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Pixies Reunion Sell-Outs

I have some reports of these tour stops selling out in under 5 minutes. Can anyone confirm?

I hear that they actaully have the world record now for fastest selling gigs -- referring to the recent London Brixton Academy ones. It's supposed to be something like 30seconds, or 1 minute 30 seconds. Could just be urban legend though.

It's total BS, the last shows in NY in December were sold out but you could get tickets for free just for showing up.

Kim/Kelley

The section "After the breakup" infers that Kim Deal struggled with heroin addiction. It was actually her twin sister, Kelley, who was ultimately arrested and sent to court-ordered rehab after signing for a package of heroin from U.P.S. in a sting operation. Kelley ultimately recovered, and is also in the Breeders.

take a stab at making the edit yourself :) join the fun. Kingturtle 12:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New studio album?

What's with the blurb at the bottom regarding not recording a new studio album? I haven't heard anything about it, and it seems tacked on, considering that the writing style differs greatly from the body of the article. Is it true, and if so should I, or someone else remove the Pixies from the upcoming 2004 albums list?

Yeah thats a new one on me. It doesnt say it on Pixiesmusic.com, which I find to be the most reliable source around on them. Robinoke 16:58, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay, well, I chopped it off the end.

Missing "The"

I'm being pedantic here, but shouldn't Pixies redirect to The Pixies instead of v/v? I'm too lazy to look for a Wp standard, but Beatles and Kinks seem to be set up that way. PhilipR 13:12, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Unlike The Kinks and The Beatles, it appears (the) Pixies never used the definite article with their name. There is the case of "Death to the Pixies", but you can perhaps read that as a plea not to call them "The Pixies" :) --Ryano 16:12, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Oops, I stand corrected. Thanks. PhilipR 16:23, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
What about Death to the Pixies? MacRusgail 17:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Um, see above. --Ryano 23:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There does need to be some reference to this in the article, however. The first line starts with "Pixies are...", but the balance of the article tends to prefer "the Pixies." It should be made clear in the article that the band prefer(red) not to use "the," but that the article uses it for clarity (or whatever). Exploding Boy 16:44, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In common usage, "the Pixies" is much more frequently used, as far as I can see. This article overwhelmingly uses "the Pixies", and, in my opinion, not using the definite article hampers readability: "Pixies went on tour/Pixies appeared at festival X/Pixies broke up" is just kind of silly and awkward-sounding, to me. I've changed the heading from "Pixies (not The Pixies)" to "Pixies (frequently referred to as The Pixies), which makes it clear that the official name has no definite article, while allowing for the common usage throughout the article. Anazgnos 00:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's a difference between The Pixies and the Pixies... Pixies is the name of the band, and the article title should reflect that; Pixies (band) or similar would be preferable to an incorrect name. -- Xinit 23:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Who changed the article name? Pixies was fine, and the band *never* refer to themselves as The Pixies. Also, people searching for 'Pixies' are no doubt looking for the band - why redirect to a disambig page? Why was no consensus reached, and the article just moved? I'll putting in a request for move to the old page. CloudNine 09:03, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lovering

Lovering kind of gets a raw deal in the post Pixies section. "Low" was a pretty solid alternative hit in America. Cracker had a decent first album. I mean, I liked it when I was 15. Perhaps it's no longer, or never was, hip. But that's irrelevant. Someone should add Cracker to that other magician stuff.

Are you sure you're not thinking of David Lowery (frontman of Cracker and Camper Van Beethoven)? Hoof Hearted 15:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tense

I find the tense changes in this paragraph jarring:

Francis was the group's primary songwriter and singer. He has a distinctly desperate, yowling delivery, and typically writes cryptic songs about offbeat subjects, such as unidentified flying objects and surrealism. Violent Biblical imagery and references to mental instability and incest also feature highly in much of his work. Deal contributed songs as well, and her often feathery voice acted as an oddly effective counterbalance to Francis (Incidentally, the then-married Deal was credited as "Mrs. John Murphy" on the first few Pixies records).

Would all-past or all-present (not sure about the band's post-reunion plans) be more appropriate? - PhilipR 18:14, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


How's this:

Francis was the group's primary songwriter and singer; with a distinctly desperate, yowling delivery, he typically wrote cryptic songs about offbeat subjects, such as unidentified flying objects and surrealism.

piper108 22:00, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ahead of their time?

Musically, it has been argued that the Pixies were just slightly ahead of their time.

Yes, I've heard this said too, but it would be good to have references to people who've said it. --Daf 20:44, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

except for the fact that the pixies sound was already established by the jesus and mary chain. Kingturtle 12:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And their sound was already established by the Velvet Underground and Phil Spector. Anazgnos 17:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mrs. John Murphy

I think previous versions of this article have cited Kim's nom de plume to the proper extent (last line in third paragraph). She was only credited at Mrs. John Murphy on the first two Pixies albums, and is far better known as Kim Deal. Would anyone object to removing the pseudonym from other locations in the article, particularly the band infobox? Hoof Hearted 21:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was bold and enacted this. I think it looks better now. Guinnog 19:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just a minor thing, and I guess I could have corrected it myself, but I'm not quite sure of Wikipedia policy on naming external links. Anyways, here goes. The links at the end named "Pixies Music - The Online Fan Community" and "Just Another Pixies site" refer to the same website.

The policy is to edit stuff like that yourself :) Well spotted, I've removed the duplicate. --Ryano 23:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

loudQUIETloud

I think it will be suited that someone will add the good new about the Pixies documentary, loudQUIETloud. It has already an official site and it also appears in the IMDb

Copyrighted material

Pixies fans: I've noticed that someone added copyrighted material to Frank Black and Kim Deal. Rather than delete it, we'd like to replace it with non-copyrighted work; the work's already begun, [1] but please help create a decent article rather than just another stub! (And make sure you don't overwrite what User:Greg Godwin has already done!) -- Sam

The Breeders

I'm concerned that The Breeders reads like a press release, could be copyright, but its not from All Music Guide like the others, so It could be a well written original. Greg Godwin

"Earthy sex appeal"

This is terrible: "and her earthy sex appeal attracted more than a few male fans"

HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!

