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you to remain civil before you start attacking each other. I requested the article to be fully protected to stop this feud and actually talk things over. I'll gladly help search for reliable sources and help end this feud. DiverseMentality(Boo!) 06:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. I think the NNDB got in there because I was rushing to stop his insane edit war, I didn't mean to cite that. But a question: Did you read the guidelines directly above your reply? It is from the guideline for sources for BLP, and it says that blogs and personal sites WRITTEN BY the person in question are valid sources. Why wouldn't his official Myspace blog count? I'm genuinely confused by that. Can you explain how it violates the guidelines that I cited above -- i.e., "Self-published material may be used in biographies of living persons only if written by the subject himself. Subjects may provide material about themselves through press releases, personal websites, or blogs."Aroundthewayboy (talk) 07:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I never said that uncited info couldn't be removed after some time, I said it couldn't be removed IMMEDIATELY. My understanding is that in BLP (bios of living people), for legal reasons, uncited CONTENTIOUS material can be removed immediately. Uncited NON-contentious material, however, requires the usual grace period to allow people to cite sources.
Also, it is irrelevant whether Myspace is a reliable, third party, published source, because there is a special rule for biographies of living people. I have cited this rule about three times already, but to be perfectly clear: "Self-published material may be used in biographies of living persons only if written by the subject himself. Subjects may provide material about themselves through press releases, personal websites, or blogs." I didn't make the rule, I'm only following it. :) Seriously, I would have used a different source, but I had just reread the guidelines and noticed that personal cites were good sources, and it turns out he blathers on about his childhood on his official Myspace page.
Please clarify how either of these interpretations is flawed. Thanks! Aroundthewayboy (talk) 07:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, for one, there's no proof the MySpace link you providied is actually him. Who's to say that's not a fake profile? There is no verification that is actually is him. Anyone can create an account and claim to be a celebrity. This could be the real Pete Wentz, but there's no proof. There is doubt that he's the real Pete Wentz. I searched MySpace music and found no official page (note the difference here and here). MySpace is therefore unreliable. DiverseMentality(Boo!) 07:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a completely uninvolved editor, if we were to apply WP:BLP as stated, then the MySpace page is highly suspect. I would not include it due to the reason above, as the MySpace page as used does not return as a official page, and as such, we cannot tell if the person who controls the MySpace page is Pete Wentz himself. Even a search on MySpace does not return a official hit on him, except to the official Fallout Boy page. If there is any further dispute regarding the reliability of sources, I suggest that you pose a query at WP:RSN. Thanks. ThePointblank (talk) 08:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good point about the Myspace page being unverified. But if the info were on an official Myspace page, Myspace would be a valid source. I don't care about Pete Wentz (his music is horrid), but I'm interested in the abstract procedural question. Thanks. Aroundthewayboy (talk) 00:12, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As ThePointblank said, you might want to take your thoughts over to WP:RSN and see what responses you get there. As for the edit war—I've search and haven't found anything in any reliable sources about Wentz's early life. I'd suggest removing the section entirely until something can be cited. I have found a couple sources about Wentz's early career though; I'll gladly add this information when protection is lifted, but first, we must form a consensus. Do you, Aroundthewayboy, agree to remove the early life section until it's able to be adequately sourced? DiverseMentality 06:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely not. Have you even read this discussion? Most of the 'Early Life' section as it currently stands is already sourced (Chicago Magazine and Rolling Stone magazine, both eminently reliable sources). There are one or two sentences that I sourced in controversial ways because I didn't have time to devote to it. I cannot believe that you "searched and haven't found anything in reliable sources about his early life." How long did you search? Half a second? I just spent exactly twenty seconds googling, and found the following sources, which more than satisfy the criteria for RS. Please include them in the citations if you insist, but absolutely do not delete the sentences, I just don't have time to devote my entire life to this entry.
The following story in ABC News's nightline is the source for many of the original statements, about enjoying soccer and all that stuff. There are actually more details that could be included by somebody who cares. I repeat, I found this in twenty seconds by Googling "Depaul University Pete Wentz." :) Anyhow, here it is:http://www.abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Playlist/story?id=3514965&page=1
Here's another source about him studying political science at depaul: http://www.collegecandy.com/buzz/9701
Thank you for your respect in at least asking my opinion before gratuitously deleting the section, unlike the earlier edit warrior. Aroundthewayboy (talk) 03:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note how I said until it's able to be adequately sourced. Since you've brought up the sources, I'll gladly add them if you don't have time to. Can we now agree that the edit war is over so this information can be properly sourced? DiverseMentality 03:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, thanks for your patience. Please note that the links I provided are adequate sources for all the statements in the current version, plus some. Thanks. Aroundthewayboy (talk) 17:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the mysterious drama lurking behind to most innocent of pages. Here is the field where egos collide in disunity, even as they attempt to collaborate. From whence hath these proud warriors come? Where shall they go, their dispute settled? these are questions for those smarter than me. 72.160.115.101 (talk) 19:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

if he's bisexual...

