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13:24:38, 5 June 2017 review of submission by Rhish

I've added a range of published articles about her could you review these? —Preceding undated comment added 13:24:38, 5 June 2017

22:26:40, 19 June 2017 review of submission by Helen1921


I'm not sure why you are saying that the newspaper articles are not reliable sources. Many are too old to be found online but they definitely exist and are published sources. This organization has a very long history. What kind of sources are you looking for?

06:12:28, 21 June 2017 review of submission by Queensonu


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I have submitted my Wikipedia page 28 days ago by the name "Farah Siddiqui Matin" but till now it has not been published or reviewed? can I know the reason please?


Can You please review this draft?

Hello SwisterTwister. I am not sure whether or not to approve Draft:Mitchell Kummen. What do you think? Eddie891 (talk) 12:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]



Request assistance for Draft:Unigma

User:CorbuleacM (talk) - 12:20, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SwisterTwister,

I've added two more independent sources to Draft:Unigma. All of them are unique now. I've read and followed Wikipedia guidelines and I am trying for more than a year to get the page published. Please let me know.

Best regards,

Mihai.

Your autopatrolled user right

Hi ST! Unfortunately I must notify you that as per this WP:AN discussion, your autopatrolled right has been removed as a community decision. I know it was done a month ago and that you know about it already, but I'm just leaving a message here in the spirit of fairness to make it "official", since Samwalton did not. No hard feelings, and I hope this will not deter you from continuing to create quality encyclopedic content! :)  · Salvidrim! ·  15:17, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AfD notice

Hello. You participated in the AfD discussion for Zhang Shang [1]. Another article about the same subject is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Chang. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:19, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

13:50:18, 28 June 2017 review of submission by Lukendo


Hi, I am confused, this has not been accepted as it does not have independent recognition. In the United Kingdom since 1901 The British Psychological Society (BPS) is the recognised body for Accrediting Psychometric Tools and Training for publishing. Identity is a Personality Profiling Tool Accredited by the British Psychological Society and as such users have to have a Level 2 Test User: Occupational Qualification to purchase and to interpret the tool. The BPS have extremely strict criteria and ongoing accreditation reviews and would not give their Accreditation if the Identity Tool did not reach their standards and verification requirements. Identity has been Assessed by and is registered with the British Psychological Society Psychological Testing Centre (PTC).

Hope this helps, many thanks.

Page about musicologist Paul-Gilbert Langevin, 28 June 2017


Hello User:SwisterTwister, What does mean Latin student in the third sentence? I think it's a mistake, the exact mention is student or physics student or ESPCI student. Except that, I think that the english of the page is now correct. Can you suppress the copy editing headband about grammar and style, please? Many thanks.

About musicologist Paul-Gilbert Langevin

Hello SwisterTwister,

This is the message I got from Brian Newbould: "There may be difficulty with the Wikipedia article because you wrote it yourself.  You need to get someone outside the family but with knowledge of your father and of the musical world to validate it. They could read it through and say that it is accurate (if they think it is) but perhaps change or add something here and there. I will still ask others about this."

Paul-Eric Langevin (talk) 12:20, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 02:20, 30 June 2017‎, for assistance of submission by Japan808080


Dear SwisterTwister
Thank you for your comment on my article Draft:Kingmax. Kingmax is already well known to offer SD cards, USB flash drives, Solid state drives, etc. all over the world, as we can search them on Amazon.com etc.
The business type and scope is similar to ADATA, Silicon Power and Transcend Information, as I described.
And it is also known that offers OEM flash memory products and DRAM for Lexar.
So that is the reason why we need the article of Kingmax on Wikipedia English, and we already can watch the article of Kingmax on Wikipedia Japanese.
And I think I avoid the conflict of interest regarding Kingmax or others.
So if you can, I would like your assistance for completing the article.
- Japan808080 (Talk) 02:20, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I just edited again and send a message. I understand others say displaying notability is not enough and this seems for advertising. However I displayed the group information as possible on an impartial ground, and I think Kingmax notability in the world is much more than Elecom, I-O Data, and Buffalo of Japanese company, that is not Sony, Panasonic and Toshiba.
- Japan808080 (Talk) 15:30, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nobelparma

