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February 2018

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April 2018

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Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at James Comey, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 13:55, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please be aware there's an active remedy on James Comey limiting reverts to 1 per 24 hours. EvergreenFir (talk) 13:58, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

marking edits as minor

You might want to turn off the auto "minor edit" marking, since you're not making minor edits.Volunteer Marek (talk) 01:11, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Neilen. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:04, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seraphimblade please check the most recent edits I made to the articles for Peter Strzok, James Comey, and Dismissal of James Comey. I added reliable sources for any of the information I added or edited. Can you please explain why you banned me when I was simply trying to contribute clearly accurate RS data into articles to make them more objective (many articles which cover current political issues suffer from omission bias). If you look at what transpired several users swooped in to remove the accurately and reliable sourced data (usually within a few hours). I'm not sure why but it seems based on their edit histories that these users are strong opponents of Donald Trump. Can you please help me understand why I was banned and the other users who edit-warred and removed the RS data that I added were not? Thank you. Neilen (talk) 02:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Seraphimblade I see what you're saying but the issue I have is that when users who have a clear and blatant anti-Trump POV (don't take my word for it - just read their own statements and read through their edits) swoop in and remove RS and NPOV material it should be pretty clear what's going on. Why did you topic ban me from editing post 1932 political articles, but not these clearly biased users who seem to want to censor Wikipedia? That is what seems very unfair to me. I now understand how strictly enforced the 1RR rules are for these specific articles and promise to not violate them in the future. I'm not asking you to unblock me from the 24 hour ban (unless you want to) but to ban me from editing on any post 1932 political articles seems extremely harsh and unfair (especially since this is the first time I'm encountering this 1RR issue and just started contributing to Wikipedia two months ago). I'm asking for this unfair ban to please be lifted. In the future if I happen to disobey the 1RR rules for those articles you can ban me permanently. All of my edits were made in good faith. I disobeyed the 1RR rules because I was upset about what appears to be blatant bias going on with users on these articles but I now understand how the rules are enforced. Neilen (talk) 04:42, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018

To enforce an arbitration decision you have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

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Please check the most recent edits I made to the articles for Peter Strzok, James Comey, and Dismissal of James Comey. I added reliable sources for any of the information I added or edited. Can you please explain why you banned me when I was simply trying to contribute clearly accurate RS data into articles to make them more objective (many articles which cover current political issues suffer from omission bias). If you look at what transpired several users swooped in to remove the accurately and reliably sourced data (usually within a few hours). I'm not sure why but it seems based on their edit histories that these users are strong opponents of Donald Trump. Can you please help me understand why I was banned and the other users who edit-warred and removed the RS data that I added were not? Thank you.
You were clearly advised that the articles were under a one revert per 24 hour restriction. You repeatedly violated that restriction even before the matter was at AE, and then proceeded to continue the edit war even while it was there. If several other editors have reverted you, that means it's time to head to the talk page, not carry on making the disputed edit. Maybe you can gain some experience editing in less contentious areas first, but you clearly can't edit in such a sensitive area without causing quite a lot of disruption. Do some editing elsewhere for a while, and maybe after you've gained some experience we can see about giving you another go, but please be aware that articles go under restrictions such as 1RR for a very good reason and it is strictly enforced. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:48, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Seraphimblade I see what you're saying but the issue I have is that when users who have a clear and blatant anti-Trump POV (don't take my word for it - just read their own statements and read through their edits) swoop in and remove RS and NPOV material it should be pretty clear what's going on. Why did you topic ban me from editing post 1932 political articles, but not these clearly biased users who seem to want to censor Wikipedia? That is what seems very unfair to me. I now understand how strictly enforced the 1RR rules are for these specific articles and promise to not violate them in the future. I'm not asking you to unblock me from the 24 hour ban (unless you want to) but to ban me from editing on any post 1932 political articles seems extremely harsh and unfair (especially since this is the first time I'm encountering this 1RR issue and just started contributing to Wikipedia two months ago). I'm asking for this unfair ban to please be lifted. In the future if I happen to disobey the 1RR rules for those articles you can ban me permanently. All of my edits were made in good faith. I disobeyed the 1RR rules because I was upset about what appears to be blatant bias going on with users on these articles but I now understand how the rules are enforced. Neilen (talk) 04:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Response to MelanieN

MelanieN made numerous false claims about me on another user talk page. Just wanted to clear up some things here:

1. all of the edits I made were reliably sourced. If one or two were not, the information was still entirely factual and was sourced from another RS somewhere else in the article. 2. the edits were only "disruptive" because other users kept removing the reliably sourced and NPOV edits I was trying to contribute to the article (all in good faith but apparently none of that matters to users like you) so I was obviously upset and was just trying to re-add the accurate data 3. I addressed an appeal to a user named NeilN because I mistakenly thought he/she was in charge of the entry concerning me on the Arbitration Requests page because the entry directly above mine for user VendixDM was being handled by NeilN 4. Yes my username is similar to NeilN but it's just a strange coincidence. I chose my username because it is an anagram of Eileen (minus one E). 5. you say that I edit with a "POV pro-Trump" but of course you never call out or criticize all of the editors who clearly edit with an anti-Trump bias, somehow that's OK with you and other admins here...I wonder why that is? Neilen (talk) 09:50, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]