then why isn't he in "the LGBt category --> bisexual musician"???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.219.229.2 (talk) 19:23, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In order to be placed in LGBT and religious categories, living people must 1.Publicly self-identify with the label in question and 2. It must be relevant to their public lives. Wentz did not use the label of bisexual in the article, and he also stated he was uninterested in men below the waist. Thus he may not actually consider himself bisexual. Unless he clarifies his statements regarding his sexuality, we should not label him anything. Those are the official rules of Wikipedia, please respect them. Asarelah (talk) 16:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I dunno. In an interview once, he stated he's "gay above the belt" and not in a joking way. Plus, he has alluded to his bisexuality. I'm not saying to put the LGBT thing back, but just telling you what I know. --Bottle-Of-Musical-Joy (talk) 04:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Need to have a Fall Out Boy career section

Although I don't like Wentz or his FOB band, I feel that this biography is incomplete if it doesn't have a section explaining the history/achievements of Fall Out Boy. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 19:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eureka! An IP deleted it on September 4, 2008, and I just restored it. See also my record on such situations. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 17:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter Fight with perez hilton

he had a fight with perez hilton on twitter about the death of michael jackson, do you guys think it should be put on the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.0.44 (talk) 07:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ethnicity hey everyone Does anyone know his specefic ethnicity? hawaiian/indian? Its really vague. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.18.232.143 (talk) 19:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect foul play - questionable entries.

Pete Wentz always thought he was an ugly child yet his mom thought he looked great Pete thought if his mom said that, it was true... but it sadly wasn't one day 5,000,000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 years later he started fall out boy he met His mother in law Patrick stump and started a band at first he wanted the songs to all say raw raw raw we are monsters I am Pete Wentz and I like butts but Patrick changed it and said Liam is coool yeah yeah you know that its truuue then Burley Burley came and Joe and they farted The End.

Edit request from 90.202.191.243, 3 June 2010

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Pete said that he wants the fact he lives 3 blovks away from the Home Alon church put on his Wiki page :) x 90.202.191.243 (talk) 13:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done I can't see that this is significant enough to be in the article, which at present does not so much as state what country he lives in. Algebraist 15:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to Pete Wentz he said no matter what, whether if he was in Fall Out Boy, he would still have been famous, because he lives near the home alone house. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.201.127 (talk) 02:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Again, relevancy? TbhotchTalk C. 02:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bl4ck C4rds Project

Most recently, Pete Wentz stated hes working on a new project called Bl4ck C4rds (Pronounced Black Cards) It was announced on his twitter not too long ago and the bands website is even up. New info is statated to be relased Late Tuesday Night July 7th. Should we add this? -anonomyous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.180.49.218 (talk) 20:15, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter, no matter the owner, is not a reliable source, especially for a WP:BLP. TbhotchTalk C. 20:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are a lot of reliable sources documenting the Bl4ck C4rds project.

Adam2201 (talk) 00:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Blcak Cards section needs come cleaning up, I don't know how to put citations in wikipedia but the section is not well put together.

its not necessary, but i think we should put it back up even though he said it jokingly. It makes it that much more amazing that its up on the page. i was watching All Time Low's dvd and when he said that "i want that on my wikipedia " i searched wikipedia and it was on here i like couldn't stop laughing- no one expects it to be on here so lets do the unexpected —Preceding unsigned comment added by Butterflyswim8 (talk • contribs) 05:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Is that trivia section really necessary?