Pixies has been evaluated according to the Featured Music Project criteria, most recently affirmed as of this revision. The article's most important issues are listed below. Since this evaluation, the article may have been improved.

The following areas need work to meet the criteria: Comprehensiveness - References - Format/Style
The space below is for limited discussion on this article's prospects as a featured article candidate. Please take conversations to the article talk page.
  • Comprehensiveness: Outside of the lead, there's little on style, influences or legacy
  • References: Allmusic alone is not sufficient, needs inline citations and print/scholarly works
  • Format/Style: Remove trivia, general copyedit, trim external links and see alsos
  • Pics are good, more would be nice, consider switching the free and fair pic, or removing the fair one altogether (since part of the justification for the fair use pic is that there is no free alternative, which, in this case, there is).
  • Samples are okay, but more may be necessary and they should be worked into the article
Pruned the "reunion" section. Apart from questionable info in leading statements, there seemed to be a tendency to list every single festival date and television appearance in exhaustive detail. Condensed into a brief, broader overview. Also updated new album news. Anazgnos 22:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA nomination

I saw that the original GA tag was placed in Dec 2005. However, after reviewing history logs on this page and over at WP:GAC, I can not find any sufficient proof that the article was actually reviewed for GA criteria. I have submitted it for review. Agne 18:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Passing

Yeah that was deservedly a Good Article, maybe you could condese th Pop Culture section, I don't know why there was no evidence of it being passed in the first place though

(The Bread 11:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

DVD's

The Pixies have released four DVD's since they reformed but they dont appear to be in the article. There is the best of DVD, and three tour DVDs which I noticed in a record store yesterday. Is there a reason why these are not mentioned? Robinoke 11:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The Pixies → Pixies – The band always refers to themselves as Pixies rather than The Pixies, and people typing in Pixies (which is the band's official name) are now lead to a disambig page (which discuss *singular* versions of the word). All links from other articles will now be at that disambig page, and no consensus was reached beforehand - while in the middle of the article being a FAC! CloudNine 09:09, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion

nobody calls them "pixies". someone wouldn't say "right now my favorite band is pixies", that just doesn't make sense. a "the" is without a doubt implied before their name. 67.172.61.222 04:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong, the band do. What's on the front of every album? Pixies, not The Pixies. However, I'm happy with (for the moment), Pixies (band), but there really was no reason to move Pixies in the first place. CloudNine 08:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Used in Fight Club?

Wasn't Where is my Mind the last song in Fight Club? I can't remember, but if it was, it seems like it would be one of the most important movies to go under "in popular culture."

haha i just read the section on fight club, sorry about that

Definite article

The fuss over the definite article is silly. No, it's not part of the name, just as "the" isn't part of "the United States" or "the White House" or "the ACLU" or "the University of Arizona", or "the Moon", but it is still used as per standard English (i.e. "the" or "The" depending on context, etc.).

To settle it, look at any quote from Frank Black:

"I'd love to see someone do their doctorate on The Pixies. Then we might discover something."

"I can listen to a Pixies record and say, 'Oh yeah, there is some Iggy Pop impersonating right there.'"

Bands incorporating "The" into their name (the way books and films traditionally do) are a modern-day quirk. The Pixies (that is to say, the Pixies) don't do anything out of the norm.

Just putting that silly issue to bed. ☮ —tilde 01:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have articles at The Beatles, The Kinks, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Cure, The Smashing Pumpkins, The Black Eyed Peas, and countless others. Don't forget The Band, either. We still say "a Beatles record," but everyone knows the group is The Beatles. This is not as clear-cut as you imply. Dekimasu 09:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brodie Foster Hubbard fact

I don't think that:

Brodie Foster Hubbard, who has been compared vocally to Frank Black, is often seen wearing a Pixies t-shirt in concert, and has covered "Wave of Mutilation" in performance, as well as songs from Black's solo efforts such as "Billy Radcliffe."

has a place in the article. There are tons of artists who are fans of the Pixies and incorporate lyrics and songs of theirs into their concerts (for example, Dave Grohl, Eddie Vedder [2]). The best place for this is in the Brodie Foster Hubbard article - as personally, I don't want the legacy/popular culture section turning into a bulletpoint list again like it used to be. CloudNine 10:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

        • Nope, it's spam, leave it out. We don't need to mention every artist who has ever claimed to be influenced by the Pixies. We'll use chart success and album sales as a barometer. The artists mentioned, David Bowie, Radiohead, U2, Nirvana, Weezer, and Blur, have all sold a lot of records. Anazgnos 20:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Band Infobox

Would anyone mind if I edited the band's infobox to separate the Studio albums from the live albums from the best-ofs? For clarity's sake. (The singles need no change, I don't think.) -EmperorNortonX 8 October 2006 (I don't know how to convert to UTC time...)

Hi, I tried a couple of times to add a link to Frank Black's new blog at http://mog.com/frank_black, but it fell off. What can I do to get that link on this page? Anything? Just trying to get the word out, thanks -jess (newbie, obviously) 14 October 2006

I removed it because I felt it was more on-topic in the Frank Black article. By the way, use ~~~~ to add your name at the end of a comment. CloudNine 19:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Instrumentation

Thank you so much to whoever added the Pixies instrumentation info. I always wanted to know what equipment they used to help them achieve their special sound, and I wish more band articles would take the time to include similar little details that music geeks like me can't get enough of.

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