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Ukraine's area needs revision

The current number is not cited. UN gives area as 603,500.

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GINI rank

To editor Karl.i.biased: I've returned to status quo ante. The onus is on you. Explain. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:21, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern or Central Europe?

On which exactly basis the article defines Ukraine as a part of "Eastern Europe"? I suggest that geographical position of Ukraine is completely suitable to name it a part of Central Europe. And this definition have to be included in Wikipedia as an alternative variant, at least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.222.146.79 (talk) 19:30, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

another fight between nationalists

To editor Chester Leszek: Why are you making an edit that a now blocked editor made previously? Are you him? The areas controlled by Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Grand Duchy of Lithuania differed and only the latter seems applicable to Ukraine. Chris Troutman (talk) 06:09, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because he was right? Are you attempting to deny Ukraine was under the Poland-Lithuanin Commonwelath? -Chester Leszek (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:13, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You need to tell readers what the pro-Russian protesters are doing?

To editor Blast furnace chip worker: I have reverted you because the URL you provided from Hromadske.TV doesn't back up what you claim. Your words evince a partisan outlook. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:30, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The the URL I provided from Hromadske.TV do back up what I claim. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 20:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not from what I see. I reverted you again because this cite not only doesn't support your claims, it looks like partisan screed. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
To editor Blast furnace chip worker: You still don't have consensus. Please revert yourself and discuss. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:13, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing to discuss. File:2014-04-17Мітинг у Донецьку 10.jpg has been added with text and link. The original text is added in the comment to the edition. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 21:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There is something to discuss. Your edits violate WP:NPOV. You are pushing an anti-Russia narrative. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:27, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, I do not do that. I just insert a photo and give a comment to it with a link to the source. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 21:35, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, your edit is unacceptable, and has been reverted. You need to gain consensus for such editing. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Blast furnace chip worker (talk · contribs) - Can you find another source? Otherwise, please reach consensus before attempting to redo this edit. --KNHaw (talk) 21:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, get us consensus. There is a photo and link. The original text one can see in the comment to the edition and translate it using google translater. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 21:46, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Blast furnace chip worker: Please read WP:CONSENSUS. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:52, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
For File:2014-04-17Мітинг у Донецьку 10.jpg the text is “A meeting against russian aggression and against separatists (colaborators) in Donetsk in 17th April 2014. Similar rallies were dispersed by local separatists and russian agents with the participation of local police.”
  • “Перша небезпека: почалися якісь переслідування з боку проросійських активістів, друга небезпека – почалися переслідування з боку міліції.” - “The first danger: some persecution by pro-Russian activists began, the second one is the persecution by the police.” (in Ukrainian) [1] at Hromadske.TV
  • “В той час саме міліція та проросійські активісти працювали разом.” - At that time, the militia and pro-Russian activists worked together. [2] at Hromadske.TV [3] at 112 Ukraine
  • “проте на виході з площі Леніна на патріотів напали сепаратисти. Масштабна кривава бійка була досить тривалою, в ній постраждали кілька людей.” and “ міліція цьому ніяк не заважала“- "however, at the exit from Lenin Square, separatists attacked patriots. A large-scale bloody fight was long enough, several people were injured.” and “ the police did not interfere with this” [4] at 112 Ukraine (in Ukrainian) and [5] (in English)
  • “ завозить автобусами россиян” – “to import russians by many buses” [6] at Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (in Russian)
  • [7] at Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. (in Ukrainian)
And the additional text for the another photo in this chapter is “It is characteristic that the meetings in the city of Donetsk were organized by agents from Russia. They were held on weekends only.” or “It is characteristic that the meetings in the city of Donetsk were organized with participation of agents from Russia. They were held on weekends only.”
Links for the first sentence are
  • ”а рядом, в твоем доме, начинается беспредел каких-то заезжих чуваков, которые пришли и начинают топтать своими грубыми и грязными ботинками все, что мы считаем родным.” – "And beside you, in your house, some foreign dudes are starting the chaos, they are those who have come and begin to trample by their rough and dirty boots everything that we consider native. (in Russian) [8]
  • “Місто вже було затоплено агресивними приїжджіми з Росії” – “The city has already been flooded by aggressive visitors from Russia”. (in Ukrainian) [9] at 112 Ukraine
  • “значний відсоток людей не з Донецька чи Донецької області, а з Ростовської та інших областей РФ.” – “big percentage of people who are not from Donetsk or Donetsk region, but from Rostov and other regions of the RF.” – [10] at 112 Ukraine (in Ukrainian)
  • “ Большинство вышедших на площадь дончан тогда еще не осознавали, что против них задействована военная машина России и предавшие Украину местные спецслужбы.” – “ Most of the Donetsk residents who came to the square did not realize then that the Russian military machine and the local special services that had betrayed Ukraine were being used against them” [11] at Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. (in Russian)
Link for the second sentence is
  • “проросійських мітингах щосуботи і щонеділі.” – “ pro-Russian rallies every Saturday and Sunday” [12]
In addition, there is no need to give a link to the photo if there is a simple text, so the photo is added with a simple text. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 17:36, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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