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Karen Gillan (Nebula) in Avengers 4

Karen Gillan Should be credited as part of the main cast as Nebula is one of the surviving members after Infinity War and her character plays a vital role in the comics Infinity1822 (talk) 21:35, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide a source. We don't engage in WP:OR or WP:SPECULATION based off the comics. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And please drop the all-caps in edit summaries. Drmies (talk) 20:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Douglas in Untitled Avengers film

Where's Michael Douglas on Untitled Avengers film? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.255.217.165 (talk) 22:33, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 July 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 17:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Untitled Avengers filmAvengers 4 – Following the release of Avengers: Infinity War, it appears that this film has become more frequently referred to as Avengers 4. Obviously it is not the official title, but is the most common colloquial title, and we should have that until an official title is established. Similar recent precedent with Terminator 6. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 12:38, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait. At some point, this is going to get an "official" title. I see no point in moving it now, when it's just going to need to be moved again in weeks or months time... --IJBall (contribstalk) 14:36, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    The point of moving it now is for readers, who are likely to search for "Avengers 4" (based on the frequent use of this colloquial title), to land on an article with that title. To redirect to "Untitled Avengers film" may be unnecessarily confusing for some. We have to consider readers who are not full-on MCU fans and may not understand what "untitled Avengers film" means. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 15:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Avengers 4 is already a redirect to the same – IOW, readers will find it fine when they search for "Avengers 4". It doesn't need to be moved in the meantime. --IJBall (contribstalk) 15:41, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I know that. This is not a huge problem or anything like that. However, the current article title can be slightly detrimental in an unnecessary way when readers are redirected to "Untitled Avengers film" when it could simply be "Avengers 4". If "Avengers 4" is the most common reference for this film, why don't you want Wikipedia to reflect that? Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 17:24, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As with IJBall, I'd say hold off still. We went through this recently on June 1 (see above) and as with that one, and now, "untitled Avengers film" is used frequently by sources referring to the film. Plus, since that request, we have from Feige that the title is coming at the end of the year, so it will only be a few more months. I also don't know if this is representative of searches done, but "Avengers 4" is only averaging about 400-500 page views (after a huge spike around the release of Infinity War), so that isn't really that much, or an indication we are doing a disservice to the readers not having the article at that title. Also, Disney ~officially~ title the film "Untitled Avengers film" when they removed the "Infinity War-Part 2" title. Had that not happened, I would be in support of the move. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:31, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. We'll get the actual title soon anyway. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - probably should have been this from the start, but at this point we might as well wait for the official title. -- Netoholic @ 07:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Holden0152 (talk) 08:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - We're expected to find out the official name at the end of this year. There's no point in having it changed for a couple months only for it to be re-changed to the official title. - Lwilsher02 (talk) 10:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Misleading as readers may mistake "Avengers 4" as an "official title". "Terminator 6" is problematic in the same way, as it has been italicised in the text, something that can be avoided if the article is given a descriptive title. --woodensuperman 13:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait per IJBall. Airbornemihir (talk) 01:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per IJBall. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 21:04, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait per above. The title will be announced in a few months. BlindmanJr (talk) 22:48, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Change Title to Avengers 4

A couple of days ago, I was on the DC Extended Universe Wikipedia page and I was reading in the talk that there had been requests to change it to Worlds of DC or Untitled DC Cinematic Universe. Untitled Avengers Film has the same problem. On Wikipedia it is referred to as UAF but everywhere else calls it Avengers 4. DCEU keeps it's name on the page because it is the most common term for it which is the same as Avengers 4. I search up news about the movie each day and every single webpage I go onto calls it Avengers 4 because it is the most common term for the film. I think we should rename it Avengers 4 until the official title comes out along with the trailer in November/December. Because, people are going to search up Avengers 4, not Untitled Avengers Film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mystic Moore (talkcontribs) 03:05, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the previous discussions on this at #Requested move 1 June 2018 and #Requested move 31 July 2018 above. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:31, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]