Hi SwisterTwister. While checking on some non-free image/external link use, I came across Nobelpharma. I notice you moved the article to the draft namespace, but I'm not sure whether you are aware that the creator has moved it back. It's completely unsourced so if you feel it's not ready for the article namespace per WP:BEFORE and WP:NORG, then maybe AfD it. Otherwise, the creator will probably just keep re-creating it or moving back to the article namespace. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:20, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes, it's clearly an unconfessed paid user continuing despite a last warning for it. SwisterTwister talk 17:11, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • I am not saying that isn't true or even that the company is notable. I am only suggesting AfD or even perhaps MfD as a way to try and resolve this and have the community address your concerns. If the creator reverted you once, they are likely to do so again. I see you have warned them about this on their user talk, but maybe explaining why you moved it back to the draft namespace and what its lacking would also help. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:10, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commented on and I hope this will result in complying, including after a request of COI disclosure. SwisterTwister talk 22:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LEV KLYATIS

The new article LEV KLYATIS and its style of referencing - the style that would result from cutting-and-pasting the display version of a wiki page rather than its source - led me to do some digging. Some of the phrases match those in this version at speedydeletion.wikia.com. It also led me to spot Draft:Lev Klyatis which it appears you reviewed the most recently. I have a strong suspicion that the newest creator, User:Klasyer may be a sockpuppet of the previous creator User:Steve Vengrenovich. Do you have enough of a recollection to offer an opinion? Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 11:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This has been moved to Lev Klyatis without a redirect.- MrX 12:22, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks MrX for the update. In the absence of any other info, pretty flimsy evidence, and no substantial breach of the rules, I've tagged both users with a cautionary {{uw-agf-sock}} rather than taking it to SPI. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Linda Zecher

Hi Swister Twister. Thanks for the review. I have removed virtually all adjectives and insured that only known news sources are used. I have simplified the language somewhat. Does this now conform more closely. Alternatively, CJ Kettler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CJ_Kettler) used to work for Zecher. Should I just put a table of facts like she did? Thanks again.Tlcfl (talk) 12:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts about you...

Hello. I think you have been very helpful on determining whether any draft passes or fails the notability/AFC test, especially mine. However, losing your Autopatroller tool, being welcomed back to AfC, reporting someone to ANI, being scolded, etc. I wonder what has happened to you recently. I am staying most out of your own situation for now, but I hate to see you go over circumstances. Are you sure you're going to be okay? --George Ho (talk) 23:39, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict) Just withdraw the ANi thread and go for a walk in the sunshine. Nothing worth getting worked up over. We need you around ST and the other editor is one of the good guys. Legacypac (talk) 23:46, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your evidence presention is poor there. It's not gonna go well for you. Legacypac (talk) 00:08, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Sanjeewa Malaviarachchi

Hi Swister Twister,

Thanks for the review comments on my draft 'GSSL". Your comment was the references are not adequate o the notability. I have added verifiable 5-6 references which are reliable and true. However, if you see the Wikipedia page of the similar type of body for Geological Society of India, it have only two references, but that does not reflect the Society. However, it is accepted. Please compare it and re-review my page GSSL. Thank you for your time and waiting to see a positive reply.

Sanjeewa Malaviarachchi (talk) 03:56, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Khatib & Alami

Hello SwisterTwister. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Khatib & Alami, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 02:23, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please I didn't understand your reasons for declining my article. If you can elaborae and direct me to do it better I would appreciate. Waiting for for your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmohPoku (talkcontribs) 09:06, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 13:39:55, 5 July 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by SierraBriefings


Hello SwisterTwister,

Thank you for your notes. Just so that I'm clear, would I be able to use the information that your highlighted if it was properly quoted and cited? I wanted to use an exerpt from the book to provide some context on the material. Furthermore, I have contacted the copyright owner and ensured that I have their permission to publish this part of their book. Would that still be an issue?

