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Mass killings under Communist regimes

In 2011, the above linked page was placed under indefinite protection. As you were intimately involved with the placing the consensus required notice, you are doubtless aware of the article's contentious history. As the gold padlock was placed so long ago, and as progress has stalled on the article, with only one substantive edit request having been made in the past six months, I wonder if it is not the time to discuss a gradual scaling back of protection.

How might I go about opening such a discussion? Where would be the appropriate forum to do so? I'm contacting you because you were an involved administrator, but if you aren't able to answer my question, where might I turn to receive an answer? I'm also leaving a similar message at User talk:Timotheus Canens, who was also involved in the controversy those many years ago. Thanks for your time. schetm (talk) 04:38, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

You can either ask Timotheus Canens to unprotect it, or start a discussion at WP:RPP. Sandstein 11:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

The last time Timotheus Canens was contacted, he said he wouldn't unprotect it as long as your restriction remained in effect (on the argument that 'consensus required' is effectively equivalent to full protection anyway) and directed anyone with requests to contact you. Given that the sandbox page and talk page have both been stable for the past few years, I think it's safe to remove your restriction at this point; the specific conflict that led to that restriction has long since died down, and it can now be safely covered by the standard discretionary sanctions for the general topic area (which, after all, are much more refined and better-enforced today than they were back in 2011.) --Aquillion (talk) 19:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, done. Sandstein 21:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sandstein,

Can you please clarify if you both are talking about "a gradual scaling back of protection" or you removed all restrictions completely, and the article can be edited in a standard way?

Paul Siebert (talk) 14:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

All existing restrictions are lifted. The page can be edited normally but remains subject to discretionary sanctions. Sandstein 17:03, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks.Paul Siebert (talk) 17:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't think either of us can lift NuclearWarfare's 1RR/day from 2010, so I've restored the 1RR edit notice on the page. T. Canens (talk) 08:54, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Any administrator is welcome to lift that restriction at their discretion (though I would advise against it if we are just now removing full protection?). NW (Talk) 23:37, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Civility in infobox discussions: Motion

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

Remedy 1.1 of the Civility in infobox discussions case is amended to replace dot point 3: *making more than one comment in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article. with the following: * making more than one comment in a discussion, where that discussion is primarily about the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Civility in infobox discussions: Motion

Mike Aho

What can I do so that my name is not deleted from wiki? I can delete my bio if that is the issue. that bio is taken from IMDB which was written by Endemol Shine America. I would love to get the banner taken away that my article is up for deletion because it looks bad. I won't add info or use this as a personal web page now that I am very clear on the rules. Can you help or suggest something I can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeaho (talk • contribs) 18:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

You can comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Aho (2nd nomination) and discuss how you meet our inclusion criteria, WP:BIO. Sandstein 19:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Request to recreate deleted page

Sandstein, I would like to re-create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Rosh HaShanah death by stone-throwing, which caught my attention by recently coming back into the news cycle. (I have learned a great deal about editing over the past three years, and now create better pages and argue less.) Reasons are: 1.) You and several other editors suggested that it could be redirected to Palestinian stone-throwing#Deaths and casualties, but this merge was blocked by editors on that page by the creation of a rule limiting mentions of deaths caused by rock throwing to bluelinked pages. 2.) Ongoing coverage of this incident as the first killing in wave of violence that began in September/October 2015, and as one of the triggers for the Israeli decision to erect a security barrier between Jabel Mukaber and Armon Hanatziv, and, 3.)Perp (convicted,) turned out to have carried out a firebombing attack on Israeli target in 2014, and he has received ongoing press attention because he is one of a small group on a short list of Arab citizens of Israel drawing attention because of the new policy being pushed by Interior Minister Aryeh Deri to revoke the Israeli citizenship of convicted terrorists including this perp. Thank you for considering this.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:34, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

You can recreate a deleted article if you can address the problems that led to its deletion. You may want to try a stub at WP:AFC first. Sandstein 13:24, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Rick Mitry

Hi Sandstein!

You closed the discussion for the request for undeletion of this page. I am still new to this wikipedia stuff and still learning.

I wanted to change the article Rick Mitry and add significant new information. I tried previously to add it to the deleted article, but i did not have the permission to do so. Could you please advise me on what step to take.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chbeaini (talk • contribs) 01:09, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

You cannot edit the article Rick Mitry on Wikipedia because it has been deleted. What you link to is another website, not Wikipedia. Sandstein 05:33, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Please explain this. It is not clear

I see that you have speedily deleted Kelly Sadler. I promise not to recreate it or make any kind of trouble. I ask that you answer the following questions to help me understand wikipedia.

