User talk:Michael Bednarek

Revert on Waltzing Matilda

Hi Michael, you reverted my edit on Waltzing Matilda. I was trying to remove the 'first space broadcast of a song by astronauts' claim. I indicated 'see talk' in my edit summary and was wondering if you had a chance to look at my comments there? You cited 'authoritative source' when reverting, but the Australian Geographic was not even established at the time of the event and, for one, is clearly misstating the year of the broadcast (it was in 1981, not 1983). I believe I am citing a good contemporary source, the UPI article from 1981 (UPI archive link) that makes no mention of the broadcast being a first of any kind. Of course, UPI might have just missed the fact that it was a first, but is there any other source for the claim? The second source cited (Orroral) is just a recording and does not make the claim(?). (I think discussion should probably continue on the article's talk page.)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Glimz (talk • contribs) 01:30, 14 January 2019 (AEST) (UTC)

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As you suggested, I've copied your message to the article's talk page. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:14, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey, did some more research on the space claim. Not sure if you're being notified, but I wrote here: Talk:Waltzing Matilda#More research on space broadcast claim: it's false -- Glimz (talk) 15:07, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Velocity (disambiguation)

I'm a little confused as to why you think Velocity (disambiguation) shouldn't have a redirect to dynamics which explains what velocity is in the context of MIDI.

The articles you linked to even mention disambiguation pages are there so "other uses of the term can be found." Anyone that's played around in a DAW or with a MIDI device/program will likely come across or hear the term velocity. It's a fairly popular term based on web results: "velocity midi" (~7mil), "keyboard expression velocity" (~2.7mil), "DAW velocity -midi" (>300k). The term has made its way into a bit of literature (~40k books containing "velocity midi"). The article on MIDI has a link to the term velocity that just directly links to dynamics.

The whole reason I added it was because I remembered velocity before I remembered dynamics. Wikipedia didn't deliver when I attempted to look up the former. Whatchildisthis (talk) 16:35, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Your entry at Velocity (disambiguation) was: "*Velocity (MIDI), the way MIDI handles musical dynamics such as forte, pianissimo, etc.<ref>{{Cite book|title=Music Technology|last=|first=|publisher=|year=2012|isbn=1107000807|location=|pages=65}}</ref>".

MOS:DAB, specifically MOS:DABENTRY, strictly requires exactly one clickable link, and that references should not be used. Further, Wikipedia:Disambiguation makes a distinction between disambiguation pages and broad-concept articles. Your entry would fit into such an article, but that's not what Velocity (disambiguation) is – it's a disambiguation page, not a memory aid. An entry for Velocity (MIDI) or MIDI velocity on the disambiguation page would be justified if such an article existed, or at least a section discussing the concept in the MIDI or Dynamics (music) article and a REDIRECT to that section. That approach would comply with all the rules, guidelines, customs, and improve Wikipedia. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:36, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

WP:Trout

For future reference, when someone like me does something this effing stupid, please WP:TROUT me. face palm. Sorry about that and thank you for catching the issue!! I've gone through and fixed it but really appreciate you tagging me in the edit summary where you fixed it. Thanks again! --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 17:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Ode to Joy

Hi, I added below section on Ode to Joy article.

Ode to Joy was used at many sporting events

• UEFA European Qualifiers: Official Anthem

I think that UEFA music category was supported by article.

Is there any problems on my contribution?

I think that you are good at music.

I hope that you improve my contibution on Ode to Joy.

Thanks.

Footwiks (talk) 04:51, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

This would better be raised at Talk:Ode to Joy to give other interested editors a chance to weigh in.