Thank you again for your help,

Sierra Briefings

SierraBriefings (talk) 13:39, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Questions from Richboy999

Hello SwisterTwister,

So I'm assuming that I can ask questions on your talk page (I'm new). Anyways, is it like you guys reject the vast majority of new Wikipedia articles? Somehow I feel like that's true... Just out of curiosity. And I looked at some of the other articles that you guys were thinking of deleting. And I actually wonder why your criteria has to be so strict. Like I found a page called "Khatib and Alami" and the company employs 4000 people. So I wonder why you can't just let the draft go through. It's not like Wikipedia can be too big right.

Richboy999 (talk) 02:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 06:35:57, 6 July 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Zazpot


Hi, thanks for reviewing Draft:GoodRelations. Unfortunately, there seems to be a typo in your explanation of why you declined the AfC request. Did you mean "Major reviews if available would help here."? If so, please could you explain what you mean by a "major review"? Please WP:NOTIFY me in your reply. Thanks!

zazpot (talk) 06:35, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

10:30:59, 6 July 2017 review of submission by Ghostorchid


Hi SwisterTwister. Thanks for reviewing the article. You said:

"The best thing that would've convinced us here is majorly published books as it's not something as commonly found in authors, therefore significant."

I've added in a couple of lines to show that the books are now published by a major publisher (Hodder, part of the Hachette Book Group)[1], and that he had a three book deal with Quercus which was extended to a fourth book deal when Hodder & Stoughton took over. Then I've resubmitted the article for consideration. Thanks very much for your time and your guidance.

Ghostorchid (talk) 10:30, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

notability criteria for page Jubilee (DJ)

Hi SwisterTwister, I wanted to ask about your comment about the page for Jubilee (DJ). I included 12 sources, 11 of which Jubilee is the primary subject (either an interview with her or a review of her music). The sources include extremely reputable publications with very large followings, most of which also have a print publication- Brooklyn Magazine, The Fader, Spin, The Guardian, and Complex.

These are some of the most reputable sources that would cover a contemporary electronic musician, and I fail to see how they don't meet the notability criteria.

Luvtoucans (talk)luvtoucans

Request on 15:17:16, 6 July 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Poutnikl


about rejection of [2]

Hi, SwisterTwister,

I am afraid it was rather a discouraging laconic rejection for the 1st time submitter. I would definitely appreciate some more particular improving hints.

I admit It is difficult for the 1st time submitter to keep neutral point of view without a bias, while writing about software I am actively using. But it is not "Only an advertised business profile..", there is no advertising nor business behind that, not even for the author. Perhaps I have just unluckily chosen the style of presentation. I will try better next time.

Perhaps omitting the unnecessary detailed descriptions, and using for the beginning rather a stub-like style article ? Like [3] about the redirected BRouter = Bridge Router. I have naively thought my article could be better than this one, but what can I know ?

About independent references: There are not many existing, but I can definitely add some more. Unluckily, I have chosen such a reference style, that 3rd party references are more as external links, while references to product or product author info are often as inline citation to support mentioned ideas. So it may look as solely relying on the author. I admit I may struggle with notion of notability.

Poutnikl 15:17, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Poutnikl 15:17, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


Hi, SwisterTwister, thanks for your help on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Chad_Lefkowitz-Brown article. After your comment, I added a review from the NY Daily News where the subject headlines the article. Let me know if that will suffice. Thanks! Stephanie.sanz1932 (talk) 18:41, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tracker Software Page

Hi,

I just created my first article for Wikipedia - Tracker Software - which is about a company in my hometown. I went to considerable lengths to get the information for this article, write it, reference it and take photographs. In order to do this I used the pages of similar companies for this page. Please see the Wikipedia pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Software

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Systems

I do not understand why the page I created is considered an advertisement, when it is based on these pages, which are permitted in Wikipedia. Can you please give an explanation?

