Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Judge (writer)
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:38, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
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Mark Judge (writer)
[edit]... that author Mark Judge credited his writing career success to his education at Catholic University of America?Source: "My career would not have been possible without these two professors." (CUA Magazine)- ALT1:
... that author Mark Judge is the grandson of Major League Baseball player Joe Judge?Source: Five archived news citations for this, including Human Events, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, and The Weekly Standard.
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- Reviewed: Theodosia Burr Shepherd
- Comment: Created on 18 September 2018 by E.M.Gregory [1]. Expansion 19 September 2018 — 23 September 2018 by Sagecandor [2]. AfD closed as Keep on 23 September 2018 by power~enwiki [3]. Article size is over 6,000 characters.
Created by E.M.Gregory (talk) and Sagecandor (talk). Nominated by Sagecandor (talk) at 22:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC).
Article has been nominated by a topic-banned and blocked user. Pending discussion here. --Pudeo (talk) 07:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- That discussion ended days, possibly weeks, ago.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:01, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
This is a well-written interesting article, meticulously sources, and I think It's good for DYK. The original hook is a bit boring to readers who don't already know the writer, also it's not clearly stated that way in the article, or did I miss something? The ALT would be better if it also said that he wrote a book about that grandfather. E.M.Gregory, are you willing to work on hooks and article? Or anybody else? - In the article, I think the court incident has too much weight in both lead and article. More lead about other things, please, or less about the incident. His articles: they are formatted with template citation, which expects them to be used as references. Please find a way to avoid the ugly error messages that they are not used. Please never use "Selected" without giving the criteria. I just removed it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Second thought, catchy title:
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... that Mark Judge wrote the book A Tremor of Bliss: Sex, Catholicism, and Rock 'n' Roll, published in 2010?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 16 October 2018 (UTC)- ALT3: ...that Mark Judge wrote a book about how dancing helped him stop drinking? E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Invited to look again, E.M.Gregory, thank you improvements. Still too concerns: too little in the lead about his work, and still ugly errror messages such as "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFJudge1995" which I think would go away if you used "cite book" instead of "citation". I like ALT3, but of course like ALT2 better, which would ned someone else to approve. If nobody does that, I'll eventually approve ALT3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've struck ALT2, which is of the "did you know that A did B" form, and hence not as interesting; ALT3 is far more interesting in my view. E.M.Gregory, thanks for your earlier improvements; it looks like there is still more work to do in expanding the article's introduction, though I wonder if it's strictly necessary for the purposes of a DYK nomination. Gerda Arendt, I'm not seeing any error messages when I look at the article, either normally or in preview, and I don't see any use of the harv template at all. Is there some tool I should be using to see the error messages you're noting? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- The tool is: add "importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js')" to your common.js. I'll look later if I can fix the errors I see myself, but have a few more urgent topics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
ALT3 then. I replaced "citation" by "cite book", but there may be something more appropriate, "cite journal" perhaps? - The lead is not yet balanced, but that's no DYK requirement, afaik. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've struck ALT2, which is of the "did you know that A did B" form, and hence not as interesting; ALT3 is far more interesting in my view. E.M.Gregory, thanks for your earlier improvements; it looks like there is still more work to do in expanding the article's introduction, though I wonder if it's strictly necessary for the purposes of a DYK nomination. Gerda Arendt, I'm not seeing any error messages when I look at the article, either normally or in preview, and I don't see any use of the harv template at all. Is there some tool I should be using to see the error messages you're noting? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Invited to look again, E.M.Gregory, thank you improvements. Still too concerns: too little in the lead about his work, and still ugly errror messages such as "Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFJudge1995" which I think would go away if you used "cite book" instead of "citation". I like ALT3, but of course like ALT2 better, which would ned someone else to approve. If nobody does that, I'll eventually approve ALT3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- ALT3: ...that Mark Judge wrote a book about how dancing helped him stop drinking? E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2018 (UTC)