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Want to learn anti-vandalism

Hi. I want to learn the anti-vandalism syllabus. Apparently you have 3 vacancies. Can you help? TheDoDahMan (talk) 08:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan Greetings. Thank you for interested in counter vandalism. lease note that there are many editors who were interested in counter vandalism course and abundant the program mid way due to lack of anticipation of the amount of efforts/time needed in reading the program material, doing assigned "homework" and exams requirements . The program has no timeline set, as the editor would progress through the course work at their own time. Generally, it would take an editor 1.5-2 months to finish the course. So do prepare yourself for lots of reading and homework if you intend to proceed with the program. As of today, you have edited 19 mainspace - see HERE and the requirement for a user to enroll into the program is that (1) the user has contributed at least 200 edits to MAINSPACE and (2) a good contributor (no vandalism edits , disruptive edits or have not been blocked in last 6 months). Since you are retired, I am believe you would have time in your hand to make 200 mainspace edits very quickly. You could find help needed in Wikipedia:Task Center. Kindly come back if you are still interested after you have contributed to at least 200 mainspace edits, and also include the reason why you are interested in the program and become a vandal fighter in Wikipedia. Let me know if anything else I could help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct. I have plenty of time. I will come back when I have made the required number of edits. Thank you.TheDoDahMan (talk) 09:16, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan Great! Looking forward to see you pop back here and I could set up the program for you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:44, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]



TheDoDahMan You have reached 200+ edits in mainspace. Pls have a look the "Goals" and "Syllabus" sections below to understand the requirements needed at the end of the course in order to graduate from CVSCHOOL. Secondly, please note that there are many editors who were interested in counter vandalism course and abundant the program mid way due to lack of anticipation of the amount of efforts/time needed in reading the program material, doing assigned "homework" and exams requirements . The program has no timeline set, as the editor would progress through the course work at their own time. Generally, it would take an editor 1.5-2 months to finish the course. So do prepare yourself for lots of reading and homework if you intend to proceed with the program.

Goals

If you're new and/or inexperienced, before embarking on a Counter-Vandalism training programme, you should be able to demonstrate that you have already mastered the basic principles of editing the encyclopedia and contributed at least 200 edits to MAINSPACE. If you have previously been warned or requested to follow guidelines, you should have demonstrated that you have addressed these issues.

When you have shown through training that you have mastered the principles of Counter-Vandalism and can apply them with accuracy, and can communicate correctly and effectively with new users of all kinds you may be able to apply for permission to use restricted tools, such as, for example Rollback, and STiki that will enable you to semi-automate the process, while understanding that speed alone is not essential - the target is accuracy. When you have achieved these goals, you can display the {{User CVU0-en}} userbox on your user page.

Syllabus

Competency Fail Pass
Knowledge and Understanding of Concepts

Able to correctly define and describe:

  • Cannot describe these concepts at a comprehensible level.
  • Unable to differentiate the difference between vandalism and good faith edits
  • Does not understand the key purpose of reverting vandalism
  • Can concisely and elaborately describe each of these concepts.
  • Can describe the proper use of warning templates and how to correctly make an AIV submission.
Critical Thinking

Able to review historical reversions and identify whether such reversion were correctly categorized

Correctly assessed fewer than 85% of the examples provided by their instructor. Correctly assessed at least 85% of the examples provided by their instructor.
Communication

Able to effectively communicate with other editors regarding reversions

Communicates inconsistently with editors via talk page comments or in response to editors who question or challenge their reversions. Communicates in a polite and professional manner and avoids biting other editors and harsh comments.
Application

Effectively applies the concepts and tools of vandalism fighting in a productive and proficient manner.

  • Cannot consistently revert vandalized pages correctly.
  • Is inconsistent in use of warning on user talk pages or uses incorrect warning templates
  • Has reverted fewer than 50 instances of vandalism in the two weeks prior to graduation – or – has reverted more than 50 instances of vandalism with a high degree of incorrect reversions.
  • Demonstrates proficiency in performing reversions, either manually or with a tool (Twinkle, etc.).
  • Consistently leaves the correct messages on vandal’s talk page explaining the reversion, and is able to further explain the vandal their reasoning behind the reversion if prompted.
  • Has accurately reverted at least 50 instances of vandalism in the two weeks prior to graduation.