The text you inserted claims that Ode to Joy melody was used at many sporting events, followed by one bullet point linking to a disambiguation page and a video on YouTube. a) That's not "many". b) That YouTube video is a promotional video of unknown origin and has nothing to do with UEFA European Qualifiers – it's for the 2018 FIFA World Cup and that article only mentions "Live It Up" as its official song – no mention of "Ode to Joy". So, at best we have a YouTube video, which is not a reliable source, that uses the Ode, but has no relation to UEFA European Qualifiers. Further, there's no mention of the Ode at UEFA Europa League Anthem. Conclusion: We don't have a) any source confirming it as "Official Anthem"; b) any source that supports this usage as notable. I removed your edits because these requirements were not met. I suggest you self-revert your edits. The procedure to follow in these cases is WP:BRD; you were not supposed to re-add your material until after the "discussion" bit. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:24, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

1) Really, Ode to Joy is used at the many sporting events. But I don't remember them all. So I just edited one example. But There are many examples: Nagano 1998 Opening Ceremony Beethoven Ode to Joy

2) That's not promotional video. That video had relation with UEFA. You can check out the UEFA PRESENTS on European Qualifiers Intro - Video.
Live It Up is the official song of 2018 FIFA World Cup(From June~To July). We are discussing about song at 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying.

3) There are some more videos UEFA - European Qualifiers Intro/Song extended, European Qualifiers - Official Theme Song
Ode to Joy is used certainly at the UEFA European Championship qualifying and 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying.

4): Conclusion: Ode to Joy is used certainly as anthem at the UEFA Official Intro Video of UEFA European Championship qualifying and 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying. But I think that this not important topic. More discussion is waste of time. Anyway thanks for your opinion.Footwiks (talk) 11:04, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I think we can agree that Michael is "good at music", and it is nice of you to say so. He is also absolutely right when he says This would better be raised at Talk:Ode to Joy to give other interested editors a chance to weigh in. If it is, then I shall. For now, in passing, I just wanted to add that the only reference currently given for that usage ascribes it to Mozart, which gives me a bit of a Bad Feeling about its credibility. I am shutting up for now but will look to see if we can discuss this at the Talk page. With best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 12:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

References

Removal of 2019 Protests at Guggenheim Museum

I noted that you removed the entry in the history section of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum article that documented the recent protest and its background, namely the link of the museum to the Mortimer Sackler family and their connection to the opioid epidemic. You say it is "not of encyclopedic importance". Can you please explain what brings you to that conclusion? Ekem (talk) 14:24, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Please discuss this at Talk:Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum where a discussion about other material has recently come to that conclusion; see also the article's history. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Revert on AMP

Hi Michael,
You again reverted my addition of the "Association for Molecular Pathology" on the AMP disambiguation page with the comment "nothing to disambiguate". Maybe I am not getting something right here. But when I was looking for information about this association on Wikipedia, I ended up at this disambiguation page with no information about the association. I do think that there is something to disambiguate, whether or not an article already exists. And I would personally prefer if a disambiguation page would at least give me information about another potential meaning of an abbreviation - even if it does not have a full-fledged article. But maybe the Wikipedia rules state somewhere that there is nothing to disambiguate if Wikipedia does not (yet) contain a full article. Please let me know if that's the case. Thanks.
Cheers,
Andreas
--Keilandreas (talk) 10:33, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi! The purpose of disambiguation pages is described at MOS:DAB: Disambiguation pages ... are non-article pages designed to help a reader find the right Wikipedia article when different topics could be referred to by the same search term. Material that should not be included in disambiguation pages is governed by WP:DABNOT. MOS:DABRED explicitly disallows entries that don't have any blue links. Only if an article for the association exists, and I think it should, can it be included on that disambiguation page. Gruß, Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright, even though WP:DABNOT does not prohibit including an unlinked article, I can see how a strict interpretation of MOS:DAB and MOS:DABRED can lead to the conclusion of not having AMP in this list at all (neither as red link nor unlinked). However, I still think that including the Association for Molecular Pathology in this disambiguation page would help readers to find the right article (or conclude that there is none and or that one should be created) rather than inadvertently clicking on Americans for Medical Progress (which seems to be another association in a somewhat related area). In this sense, listing other meanings (even if there is no article yet) would actually help with disambiguation. My personal experience while looking for more information on the Association for Molecular Pathology was that after ending up at the disambiguation page, I was still unclear as to whether or not Wikipedia has any info on this association. What is your suggestion to improve this experience? Should I create an article stub and then add a blue link? I did not want to go that far since I barely have any info on this association and could probably just create an article stub. However, I do think that the association merits an article. Thanks for your guidance, Michael. Keilandreas (talk) 14:35, 19 February 2019 (UTC)