It's mentioned that he said it jokingly, so is it really something we should keep? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.95.168 (talk) 16:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All Time Low - Straight to DVD comment

On the band All Time Low's Straight to DVD Pete Wentz stated that he wanted to have the below fact added to his Wikipedia page. -He lives 3 blocks away from the Home Alone church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.177.151.202 (talk) 06:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And what's the relevancy of add that, also, the only source is youtube, and it is not enough. TbhotchTalk C. 18:44, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I second the notion that that piece of information should be added. Pete Wentz, on camera, did say he wanted that added to his Wikipedia page. What is the harm in adding it? (October 21, 2010, 10:25pm)

Pete Wetnz, Ashlee Simpson and their child were attacked on their house, that is located near the house of Home Alone, that according to IMDb, is at 656 Lincoln Avenue, Winnetka, Illinois, USA. See how easy could someone locate a person, now if you are famous is worst. Wentz wanted that on his wiki, OK, but is not HIS wiki is HIS biography. If he believe that this is vital to his life, is his problem. TbhotchTalk C. 02:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

all-state soccer player?

Is there a source for this? all citations say the same thing, but there's never a cite to the group that named him 'all-state'. I was at the all-state ceremony for the 1996 season (his senior year) and he wasn't there, and isn't listed on the site below. It's possible he was all-state before his senior year, but I'd like to see it.

http://www.ihssca.com/IHSSCA%20Archive.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.250.29.8 (talk) 21:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Photo

Shouldn't the more current one be used? I mean, we have a more recent one, already being used on the article. Jasper420 20:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From first to last

Who relation have Pete with the band From first to last? In the song "Christmassacre" names him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemikalero9 (talk • contribs) 20:11, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know but with some searching around I think he knew the guys in that band and had something to do with phone numbers. Not of significance for inclusion in Wikipedia I don't think. Noreplyhaha (talk) 09:47, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Robot Chicken

I just saw petes name in the credits of robot chicken s5 e12 is there a way to add that, and how would i cite that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.16.223.2 (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 17 January 2012

I just want to add that Pete Wentz lives near the home alone church. He stated in All Time Low's straight to DVD while talking to Jack Barakat and said that he wanted it on his wikipedia page. Please add it. Lostinsarah182 (talk) 00:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done See the section above. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:44, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 11 September 2012

Pete Wentz lived about three blocks away from the church in the movie Home Alone. In the DVD of the band All Time Low called Straight to DVD Pete Wentz took his friend Jack from the band All Time Low to the church in the movie Home Alone. When at the Church Pete Wentz said that he wanted the fact that he lived three blocks away from the church when growing up added to his Wikipedia page. Theallience21 (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 21:19, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He is not a vegetarian.

Pete Wentz is no longer a vegetarian. He was a vegetarian for some years, he also tried being a vegan. Where are the sources that state that he is a vegetarian? This should be removed from the page. Why does it matter that his name was on the ballot of "The Sexiest Vegetarian Awards"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.142.141.149 (talk) 10:15, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

reccomend removing word 'experimental' in intro paragraph / align with other wikis

I'm making this suggestion because I was searching Wikipedia for experimental electronic music, and stumbled on this article because of this word in the intro.

The music of Black Cards is perhaps experimental compared with Pete's past bands, but has little in common with the artists cited on Experimental_music Black Cards is pop-(+electronic) in the loose sense, as in popular (gets played on the radio), and experiemental music as defined in Wikipedia is completely the opposite, by definition.

It is confusing, and also not consistant with the citations ("reggae-inspried," Rolling Stone), and the Black Cards wikipedia page ("electropop, dubstep, techno, dancehall"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 893jf8943hgkd893 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace

According to Pete Wentz's page at the Cook County Clerk's Office's Sweet Home Cook County section, he was born at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago.

Bonarae (talk) 16:28, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Best Ink?

So Pete is the host of the tv competition "Best Ink", and it should probably be put in under his non-music related section. He's been doing it for a couple years now, so I'm surprised that it's not already on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.113.21 (talk) 01:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Home Alone Church

He also said in All Time Low's Straight to DVD that he wanted the fact that he lived down the street from the church in Home Alone added to his Wikipedia.

