User talk:Pincrete

Thanks for the thanks!

Nice to be appreciated for doing something useful once in a while! danno_uk 19:50, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Civility Barnstar

		The Civility Barnstar
		For being civil in times of strife and for tirelessly discussing with the opposition when others get tired of talking.

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Hi Pincrete. Just a note to let you know the Sexuality of Adolf Hitler article has now been nominated for GA. Thanks again for your help in the clean-up. Diannaa (talk) 16:17, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it has now passed GA review, thanks for helping to get it there. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 16:03, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...

Hi Pincrete

Thanks for the message about reverting my reversion on Godot. It's so civilised to get a message of explanation!

To be honest I reverted the edit because I felt that the editor who removed the Laurel and Hardy reference didn't 'get the joke' - but you're right, its relevance to Godot is pretty tenuous. Fair enough. Keep up the good work etc. Gravender (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

If you find time for it you can take a look at the article Gustav Laabs that I just created. Any help is appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Belated

Hello Pincrete, belated greetings and apologies for having not turning up to see off the idiotic sock-puppet accusation by Malagurski's groupie. I presume he was up to something like he and the gang of pals always are (Assume good faith unless tedious experience has taught you better, as they say). I hope his little enterprise got seen off in the manner it deserved.

I'm afraid domestic circumstances became too pressing for me to be able to carry on wasting time on the futilities of coping with people like that and there's no prospect of me being able to return to the fray for a long while. I'm very grateful that you still have the energy and determination not to give up on the endless struggle between good and nonsense. Very best wishes, and thanks for all your efforts. Opbeith (talk) 11:22, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support

	Peacemaker67 RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:01, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

credit

		The Minor Barnstar
		For not editing WP just for the barnstars. DarjeelingTea (talk) 03:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries

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Punctuation for quotes

Regarding your edits of Charlie Gard case, I suggest to review MOS:LQ. Wikipedia's style is to include the full stop within the quotation marks in cases where a full sentence is quoted. Please see MOS:LQ. (I also suggest awareness of MOS:QUOTEMARKS and MOS:APOSTROPHE, in case you're not familiar with those.) —BarrelProof (talk) 21:50, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BarrelProof my understanding of "Include terminal punctuation within the quotation marks only if it was present in the original material, and otherwise place it after the closing quotation mark. For the most part, this means treating periods and commas in the same way as question marks: Keep them inside the quotation marks if they apply only to the quoted material and outside if they apply to the whole sentence." Would mean that my edit was correct. These quotes were partial sentences. Were there some where whole sentences were quoted? If so I apologise. Pincrete (talk) 22:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there were some. One is "... or its staff from prosecution.", another is "... which is contrary to Charlie's best interests.", another is "... better for the child than making no order at all.", another is "... share a common view that further treatment would be futile.", another is "... could not undo structural brain damage.", another is "... but the alternative is that he will pass away.", and another is "... and is therefore plainly in error." Part of the wording from MOS:LQ that you quoted is a bit confusing – I find this example helpful to clarify it: Marlin said: "I need to find Nemo." In that example, the full stop applies to the whole sentence as well as the quote within it, but it is included within the quotation marks because it is a quote of the complete sentence. The explanation found at Logical quotation also seems helpful. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Salvator Mundi (Leonardo)

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Please comment on Talk:Manzanar

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Happy Holidays

	Happy Holidays
	Wishing you a happy holiday season! Times flies and 2018 is around the corner. Thank you for your contributions. ~ K.e.coffman (talk) 00:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

K.e.coffman, OUTRAGE! INDIGNATION! ....... I'm no Snowflake!. ..... Only kidding ..... thanks for the greetings and thanks for so often being the one who quietly and stoically retains their calm, good sense and neutrality in this mad-house. The same good wishes to you and yours for the holidays and for 2018.Pincrete (talk) 09:21, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! I'm sure I'll have a chance to quote this sometime in the future :-). K.e.coffman (talk) 00:40, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Z33 Icewhiz (talk) 14:01, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1RR

