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Serer religion

Hi I saw your comment on Serer religion edit summary. I couldn't agree more. We have some dedicated POV pushers on Wiki who have targeted Serer and African articles in particular for their racist and anti-African agenda. I have no time for these people. Tamsier (talk) 18:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hmm...

Another single edit like this that comes anywhere close to violating one of our core pillars and one of our most sacrosanct guidelines will lead to possible revocation of your editing priveleges. Best,~ Winged Blades^Godric 14:59, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... Tell me exactly what you take issue with? Is it that what I wrote is untrue/false or is it that I didn't sugar coat it enough? If I know what you take issue with at least I know what to do moving forward. I eagerly await your wisdom. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 20:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No answer! As I thought. I gave you four days to respond and you failed to do so, which tells me you merely came to my talk page to make a silly rant rather than address the issue I wrote on that talk page. Consider this a warning. Never come on my talk page again with this foolishness or you will be reported. If you have a different view contrary to what I wrote, you should have expressed it on that talk page rather than come to my talk page with such foolishness. Let this be the last. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 02:27, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

July 2018

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved, as you did to Category:Black supremacy ‎, without good reason. They need to have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. Wikipedia has some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 22:04, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, there's no belief in witchcraft in Africa!

I'll be watching you. Johnbod (talk) 00:44, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I stated here, your edit was disingenuous. This article is about Traditional African religions. The emphasis is on the word "religions". You cannot use a Eurocentric POV to tarnish all African religious faiths. Be specific which religious faith you are referring to and add sources substantiating your claim with reference to weight. Better, create Criticism of Traditional African religions and get it off your system. And no! You won't be watching me. I will be watching you after the disingenuous edit you made at Traditional African religions. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 00:53, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing "disingenuous" about the edit - belief in witchcraft is a major part of African religious beliefs (both for believers in traditional and imported religions), as I'm sure you are perfectly well aware. Now the article is completely silent on this. It is clear from various of your edits you are pushing a POV, removing references to the imported Abrahamic religions and to less attractive aspects of TAR. I'm sure you have heard of WP:N - please observe it. Johnbod (talk) 01:02, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You still failed to mention the specific religion(s) in question with respect to sources and weight. What you did was made a blanket Eurocentric POV without regard for the scope of this article. There are many TARs which do not even practice "witchcraft" and do not even condone it in their religious traditions. However, you wouldn't know that nor would you care because you are only interested in pushing a Eurocentric POV. Further, what you may call "witchcraft" other scholars refer to as "traditional healers" and not all traditional healers are the same, even within a traditional African religion. Anyway I'm getting bored with this foolishness, so please refrain from posting on my talk page. If you have anything of value, put it in the relevant talk pages. I'm far to busy fixing and improving articles than wasting anymore of my time with such foolishness. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 01:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Languages

Hello, Senegambianamestudy,

Would you please consider adding any relevant Wikipedia:Babel boxes to your userpage? It's often difficult for editors to find people who speak any African languages, and Babel boxes are one of the ways we use to find people with language skills. Even people who can read and write at a beginning level are difficult. For example, there are more than five million people who speak Wolof, but I can only find three editors who speak it (all at a beginning level) who have edited the English Wikipedia during the last year. There aren't even that many Wolof speakers at the Wolof language Wikipedia right now.

Thanks for considering it. (Please {{ping}} me if you need help; I'm not watching this page.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:11, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello WhatamIdoing, I'm terribly sorry but I can't speak Wolof at all. I only learned a handful of phrases when I visited Senegal but I'm not fluent in it. I just love Senegambian history and culture and studied it but can't speak any of the local languages. I think the extent of my Wolof is na nga def (how are you?) and mang fe (I'm okay). Lol. It's slightly better than that but I wouldn't even call it level 1. I'm surprised that you can't find Wolof speakers at Wolof Wiki. That's a bit strange! Senegambianamestudy (talk) 21:47, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are very few active users there. It's a similar case for several African-language Wikipedias. BTW, if you're interested in checking out the situation, then you can put Special:ActiveUsers into the search box on any Wikipedia. (I usually find the Wikipedia by going to the article here about the language that interests me, scrolling to the very end, and finding the box with a link to it.) The English name always works for Special: pages. w:wo:Special:ActiveUsers is the current list at the Wolof Wikipedia. Nobody in that list with a "blue link" username speaks Wolof, and at least one of the red-linked editors doesn't either. I assume that the Wikipedias for most languages in the Senegambian area are in the same shape.