Thanks.

Sean SeanG007 (talk) 22:55, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your fast reply. If what you are saying is true, then why are those other pages still up on Wikipedia?

Sean

SeanG007 (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some further changes to the Tracker Software page and removed the links that relate to the main website of the company. Please review. Thanks, Sean

SeanG007 (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

23:35:23, 6 July 2017 review of submission by Doramensah1971



What do you mean by the subject does not meet the notability standards. All the articles I added focus on the subject. I can add 100s more. This is one of the biggest stars in the Nigerian film industry!

23:56:14, 6 July 2017 review of submission by Doramensah1971



I've added a few more and resubmitted it. There're so many articles about him I don't know which ones to use. Caan I get help if it's declined?

[4] was a pretty subjective call. Just pass this one please, it's got a long history and the guy is notable with significant coverage. Legacypac (talk) 00:00, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

18:20:13, 7 July 2017 review of submission by KBVI




I am genuinely confused as to why the article I wrote about attorney Catherine M. Stanton was rejected. I have seen many similar articles about many other attorneys on Wikipedia.

I provided legitimate news sources about attorney Stanton. The article is not an advertisement. It's about an accomplished, female lawyer in the highly competitive market of New York City.

Any additional feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

KBVI

18:21:24, 7 July 2017 review of submission by KBVI




I am genuinely confused as to why the article I wrote about attorney Catherine M. Stanton was rejected. I have seen many similar articles about many other attorneys on Wikipedia.

I provided legitimate news sources about attorney Stanton. The article is not an advertisement. It's about an accomplished, female lawyer in the highly competitive market of New York City.

Any additional feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

KBVI

KBVI (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

18:21:45, 7 July 2017 review of submission by KBVI




I am genuinely confused as to why the article I wrote about attorney Catherine M. Stanton was rejected. I have seen many similar articles about many other attorneys on Wikipedia.

I provided legitimate news sources about attorney Stanton. The article is not an advertisement. It's about an accomplished, female lawyer in the highly competitive market of New York City.

Any additional feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

KBVI

KBVI (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(KBVI (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC))[reply]

18:22:00, 7 July 2017 review of submission by KBVI




I am genuinely confused as to why the article I wrote about attorney Catherine M. Stanton was rejected. I have seen many similar articles about many other attorneys on Wikipedia.

I provided legitimate news sources about attorney Stanton. The article is not an advertisement. It's about an accomplished, female lawyer in the highly competitive market of New York City.

Any additional feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

KBVI

KBVI (talk) 18:22, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(KBVI (talk) 18:22, 7 July 2017 (UTC))[reply]

18:58:36, 7 July 2017 review of submission by Poutnikl


I admit I am very confused now, if and how can I ever improve the references to meet the criteria, or if I should ever try.. :-(. Perhaps this my first attempt will be my last one. Why is the single source PC Magazine in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_router considered better than wiki database of OpenStreetMap, combined with multiple admitedly less notable sources ?

A barnstar for you!

The No Spam Barnstar
for contribution. Light2021 (talk) 17:23, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

19:05:13, 8 July 2017 review of submission by Heystack



Would you please review William M Gayton once again? We are not sure why there are other "Scouts" that have Wikipedia pages that haven't held Director of Scouting positions nor have they been involved w/ as many decisions. Thank You!

10:35:22, 9 July 2017 review of submission by Jamesrawson79


thanks for taking the time to review the draft. I am just having a little trouble going through and making the appropriate changes. I have a huge amount of references to notability listed, a huge amount of reviews in major newspapers and online sites as well as profiles of the subject in major articles all of which define them as a significant figure, including a BAFTA nomination. A quick google shows an endless amount of listing from notable third party sites. In my field all of this press is from the most significant sources and none are connected to the subject themselves. Can you advise on what specific changes to make here? thanks.