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Dear anonymous editor

First of all, if you are associated with the here! network, you should really avoid editing articles about your content, per WP:COI. Second, the changes you are making are unsourced, thus failing WP:V and must be removed. Your unsourced changes also implicate WP:BLP. I suggest you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policies and guidelines before continuing. Otto4711 (talk) 16:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What does of Jewish descent mean?

Jewish people are part of nearly every ethnic/racial category on this website, so it seems a little weird to treat Jewishness like a unique ethnic/racial group on this article.

--174.89.39.72 (talk) 00:23, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Jews are perhaps the most prominent example of an ethnoreligious group which is why you may be confused regarding the unique nature of them as a people. Alssa1 (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear anonymous IP 189.162.174.236

You keep reinserting an obscure article from Medium by author by a pseudonim Huxley C (not known for anything). If you want to source your claim about a certain criticism you will have to find a source that has more weight. Anybody can create any article on medium and one article doesn't signified as "has been criticised by the left". For all I know you could be Huxley C and this could also be original research. Oh, and the fact that I have the word Freedom in my username doesn't violate any wikipedia policy, neither does edit history. FreedomGonzo (talk) 07:16, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the weight of the evidence provided in the article are based on the examples given in the article (which are extensive). Furthermore, the citation is merely citing a "given criticism" and is not claiming that said criticism is true (though the article makes a strong case for such)189.162.174.236 (talk) 07:34, 14 January 2018 (UTC).[reply]
I have again removed the content. While I would like to find a usable source for this point, this ain't it. Wikipedia has rules for what sources can be used for living people, per WP:BLP (specifically WP:BLPSOURCES). Anonymous blog posts are not reliable for factual statements, including the statement that he "has been criticized". He has, of course, been criticized, but we need to contextualize who is doing the criticism, and we need reliable sources (WP:RS) to do it. Please discuss here before restoring this content. Grayfell (talk) 07:42, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Intellectual Dark Web

You are invited to participate in this AfD discussion about whether to delete Intellectual Dark Web. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:11, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The term "classical liberal"

So this is apparently a term that right-wing youtube types like to apply to themselves. However, there are no reliable sources that describes Rubin with this term. NBC News and Variety describes him as a "libertarian".[1][2] That's what this Wikipedia page should describe him. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 04:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think incorporating both of them would be ideal, but the phrasing might be difficult. Pokerplayer513 (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Why should both be incorporated if only one term can be reliably sourced? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
[3][4] --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:31, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Politico piece is acceptable for "Rubin self-describes as a classical liberal". The Week piece is an op-ed. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:35, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I restored the RS descriptions of his political beliefs, but also added a self-description which the Politico piece is a good secondary RS for.[5] Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:11, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Here are a few more sources from a journal's website [1], the Huffington Post [2] and the Atlantic [3]. I think it's fair to properly represent his own beliefs on this page rather than accepting a label given to him by people against his agenda. It's fair to concede this is contested, but it's one-side to not represent him. All of this citations I think are fair and, indeed, they some are quite critical of him so this gives some objectivity.
  1. ^ "What Dave Rubin Gets Wrong". Merion West. Merion West.
  2. ^ "For Fancy Racists, Classical Liberalism Offers Respect, Intrigue". Huffpost. Huffpost.
  3. ^ "The Republican Party Needs to Embrace Liberalism". The Atlantic. The Atlantic.