Once you know about editing, it's possible to do some useful things at a wiki whose language you don't speak. I've added photos of people (because the caption can be just the person's name), and some kinds of obvious vandalism are still obvious. I wish we could find more people who could actually write in those languages. Even simple sentences would improve things. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's pretty weird. It looks like the names on your link are bots. I just did a search and there are definitely Wolof speakers there such as this person named Ibou. However it looks like he hasn't edited for nearly a year going by his contribution history[1]. I also remembered reading somewhere long time ago that User:Tamsier is fluent in Wolof, Serer and English and possibly a bit of French. Sadly s/he has retired and was indefinitely blocked some years ago on English Wiki. I left them a message on their talk page few weeks ago literally begging them to appeal the block and come back as we have lost many editors of their caliber on Project Africa but they have not responded. I even left them a message on their French Wiki talk page asking whether they have any more Senegambian historic images but they have not responded. Following your lead, I did a search on Wolof Wiki and found that s/he used to be an editor there [2] but have not edited since 2016. We keep losing valuable editors here. Sorry. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 23:56, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's unfortunate. And it's not just Wolof, of course; it's most of the smaller languages all over the globe. I've helped out a little at the Haitian Creole Wikipedia for a couple of years now. I like it: the small wikis are so quiet that you can literally do almost whatever you want, because there's almost no one there to complain, and if you can write two sentences about any given article, then whoever is there is likely to just cheer you on instead of giving you a big hassle over whether your sources are ideal or your formatting is perfect. I'm not much help, of course, since I can't read or write Haitian Creole, or even French. But at least it's possible to occasionally do something useful, because there's machine translation, which is okay for identifying the subject of an article or for checking whether something's obvious vandalism. That approach will work on maybe six or seven dozen languages these days. But for the other 200 Wikipedias – well, we really need people who speak those languages. I hope we can find more of them. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:06, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, very unfortunate. I will try and help with my limited Wolof. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 10:26, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've added Babel Wolof level 1 to my user page. That's the extent of my Wolof unfortunately. Anything to help. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 12:47, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@WhatamIdoing: @Senegambianamestudy:. I've added Wolof. I'm fluent in it. Yes, I used to edit at Wiki Wolof but haven't been there for a long time. I'll add babels there as well. I do speak some of the other Senegambian languages so if you need help let me know. Tamsier (talk) 04:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And thanks for also putting it on your global userpage at Meta. That will automatically show up at all the wikis where you don't have a userpage yet. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:46, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tamsier

I'm not sure that you understand the problems. Besides the personal attacks, Tamsier's strong religious beliefs led him to edit in a way that violated WP:NPOV, ie presenting them as fact. There were also serious problems with the way he used sources. I spent a lot of time (and some money on books) to fix some of the problems. Doug Weller talk 15:50, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the community could have been a little bit more supportive/encouraging? I can only imagine how one must feel being blocked and then come to the talk pages of articles they have given a lot to and find some not so flattering or generous comments about them. It must be damaging to the soul even if not meant as a personal attack against them. People interpret things differently and I just think we can all be a little bit nicer to one another. Despite your differences, I think you can at least recognize the huge amount of work they have done on African topics - which is under represented, even old editors who have had disagreements with them in the past acknowledge that. I think we can all support each other. Yes, even I have some work to do. Sometimes I can be a bit of a potty mouth and rather impatient but I'm working on that. I think it is a major concern if we keep losing Black/African editors here. I believe their retirement was triggered by frustration and a believe that they had nowhere to turn. I think I've just found their email address at their French talk page [3]. With my limited Wolof, I think it is a temp email address for Wiki only and not their real email. I'll send them an email later and hope they really consider appealing this block. Besides, its been many years now since their block and hope whatever they were going through is a thing of the past. People do change. The least we can do is to give them a chance. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 16:31, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe invite Tamsier to skip the English Wikipedia, and write at one of the other Wikipedias. A block here has no effect at any other wiki, including https://wo.wikipedia.org (there is no Wikipedia for Serer). We need better African content here, but we need just about everything at the smaller Wikipedias. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:30, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@WhatamIdoing: I've sent them an email. I'm still waiting for their reply. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 15:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WhatamIdoing's suggestion seems excellent. It was very frustrating to me to see so much needed content being added but having such problematic content. It was a bit like the Creationist editors who can't cope with our policies. We have Young Earth Creationists who do a good job, and then we have some who simply don't (as exemplified on my talk page today. Doug Weller talk 16:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tags at Black supremacy

Those tags aren't very useful without an accompanying current explanation of the problems. It's hard to fix something if you don't know what the complaint is. I'd appreciate it if you'd address each one in its own section or remove them. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 16:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is I've already addressed the issues on the talk page months ago [4]. See also [5]. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 09:43, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Fighting -- You are not alone

I read a comment you made, please never let anyone tell you, you are the odd one, and making stuff up. I left Wikipedia more than 8 years ago, most of us African usually do. I watched all of my contributions destroyed by a gang on racist white editors. Systematically neutralizing everything to the applaud of other White editors. Obviously it me who was wrong. This is what White pressure does to us. All of our edits are apparently race motivated yet none of theirs are. All of our sources are Not Reliable Sources. I just gave up in the end to advance African history elsewhere as opposed to this Eurocentric trash bin. Most of us do give up. I hope you do not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.0.4.160 (talk) 08:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]