Sarahk142 (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC) sarahk142[reply]

I recommend you to read this whole page. The fact is trivial, and it was when he was married with Simpson. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 21:00, 1 March 2014

Meagan Camper

Children -Saint Lazslo 

         -Marvel Jane
Done and thanks for the eye Cannolis (talk) 02:18, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ashlee Simpson

Child -Bronx Mowgli

Years active

Why is he listed as having been active from 1992 on? He would've been thirteen at the time. I'm not aware of any music he released before the formation of Arma Angelus in 1998. Falling and Taking (talk) 01:15, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request On 27 March 2015

An occupation needs to be added to Pete Wentz's list, and that would be 'professional memer'. Pete Wentz has been seen using memes several times on social media was well as talking about them. Below you will find examples of Pete using memes to show he is a 'professional memer'. Note, a 'professional memer' is someone who uses memes often and knows a lot about them, always in on the latest and hottest memes. A 'memer' by itself is someone who uses them casually and is not as familiar with them.

In this tweet, you can see that he is expressing a need for a meme art gallery: https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/558665564596731905

Here you can see him using a common meme which has been dubbed as 'Joe Biden Looking Out The Window': https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/563936635419512832

In this tweet, you see he is using the Richard Sherman SuperBowl meme: https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/563593436935114753

Yet another tweet (I know, I know, he memes a lot), he is using the famous meme that went viral after Katy Perry's SuperBowl performance, which as been called 'Left Shark': https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/562505565872463875

Pete has even gone as far to use his own band mates as memes, and examples will be found here: 1) https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/554137754456846336 2) https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/553336104552644608

Here, he uses another famous meme in the Fall Out Boy fanbase, one we call 'Feelie à Deux: https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/541718566501109760

Pete also embraces a meme remade with his face here: https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/529872400683634688

And Pete is seen using a meme yet again here, as well as using the wrong form of 'your', something that professional memers do often seeing as they are more focused on their memes than their grammar: https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/515904591666241536

Here you can see Pete using Kevin Hart as a meme: https://twitter.com/petewentz/status/514088023680483328

I can provide other examples if needed.
Pinkwentz (talk) 23:25, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done No evidence subject's occupation is a "professional memer". -- haminoon (talk) 01:35, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The 44th citation (for "Wentz later spoke of his suicide attempt to the support site Halfofus.com and cites Jeff Buckley's version of the Leonard Cohen classic "Hallelujah" as a song that saved his life.") has a dead link, but here's the updated one: http://www.halfofus.com/video/pete-wentz/

(Though, for the record, I'm not actually sure of the validity of the sentence I quoted from the Wikipedia article... In the video, the only thing he explicitly states as saving his life is Fall Out Boy (at around 5:50 he says "my band saved my life"). In fact, his mention of "Hallelujah" (at 2:45) is actually about that song being what he was listening to when he overdosed on Ativan.) Wearenotswans (talk) 19:06, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What words of wisdom do you have d you have for teenagers such as me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:C001:CDDD:F9C0:C181:74F6:5851 (talk) 00:18, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

School of Rock

He was on the new School of Rock tv show on Nickelodeon so we should put that on Filmography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Weber02 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2016

Wentz used use Marijuana and LSD in his first year of high school, before becoming straight edge and also after his divorce he started using drugs such as Xanax[1] [2]

Isotopeqs (talk) 01:44, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/pete-wentz-drug-problem-relapse-ashlee-simpson/
  2. ^ http://petewentz.com/post/71884260/ok-so-a-superduper-boring-update-way-to-tldr-on
Not done for now, it's unclear where exactly you want to add this. It's also unclear if the addition helps comprehension of the topic as of now. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Andy W. talk could you put his Marijuana and Acid use in his early life as he used both those drugs in his first year of high school, that's why he was rebellious and skipped school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isotopeqs (talk • contribs) 21:33, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2016

could someone put in the early life section that Wentz used use Marijuana and LSD in his first year of high school and became rebellious, before becoming straight edge and also after his divorce he started using drugs such as Xanax[1] [2]

Isotopeqs (talk) 23:25, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. nyuszika7h (talk) 14:14, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/pete-wentz-drug-problem-relapse-ashlee-simpson/
  2. ^ http://petewentz.com/post/71884260/ok-so-a-superduper-boring-update-way-to-tldr-on

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 March 2017

Please change 'now-Vice President Joe Biden' to 'former Vice President Joe Biden'. The Next Biggish Thing (talk) 10:44, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 10:50, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PETE NEVER WORKED AT SUBWAY

Pete Wintz has never worked at Subway when he was young, he said it himself: http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/interviews/a47554/fall-out-boy-pete-wentz-vma-interview/ please change that. Thanks. Capsam productions (talk) 19:17, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Is Pete Wentz still a bisexual? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.147.149.153 (talk) 02:19, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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