If you are still interested in the program please include the reason why you are interested in the program and become a vandal fighter in Wikipedia. I do encourage you to slow up on vandal fighting edits a bit until you fully understand about vandalism. If you have not checked out the WP:The Wikipedia Adventure program, I highly recommend you to do so. Although some editors might find the program is written/displayed with the younger editors in mind, but the valuable info and exercises is meant for all editors which would help you to understand some fundamental info and requirements as a good contributor in Wikipedia. I learnt a lot from the program when I started editing Wikipedia. Also, you might want to help out in other areas as what takes you fancy such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors (copy editing) or Fix spelling and grammar. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Military and Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorsport, and if you are interested then join the Project and help out the open tasks.
Let me know about your interest of CVUA program, so I would know should I set up the program for you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:30, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I still want to join the AVU. I think the reason is clear, as I said before, I want to be a part of this project. Also to paraphrase JFK, I want to do it, not because it is easy but because it is hard. I think you can see from my user page that I have always welcomed a challenge. As for time, I have already indicated that it is not an issue. So; let's go!TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi TheDoDahMan. Good to know and welcome CVUA. Please enable WP:Twinkle if you havent. Go to the Gadgets section of your Preferences page and tick the box and save the edit (at the the bottom of the list of gadgets). Twinkle report vandalism, warn the editors, page protection, CSD, talk back, welcome the editor, AfD an article and etc. I have created a sub page for you for this program and see HERE for your first assignment. Once you have read the reading material and done the assignment, then ping me. I will review (usually the next day after I am notified by you) and make necessary comments. Kindly revert if you have further questions of my comment if not let me know you are ready for the second assignment. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:55, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man

Hey CASSIOPEIA, someone wrote in Tony Ferguson’s page that he had beaten Khabib via TKO (Ears) and Donald Cerrone via TKO. I reverted this, and Everedux started reverting my actions, he wrote 2 warnings of banning me and I was just fighting vandalism. I wrote on his talk page and he didn’t reply, just reverted all the messages I left in his page. Help me please. Mixedmartialartsfan1 (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t have much knowledge of MMA, and because there was no edit summary with your edits I mistakenly assumed they were vandalism. I’ve removed the warnings from your talk page and restored your edits on Tony Ferguson. Again, my apologies for the misunderstanding. Everedux (talk) 23:56, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mixedmartialartsfan1, Greetings. Thank you for your message above. Do take on the advice to leave a brief Help:Edit Summary on all your edits as this will not only remove the misunderstanding and receive warning when you remove content of an article but more importantly it is a way to communicate to other editors the nature of your edits for articles' content is the collaboration works from many editors.
Hi Everedux Greetings. Thank you for being part of counter vandalism in Wikipedia. I am one of the Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy (CVUA) trainers and also an active MMA editor in Wikipedia. Mixedmartialartsfan1 reached out to me as I would be familiar of the nature of your wrong revert and warnings place on their talk page. Mixedmartialartsfan1 had placed 4 different messages on your talk page explaining your revert and warnings were not correct which you deleted them each time when you received the message without replying. For such Mixeodmartialartsfan1 sought help from me of the situation on my talk page.
As all of us know communication is one of the most important aspect among the editors in Wikipedia, not replying an editor and deleted their messages is not a right thing to do especially you had reverted and wrongly place the warning messages on the their talk page for you didnt want to look into the matter until you were being complaint of your conduct. Secondly, as a vandal fighter, we do mistakes from time to time, including I, but we have to take responsibility of our edits and learnt from them if we have done wrong for CVUA motto is civility, responsibility, maturity, and not replying an editor of the your edits and deleted them did not show you care of your actions and trying to hide the complains. You have the right to delete the messages on your talk page, but they will still show on the history page. Admin will check your edits including your talk page when you request certain user rights or if you are involved any noticeboard incidents next time, so deleting the messages would only raise more questions by the admin. Lastly, If we are not sure about certain deletion or changes in an edits especially a sportsman, such as they have just been transfer to another club, result overturn due to some doping incidents, their wins/lost records, and etc, then we, as the vandal fighters, would just leave the edits as they are for other vandal fighters who are familiar with the sport to verify the info or editors who are involved in the sport to take action if necessary (just as in this case, Mixedmartialartsfan1 knows about the the bout between Tony Ferguson and Khabib Nurmagomedov or Donald Cerrone have not been taken place before or being scheduled at the moment - see HERE).
You have done the right thing to remove the warnings message and apologies to Mixedmartialartsfan1 finally and I thank you for that. In CVUA, the program addresses more than vandalism subject, it also cover username, threats, CSD and etc., if you want to enroll, just let me know. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:10, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello CASSIOPEIA. I understand that communication is very important on Wikipedia, and I also realize that removing talk page messages is not advisable in most cases. In the past, I've only removed messages from my talk page that appeared to be clearly sent in bad faith, such as these: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. Similar messages have been removed by other users, such as these: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11].
As I said before, I incorrectly assumed that Mixedmartialartsfan1's edits were vandalism (the tone of this message [12] didn't help with that), and as such I removed the messages that were sent. I was not trying to avoid responsibility, however, as I've been fully willing to explain my edits or acknowledge mistakes in the past - see here: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5].
That being said, I recognize that my actions in this case were wrong, and for that I apologize. I should have both checked the edits in question closer before deciding to revert them and responded to Mixedmartialartsfan1's messages right away. I will do my best not to repeat either of these mistakes in the future, while also being more careful about reverting edits on topics I'm not very familiar with.
Thank you for this message, as I appreciate your help and guidance. Everedux (talk) 16:10, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Everedux, Greetings. Thank you for your message. I had already noted and thanked your acknowledgment on my last message. I do understand the message from the editor might not be what you were expected or might not consider civil for your standard but there was no personal or legal thread made. We, the vandal fighters, often receive unpleasant messages, and sometimes down right disgusting comments. It is not easy to keep cool at times, me included, and what we could do is to take a few minutes break, make a cup of coffee to chill it off. You have been helping Wikipedia especially in C-V area and I thank you for that. We all do mistakes and all we would do is to minimize them. Thanks again for your message and your effort made. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:47, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Last Warning