Note, you violated 1RR with this - diff1 diff2. Regarding your edit summary that The source uses the passive voice for the same reason as I did, not to imply that the rockets fired themselves, but because if you don't KNOW you simply present the available evidence - you are misreading the source. The title perhaps is passive. The text contains Militants in Gaza have stepped up rocket attacks on Israel since Donald Trump's...They have launched more than a dozen rockets into southern Israel over the last two weeks, the most intensive attacks since a seven-week-long Gaza war in 2014. - which is not passive. You could quibble that this source uses "Militants in Gaza" and not "Palestinians" (quibbling since the inhabitants (Militant or otherwise) of Gaza are Palestinian) - however it definitely uses the active voice. I urge you to self revert.Icewhiz (talk) 14:06, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Icewhiz, I don't believe I have violated the 1RR, the previous 'passive' construction had stood for ~~several days~~ sometime unchallenged, it was altered by Diannaa as part of a a 'copyvio' clean up. It is also the construction used in the article body. Nothing about Diannaa's edit reasons suggested that she was consciously - as opposed to inadvertently - making that change, if my reading is wrong, I will make the self-revert, but I don't believe it is. I would quibble about the difference between "Militants in Gaza" and "Palestinians", even if the former are probably the latter, or sympathetic to the latter. Either way, I think it would be preferable to identify as accurately as possible WHO was believed to be responsible, just as I would prefer to identify Israeli forces, rather than saying 'Jews' retaliated by doing xyz .... . Pincrete (talk) 14:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like me to contact Diannaa to confirm my reading of her actions? Pincrete (talk) 14:35, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa is irrelevant. You did - diff1 Pincrete, I did diff Icewhiz, you did diff2 Pincrete - all after Diannaa. You are in violation of 1RR whether you count diff1 as authorship (per the ARBPIA original author may not revert withint 24 hrs) or as a revert - they are 4 hours apart. Regarding Gazan militants as opposed to Palestinians - fire away at that if you wish to quibble (though I'm sure we'll find sources saying Palestinian - I don't think it matters much either way).Icewhiz (talk) 14:40, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa is not irrelevant if her actions were an 'admin accident', I would have no reason to believe my first edit was a revert, and did not/do not believe it was. I don't understand why it is so important to you to say 'Palestinians did it', when that is not the construction used in the sources or in the body of the article. It's hardly likely to be Chinese, but I have had no objection either to characterising the area the rockets came from as Palestinian, nor the 'militants' construction if we are not able to say exactly who fired them. Pincrete (talk) 14:59, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa is irrelevant due your action being a violation in and of itself in the last 4 hours. Regardless the article was in the active voice here - last version before revdel and here - version after revdel.Icewhiz (talk) 15:06, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If my first action was a revert, it was done in good faith at what I genuinely believed - and believe - was 'an admin accident'. Would you agree to a compromise of using 'militants' or similar. In active voice if you wish, the only reason for using passive was to avoid our being unable to identify the perps other than by their probable ethnicity. Pincrete (talk) 15:20, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm OK with Gaza militants (as opposed to Palestinian) to match the Independent's language. It should be in the active voice (as it is in the Independent's body). Rockets are not "spontaneously self-ignited" (at least not usually).Icewhiz (talk) 15:23, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Icewhiz, shall I make the change or will you? BTW, "my hair was cut today", doesn't imply it did it unaided, simply that I haven't told you who wielded the scissors! Pincrete (talk) 15:37, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You - as I would be violating 1RR to do so (and you would be rectifying the 1RR situation on your part - self-reverting). I agree that "my hair was cut today" doesn't necessarily say the scissors did it themselves, or you did it to yourself, but it doesn't preclude it either :-). Passive voice should usually be avoided where possible.Icewhiz (talk) 15:40, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from Canada's Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HNY

Happy New Year!

Best wishes for 2018, —Paleo Neonate – 01:49, 30 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

Please comment on Talk:Israel

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MehrdadFR Report

Hi Pincrete, I'm responding to your request for diffs Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#MehrdadFR here as my edit on the Administrators noticeboard is being blocked by an automated system. I have reported the block as a false positive, in the meantime here is the edit I was intending to make:

Pincrete My apologies for this, I have made the changes as you have suggested [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] 12usn12 (talk) 09:42, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]