Talk:Philippa York

A fact from Philippa York appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 May 2005. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Scottish cyclist Robert Millar finished fourth in the 1984 Tour de France, the best ever finish by a British cyclist?

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Recent changes

I have made the page a little more attractive (i think) and added Millar's Palmares. I also added some images I have of Robert riding.

--Chisa12345 21:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My recollection was that Millar was 2nd to Steve Lawrence in the British road race championships in 1978 (not first). The next year was a repeat 2 man breakaway but this time Millar got the better of Lawrence. When asked how he out sprinted the better sprinter he said something along the lines that he pummeled him before the finish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.188.138.158 (talk) 19:07, June 12, 2007

Hi,

The thing about none of Robert's teammates knowing about Robert's wedding or the fact he even had a gilrfriend is preposterous. Sylvie is actually Pascal Simon's sister in law so there were many, many articles in the French press (L'Equipe, Velo magazine) mentioning this as early as 1983... The whole cycling scene knew that Robert was dating Pascal's sister in law... Phil Anderson's comment is but a cheap joke that shouldn't be in the middle of a Wikipedia article.

Phillipa York

Would anyone mind if I deleted the "today known as Phillipa York" part? I don't think tabloids are the most reliable sources. I mean...as far as I know, bat boy doesn't exist. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.72.53.76 (talk) 04:49, July 9, 2007

In the book "In Search of Robert Millar" it is obvious that talk of Robert being a woman was taken out of context. Somebody created a false rumour and reporters mentioned it to former friends of Robert. At the time, they leapt to his defence by saying, IF it was true then they wouldn't care. This has since been used as evidence that he was a woman. It is known that Robert is not a woman and has been seen many times (since his so-called disappearance). He may have long hair and gained a little upper body fat for the Tae Kwon Do he now takes part in but that does not make him a woman. So all the Robert Millar haters can find someone else to put down. The only Phillipa in Robert's life is his DAUGHTER.

While the Daily Mail article itself seems to have been taken off the site, the photo of Robert Millar and the woman it is claimed that he has become remains on the Daily Mail website [1]. --Timtak (talk) 02:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A very poor use of PhotoShop. There is a photo in the book that is said to have started the scurrilous rumours but it does not look a bit like that faked photo. The photo in the books shows Robert with long hair but having put some weight on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.159.244 (talk) 12:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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All a load of bollocks, dreamed up by some Spaniards to put down Robert for attempting to win La Vuelta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.159.244 (talk) 21:51, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Latest news on transition to Philippa York http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/a-statement-from-cyclingnews-contributor-philippa-york/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.245.48.81 (talk) 18:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect, Philippa York has never competed as a professional cyclist, and as such has never figured in the start or finish lists of any professional cycling competitions. The insistance of certain users to retroactiviely apply York's identity to the racing career of Robert Millar is, while surely well-intentioned, misleading and factually incorrect at best, and would appear to contradict York's own perspective on her transition:

"Asked how she has dealt in recent years with the fact that the world of cycling had one image of her and she had another, York says: “I can only deal with that by putting the Robert part of my life into one box and the life I live now into another.

“What I did before wasn’t done by the person I am now so it’s not a case of changing history. I think for most people looking at this from the outside that’s the easiest way for them to process it. That’s my opinion – others may disagree and that’s fine.”"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/06/philippa-york-gender-transition-cyclist-robert-millar

First winner

Millar was the first British winner of a classification in a major tour (Giro, Tour, Vuelta) and not the only winner. Malcolm Elliott won the points jersey in the tour of spain circa 1990. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Barry Roubaix (talk • contribs) 11:53, July 12, 2007.

Elliott won the first stage of La Vuelta and had the points jersey for one stage. Elliott did not "win" the jersey ie. held it after the tour had ended. By your logic Barry Hoban was the first to "win" the green jersey in the Tour de France. No he did not. He held it. Mark Cavendish was the first to win the green jersey in the Tour de France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.159.244 (talk) 10:18, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The first comment is corrct - Elliott won the points jersey in the 1989 Vuelta- see 1989 Vuelta a España. --Bcp67 (talk) 14:57, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Missing image?

There's a comment "Millar (right) with Laurent Fignon" at the top of the infobox which seems to imply an image that is no longer present. Can anyone please sort this out...?

--R J Sutherland 18:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done Severo^TC 18:41, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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