Hi again. I found an instance of vandalism from User talk:137.122.64.155. They have had their final warning before I got there.The page in Question is Anti-abortion movement I thought you should know.TheDoDahMan (talk) 22:25, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan Hi, thank you for letting me know and truly appreciate it. the IP use have been blocked - see User talk:137.122.64.155. Rack up 200 mainspace edits (talk pages/Teahouse/WP pages do not considered mainspace but articles pages do) then come back and i get the CVUA program started for your (make sure you dont make and disruptive or vandalism edits yourself. Since you are new to Wikipedia, if you are not sure, just leave it/dont make the edit). If you have any questions or any I could help, just let me know. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:27, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Yes I am very careful. I only revert things that are obvious vandalism. Sometimes however, I see edits where only a number is changed by a small amount. I know that this is a stealth tactic but if someone changes the GDP of Outer Mongolia, how do I know what the right thing is? So I just leave it and put it on the watch list. I have the sequence down: Assess -> Revert -> Warn -> Watch -> Report.TheDoDahMan (talk) 10:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Me again... This user keeps deleting their warning from the talk page: 2601:240:E100:2A36:61C6:5CDA:7C1B:AE9D I reverted it, but I don't know how to stop it.TheDoDahMan (talk) 10:29, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan, Greetings. Always check the sources provided in the article and see if the changes are correct. If there is not source provided to verify and you have not idea where to find it (especially on sportsmen statistics) then leave it and do nothing and let the vandal fighters / editors who know about the subject well to deal with it, unless those changed of number is extremely outrages such as a boxer total bouts change from 29 to 4994949494949 or a box office of a movie from USD 2.5 mil to USD 5, then you could revert it and warn the editors. You can go to "Preference" on your top menu and click "watchlist" to set your preference it you wish. When you have other user right tool such as Hunggle you would able watch editors' edits much easily. To use Huggle, editor needs to have rollbback right and you have wait until you finish or on the final leg of the CVUA program to apply. Pop back here if you have any other questions. Thank you for helping on C-V. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:36, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft

How can there Draft:Stoniškiai to Wiki article " Stoniškiai " ? --Stoniskiai (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stoniskiai Greetings. If you want to turn the draft page into an article in the mainspace, then you submit the draft for review. If you want me to do it for you then let me know. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:25, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, please turn the draft page into an article in the mainspace, thanks :) --Stoniskiai (talk) 04:45, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Stoniskiai good day. pls insert {{subst:submit}} (without the " txl| " in "edit mode" ) on top of the page for review. (after you have clicked published/save your edit, you would see a "yellow submission panel" appears either on top of the page or at the bottom of the page. Do note the backlog for review is about 2 month for we have 3.5K draft in the pool of review at the moment. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
please create You self a article Stoniškiai with the information from "Draft:Stoniškiai"! user rights (who is autor) or oth. formalia is for me not important. --Stoniskiai (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Stoniskiai I am not sure I understand you correctly, but I have submit the draft page for review which I think that is your request. pls see Draft:Stoniškiai. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More Vandalsim?

Check the page Michael Cohen (actor). This is a BLP of a transgender person and an ip has changed all the gender pronouns. This is a little confusing for me.TheDoDahMan (talk) 11:35, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan Use the gender that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification - see MOS:GENDERID; example Caitlyn Jenner. A lot of time editors might not know which gender pronounce to use for a transgender person in Wikipedia, so a revert and explain to the editor with attached relevant links. If the user do it again then warn them. If they disagree with the term we use, ask them to go to article talk page for a discussion. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have a persistent one. This one keeps vandalising rugby teams. He is on his third warning.TheDoDahMan (talk) 12:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan Pls provide name of the article and the user name. Thanks. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:26, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The articles are: Ottawa Stags and New York City Rugby League. He is using at least 2 ips, the last one is 2001:8003:C000:5600:E49E:DB8F:8A3A:2F68. This guy keeps inserting {{speedy}}.TheDoDahMan (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TheDoDahMan They have stopped for now and I have placed messages to the IP address talk page. They can choose to WP:AfD the page if they want so the Wikipedia community can have a discussion if the subjects/articles are notable enough to merit a page in mainspace. I also request for page protection, if the more IP disrupt the pages, then they will be protected if the disruption has staled that they wont. You do really into vandalism work I can see here. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:55, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I just want to be a part of one of humankind's greatest endeavours...TheDoDahMan (talk) 12:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Got another live one. Check out their talk page. 51.52.235.51 TheDoDahMan (talk) 13:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another one. 50.205.178.194 TheDoDahMan (talk) 13:21, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TheDoDahMan Please give one notch lower warnings next time.
Yes Wikipedia is a living encyclopedia and a platform where knowledge is free and shared. see [ [13], https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites] and [14]. ~~

Template Wanted

Hi. Is there a template I can use that says something like: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contribution. In keeping with Wikipedia's policy of verification, please consider adding references for content you add to articles in future. It would be handy.TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:07, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan See HERE. You can also use WP:Twinkle by clicking "Wel" from the drop down list and choose from the list which it is much easy. CASSIOPEIA(talk)
Thanks. I have another problem. The article is Spring roll, this user (71.128.3.86) Has changed all occurrences of "spring" with "egg"; the hard way! I don't know how to handle this one.TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan all edits have been reverted. There are tools to revert consecutive vandalized edits with user right permission. You can apply when you have finish the CVUA program or right before the CVUA final exam.. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:38, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft - The Cufflinks

You left this message: ‪CASSIOPEIA‬ left a message on your talk page in "‪Your draft article, Draft:The Cufflinks‬". Hello, Daffdaemon. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "The Cufflinks...

