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Move to Burma

I propose to change Myanmar into Burma across Wikipedia because the name change from Burma to Myanmar took place by the military dictatorship and is not recognised by many citizens, organizations, and countries. The name Myanmar is highly controversial and not neutral, it is a name the military dictatorship prefers because it suits their ideology and propaganda. Dissidents and others who are not victims of the government's propaganda use Burma and I believe it is the name a free community like Wikipedia should support. Please change Myanmar to Burma. Thank you all. Burma Dissident (talk) 22:48, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Calling it Burma because you don't like the government is also not neutral. Wikipedia refers to countries by the name most commonly understood in the English language. References to this country as Myanmar have increased over time to either equal or surpass usages of "Burma", and consequently Wikipedia chose to use the former name.-- OsirisV (talk) 16:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Are you not aware that the "military dictatorship" no longer exists? How can you even still use this argument now, in 2017, a year after the NLD took power? Everyking (talk) 00:24, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also "Myanmar" is the most commonly used name in English-speaking/-writing sources/references today, though many would still write "Myanmar, the country formerly known as Burma" in articles exclusively referring to the country as "Myanmar" is now commonplace, the name change happened because it's c the de facto accepted name in English, for this same reason nobody ever uses the terms the "Republic of China" for "Taiwan", or "Ireland" for the Republic of Ireland, it's about what readers without any prior knowledge of the subject can find the most easily. Donald Trung (talk) 15:12, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Actually people do use "Ireland" to refer to the "Republic of Ireland", and not even just Irish people. The reason the wiki article for "Ireland" does not go to the ROI article is not because of common usage but instead due to it being a controversial issue, one which has been debated the crap out of both on an off of Wiki. Very few people call the country the "Republic of Ireland" except in a sporting sense, but even then, the Olympic team is "Ireland". When the press refers to the Republic, they mainly use "Ireland" except when it related to Northern Ireland. if you search for "ireland bailout" on Google, you will get 525,000 results, whereas "'republic of ireland' bailout" will leave you with 118,000. Most of the top sites in the latter are UK-based, but even for the former, the Telegraph, the Guardian and the Financial Times (each very reliable sources) all refer to Ireland as simply "Ireland". By this case also, Ireland is more common than "Éire", which is what Ireland prefer the international community referred to the country as, to the dismay of the British (I've heard the term being used on Channel 5 news in the UK at least once). As by this being argued, the case is much more strong for Burma over Myanmar. The average man in the street will be clueless to what "Myanmar" even if they like to follow current affairs. UaMaol (talk) 22:50, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right! Burma insisting the rest of the world calls it Myanmar is like Germany insisting the rest of the world calls it 'Deutschland'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.48.80 (talk) 19:38, 5 November 2017 (UTC) or China insisting on Zhongguo, or Mongolia on Mongoluls or Finland on Suomi.[reply]

Lead section

Hi Mr Regents Park, I've checked some country articles, and mostly does not list minor ethnic groups in infobox. We can find elsewhere in article sections. And in this article, minor ethnic groups are added time to time without references, without adjusting percentage. You may re-add after re-calculating the percent using some sources. Criticism in lead section should include current problems of minor ethnic groups, not highlighting only one problem, while genocide and/or ethnic cleansing currently occurred in Kachin and Shan State, death toll significantly more than northern Arakan State. Thank you. Laurence Watcher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurence Watcher (talk • contribs) 17:48, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This sentence was added (probably) during Thein Sein's government when the military said they will step down from politics. But as of 2017, after military-backed ruling party's decisive defeat in 2015 election, it did not happen. Military still take 25% stake in Parliament and control key ministries.

Thank you. Laurence Watcher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurence Watcher (talk • contribs) 02:55, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2017

Change Budddhist to Buddhist in the picture caption in the Health subsection underneath the Society section. This is a misspelling error. Ian Braudaway (talk) 17:21, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Characterization of Military Presence and influence

Per request for comment by RegentsPark I feel that my edit striking the latter portion of the first sentence of the "Military Rule..." section should stand:

"and the government has been under direct or indirect control by the military since then."

The continuing influence of the Military is undeniable, but the sentence is extraordinarily generalized, inappropriately placed in the structure of the article, and far better articulated in other sections where the information is more pertinent. The pervasiveness of the military is not omitted in any other part of the article, so this clause is unnecessary by redundancy, and the dynamics of military influence would be more appropriate to address at individualized points on the timeline, particularly given the interplay between the military and the governing bodies that evolved with time.

In addition, the sentence does not take a neutral tone. It is not factual, but instead takes a rather reductionist and somewhat accusatory viewpoint over military influence or directorial authority.

- Mkarma13

Map

The map of contemporary Burma is awful. At full size, it's unreadable, and it offers no information other than the relative locations of cities - I can see no international borders, I can't even see a coastline.

If you know of a better map (with an appropriate licence) please replace it. 81.2.68.136 (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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