Q1. Why is WP:ARBAP2 a reason for deletion. I have read it over and over and cannot see the reason for using it.

A1.

Q2. What is the reason for citing WP:BLPDELETE as the reason. WP:BLPDELETE says "Page deletion is normally a last resort....Summary deletion is appropriate when the page ...cannot readily be rewritten. To me it can be rewritten.

A2.

Q3. Why did you decide on an article that you already deleted instead of letting another administrator do it? It may seem that you feel so strongly about it that you want to approve your original decision. Is this intentional?

A3.

Your original reason is that it is contentious but the article was not written in an overly negative or overly positive tone.

Help me understand Wikipedia by explaining your actions by answering the 3 questions above. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowdung Soup (talk • contribs) 20:17, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Q4. What does "salted" mean?

A4.

Q5. Final question. "may not be recreated unless an admin determines". Where does it say that except you saying it. I'm not challenging it. I just want to know if all deletions are like this or where it says this.

Thank you for not ignoring these questions. That is what administrators are for, helping. I appreciate your help.

1. WP:ARBAP2 allows administrators to use sanctions of their own choosing as described at WP:AC/DS, which may include deletion.

2. Rewriting would need checking all the links you indifferently provided to determine which of them references which assertion. This would be slower than competently rewriting from scratch.

3. Admins routinely take actions in the same cases or repeat their admin actions; there's nothing particular about that.

4. See WP:SALTED. Regards, Sandstein 21:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Would you unsalt Kelly Sadler and also re-open your AFD (or allow recreation). I propose the following:

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Kelly Sadler is an American civil servant working for the White House as Special Assistant to the President. She previous was a journalist and columnist. She wrotes Water Cooler, a daily political blog for The Washington Times website and is a regular contributor to the Times on political issues. She has been serving as Special Assistant To The President,
 Office of Communications since May 2017.

She is most notably recognized for her recent tenure as a junior White House official who recently is alleged to have mocked Sen. John McCain's failing health and brain cancer diagnosis by stating in a closed door meeting in front of two dozen staffers, "It doesn't matter, he's dying anyway."

Education

Sadler has a BA degree in Chinese and International Relations from Hamilton College. She has a masters in broadcast journalism from Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois. She speak Mandarin Chinese and English.

Early career

Sadler worked in public relations for Kaiser Associates and later in broadcasting for Bloomberg, reporting for Bloomberg from 2009-2011. She subsequently was a reporter and editor for the Washington Times.

In addition to the Times, her work has appeared on Fox News, U.S. News & World Report, the Albany Times Union, and Bloomberg. She has appeared numerous times on political shows including the O'Reilly Factor, Hannity, and Media Buzz.

Journalism career

In January 2015, Sadler garnered significant media attention when she broke the story that political donor George Soros had given at least $33 million in one year to support activist groups during the Ferguson protests. Her story was reported in outlets including Newsmax, Fox News, RT, The Daily Mail, the New York Daily News and The Daily Beast.

In June 2015, Sadler broke the story that the Clinton Foundation had collected $26 million in donations from a fund-raising arm in Sweden at the same time the country was lobbying Clinton's State Department to forego sanctions that threatened business connections with Iran. The story received significant media attention. The report received the Society of Professional Journalists’ Robert D. G. Lewis Watchdog Journalism Award for the entry that “best exemplifies journalism aimed at protecting the public from abuses by those who would betray the public trust.” The award was the organization's highest award in its Washington, D.C. chapter.

In February 2016, the International Business Times reported that Sadler had given Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina the maximum individual campaign contribution of $2,700 in 2015. The Washington Times Executive Editor Christopher Dolan responded that this was a violation of company policy and that the paper would retroactively disclose Sadler's ties to maintain journalistic integrity.

John McCain Controversy

In May 2018, Sadler was criticized for allegedly mocking the pending death of U.S. Senator John McCain. She has not offered a public apology despite criticism from both Democrats and Republicans, including U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham. Matt Schlapp defended Ms. Sadler, "She’s also a little bit of a victim here,” Schlapp told CNN “New Day” co-anchor Chris Cuomo. Matt Schlapp is married to Mercedes Schlapp who works with Ms. Sadler in the Office of White House Communications.

Personal life

She is married to Frank Sadler, who was the campaign manager for Carly Fiorina, a CEO who ran for the Republican Party nomination for President in 2016 but lost to Trump.