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19th century claim
The claim that the word only started taking on a pejorative tone during the 19th C strikes me as incorrect. You can see a pejorative use of the word in Immanuel Kant's Perpetual Peace, second addition (last line).
About commenting of Mai Chi Tho, Communist Vietnamese politician, Vietnam War.
Dear, I'm a Vietnamese, and I research Vietnam War's history. In this topic "Propaganda", when I read about commenting of Mai Chi Tho in a paragraph what is "Vietnam War", I don't agree with your information. That is a way in brain's thinking - of someones - not all ones - of cause, that is not all, and that is not the true. I want that you change to save the true. Thanks.
Too many images
I feel there are too many images in this article and should be significantly reduced. ProjectHorizons (talk) 01:15, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Great Examples of Propaganda
I do indeed believe that one of the most revealing and telling examples of capitalist propaganda is the "Drink CocaCola" propaganda. By definition, this is not something you need but something you want or are convinced of wanting. Telling people all over the world to 'drink' CocaCola is, in this editors opinion, a clear example of propaganda. Please discuss. CT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1028:838E:18D2:103E:6497:3765:EEC1 (talk) 14:39, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
I would see it more as an example of Marketing, aimed at convincing potential customers that their product is great or superior to other similar products. The purpose is to increase sales and turn up a profit, which frankly is what every company has to do to stay in business.
The example lacks a main element of propaganda, the use of the method to deliver ideological and political messages. To simplify matters, the aim of propaganda is usually to convince people to join a particular cause, to present its leaders in the best possible light, and to present the ideological opponents in the worst possible light. When it works well, it can change the perceptions of entire populations and give birth to mass movements. Most marketing campaigns do not aim so high. Dimadick (talk) 15:10, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Corporate Propaganda
This section could be cleaned up. It is definitely worth having but it reads as the basic narrative from The Century of The Self and could be dramatically improved. MHP Huck (talk) 00:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Propaganda had a bad name before Hitler and the Soviet Union
Under the "Types" heading, I removed the statements claiming that the negative connotation of the word "propaganda" was due to its use by the Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany. Those statements had been marked with a "citation needed" tag since June 2012. I know of no evidence for them. Indeed, Harold Lasswell's assessment in 1928 seems to refute the idea: he reports that the term had fallen out of favor due to public consciousness of its use by "propaganda bureaus" in democratic countries, citing by name the American Committee on Public Information which operated from 1917 to 1919. I have edited the section accordingly, quoting Lasswell. Poluphemos (talk) 21:58, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
This page is really rough
Some of this writing is pretty painful. I'm doing some minor clean-up here and there, but certain paragraphs should be completely struck. In the Social Psychology section, the paragraph beginning with "Social cognitive theories suggest..." is US-centric and POV, and the reference links vaguely to a fact-checking website.
In the Children section, I struck the sentence that said "Children's vulnerability to propaganda is rooted in developmental psychology" because it makes no sense. (Did the author mean to say that developmental psychology has a lot to say about children's vulnerability to propaganda? And if so, where are the references?) SlickVicar (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Likewise, I gutted the section on corporate propaganda because it wasn't about corporate propaganda at all. It focused on Bernays, who the author says "literally wrote the book on the topic" (a tone issue). I also found the section difficult to follow, not having read the book. Perhaps if the author thinks Bernays still has a place on the page, the "Models" section is a better fit? SlickVicar (talk) 16:04, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
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