of COSMETICBOT. This is something it happens very often and not only be me. I removed the stubs using my main account in order to help a job that I thought it has consensus by an entire project assuming good faith. The same way people remove unused parameters, duplicated arguments etc. This page is used by my bot too and when the bot fails to make an edit it only makes a minor edit. Since the initial purpose of the pages was to help developers to avoid hard coding I do not think I need extra complexity and get into more trouble for this. Recently a bot was approved to remove unused parameters. I suggest that you ask for a bot to remove the redirects and see if it gets approval. It seems people push now to not allow bots do multiple tasks together. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:08, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects

Can you please provide evidence that bypassing redirects to navboxes etc. as a low priority secondary tasks has/had consensus? Since, I assumed good faith and fixed many of these I would like to know especially now that you identify my editing as problem. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have never bypassed navbox redirects as an edit; I some times have done it with an edit. My taxobox work isn't bypassing redirects - it's changing them to a separate template. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I never said you did. I said that you indirectly(?) implied that this is OK to be done by others. Am I wrong? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:57, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

When did I imply that? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 21:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you add pages to WP:AWB/TR? The initial purpose was only to help AWB work with various templates and avoid bugs. E.g. [1]. Now I see that other did the same too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AWB/TR is explicitly for actions which should be done in addition to edits, not as edits; this would tend to prove my point. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:15, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Where is this written? That's what I ask. I need this to prove that this edits at least as "in addition" are welcome. I am not against you. I am trying to understand. I now you are right because this is done for many years. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:18, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The issue here is not whether these actions should be done in addition; the issue is whether they can be done as edits. The answer to that is AWB rule #4, as well as CONMETICBOT. In the case of stub templates, I did discuss the issue in WikiProject Stub Sorting, and there was no ojection to listing them there. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:32, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK this part is clear. The thing is not clear to me is how a page that we the AWB developers had only for internal issues mainly regarding tagging changed to become a place to use to orphan redirects even as low priority task. So, I don't seek answer to the later question. I seek answer to the question I posed. Do you know if it was somewhere decided that this page can be used to bypass redirects as secondary/low priority task? -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:40, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea when or where any decisions about the AWB fixes were made. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:41, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I think that perhaps AWB should diactivate this feature. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:44, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Better idea: As I proposed, we should have a new set of discussions on what general fixes should be included; include this question as part of that. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:46, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not right now. This mass change in the TR page caused bot malfunction. First, I have to fix this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:57, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'll (try to) change the AWB code to only check the redirects in WP:AWB/TR and not actually replace them. There seems to be some consensus to bypass certain redirects as a secondary task but I can't find any formal discussion supporting this. I 've seen people mentioning this is OK but I still wonder where that came from. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:22, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bot for category history merges

See Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Bot_for_category_history_merges. 103.6.159.72 (talk) 10:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Taxonomy/Pygopodomorpha

As you will have seen, at Template:Taxonomy/Pygopodomorpha I changed the rank again to "clade" because the parent is an infraorder. Do you have a source for this classification? Peter coxhead (talk) 07:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was simply copying from extant taxoboxes - in this case, the infobox which was on Diplodactylidae. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:20, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do get the impression that the entire Squamata taxoinomy system is screwed up; the first step to fix it, I believe, is to set up the sutomatic taxobox system in all relevant articles - and I'm using the extant taxoboxes for all parent and rank information. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:30, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As I've discovered, using existing taxoboxes as information sources is often not a good idea! Wikispecies here treats Gekkota as a suborder and Pygopodomorpha as an infraorder, which works. Or there's another self-consistent system here. I suggest going with Wikispecies for now. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:47, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent phylogenetic study seems to be this one, but like almost all such studies, doesn't give a classification. Sigh... Peter coxhead (talk) 08:08, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with Squamata is that the families within it have been rearranged several times, and are apparently still disputed to some degree (see, for example, Toxicofera). If we end up taking pieces of taxonomy from different sources, we'll end up with a complete mess. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:40, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I agree. That's why I suggested going with Wikispecies for now, even though it's not consistent with the latest phylogenetic work. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:51, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Filter 380

Hello Od Mishehu. I notice you sometimes handle the filter reports. Could you look at this one and see if there is something wrong with Filter 380? I can't see what the filter is objecting to. The IP seemed to be adding references. Or should I just mark this kind of thing as a false positive? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 15:42, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston:The problem here, I believe, is the reference to a person by the name of "Roxanne Gay", along with a url which includes this person's last name. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:00, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I should mark this as a false positive. When this happens, is there any button to approve the edit? EdJohnston (talk) 02:49, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, You just haveto manually copy over the relevant sections from one of the places with the relevant source - either the "Changes made in edit" pn top, or one of the Action Parameters containing the relevant source data (added_lines, new_wikitext). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:11, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock requests

Hello! I monitor Category:Requests for unblock and two of your pages, User:Od Mishehu/unblock-global and User:Od Mishehu/unblock-global/doc, are showing up there because you are using the unblock templates there. Could you please edit those pages? It's obviously perfectly fine if you just link to the templates (perhaps, showing how to use them) rather than using those templates directly. Thanks. --Yamla (talk) 13:17, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I too have been checking on those two pages because they were showing up in Category:Requests for unblock. Potentially, a large number of administrators could waste time checking on them, so for the present I have blanked the pages. I don't know what your purpose is in having those pages, but perhaps you could achieve whatever the purpose is by some means that does not cause the same problem, such as displaying the relevant version from the page's editing history when you wish to use it, rather than saving it. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:42, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm tring to construct a good system for handling requests for locally disabling global blocks; I didn't even think about the category. I have disabled the category now, so there should be no problems there. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

this article should be removed. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luka Kukhianidze