This article has been finalized and submitted for review. Why am I getting this message?Daffdaemon 13:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

And more importantly, when I go to my page, why can't I find the article?Daffdaemon 13:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Nevermind - It was deleted by some glitch. It's been fixed. Daffdaemon 14:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Daffdaemon Greetings. I think the one was deleted Under G13 is the one you had asked for WP:REFUND -see #57. You have recreated the draft here Draft:The Cufflinks. You draft article is in the pool for review and the backlog is about two months as we have 3.5K draft articles in AfC and 7.3K new page. Kindly be patient and thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:21, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Conundrum

Hi. I have a problem with page Bell Let's Talk. The user has changed the content and deleted a reference, but has provided another reference. This page has been a problem. Please see the history. TheDoDahMan (talk) 17:21, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan Leave it. I think the IP user is trying to update and tweak the copyeiding of the page as source was provided and match what the content added - [15]. If a editor adding an unsouced content that is not a vandalism edit, but we place unsouced message instead of vandalism edit. Pls do NOT revert more than 3 times in 24 hrs on on the same article for edit which is not vandalism for your will be blocked. Bear in mind. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:41, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK Sorry. Still learning...
TheDoDahMan (talk) 17:48, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Can you take a look at Interbreeding between archaic and modern humans. I'm not sure what to do here.TheDoDahMan (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan Morning. Few editors updating the info. Leave it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:55, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Can you look at Himesh Reshammiya. It appears to be a good-faith edit but the user has changed the picture. I don't know how to check the copyright...
    TheDoDahMan (talk) 13:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan The image was uploaded HERE. I dont think the editor who uploaded the image is the copyright holder; however, I have a look at the internet and cant find the same image for such, I would not report it. Leave it then. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:18, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have a user (148.252.24.230) who keeps changing "a British" to "an English" in Jamie Oliver. I have reverted once, but I don't want to keep reverting because you told me yesterday not to revert so often.TheDoDahMan (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And what exactly is your objection to that change? "English" is more informative. Please don't label a good faith attempt to improve the article as vandalism. 148.252.24.230 (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan United Kingdom = England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and the people is called British; whereas English is who born in England. If a person is born in England, he is an English and a British at the same time; whereas a Scottish is also a British but not an English. Secondly, if an editor makes a good faith edit, then it is not a vandalism. The warning you placed was incorrect. Apologies to the IP editor would be the right thing to do; mistakes would happen as you are still new and learning about vandalism- the CUVA program would address the this topic (good faith vs vandalism). Do not edit on nationality, race of a subject, sportsperson' statistic unless you know the subject well and could back it up with sources. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK. That is clear. Can you look at Alexander Downer . It is a BLP that has been messed up to a point where I can't figure out how to restore it. Still learning...TheDoDahMan (talk) 14:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan It is best if you remove the warning message from the IP talk page and apologies first. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:10, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The warning was taken down by someone and I have apologised.TheDoDahMan (talk) 14:12, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan Thank you. I have taken care of Alexander Downer page. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:14, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have a problem with Briefs, yes you heard right. The user is embedding a you tube video. I'm not sure if that is allowed.TheDoDahMan (talk) 14:59, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan have reverted. Btw, I resided in different time zone than that of yours. So I wont be staying long soon. If you still have any question before I go, pls fire away. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:13, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'm OK until tomorrow. I will be going out for dinner soon. I'm on the 0300h - 1600h shift, so I won't be up much longer myself.Oh, The you tube video; are they allowed?TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:21, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan it would considered promotion/spamming. Good night. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:25, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan By the way your have edited 195 main space, so I set up the program for you tmr. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:28, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have a real obnoxious kid making threats at Repetitive strain injury. I'm not taking the bait. I'm just reverting and putting up the standard messages. Good night.TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:34, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Good Morning! Can you look at Ana Guerra. It is seriously messed up.TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)Same for St Thomas Aquinas Catholic School, Birmingham.[reply]
Are users allowed to put in a blog address? This has happened at Flame-throated bulbul.TheDoDahMan (talk) 16:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Are users allowed to put a link to facebook pages in articles? This is the case with Beverly Hills Preparatory School.TheDoDahMan (talk) 17:20, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Can you look at Leroy Pullins. Something funny is going on here.TheDoDahMan (talk) 17:32, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
TheDoDahMan Hi the edits page provide have been dealt with, pls seee Wikipedia:External links especially WP:ELNO. Most editors do not know the EL guidelines and usually have no intention to make disruptive edits for such we would assume good faith unless, they are for promotion/spam links. There are thousand of disruptive / vandalism edits each day in Wikipedia. For blatantly vandalism edits, they usually would be reverted and warn by vandal fighters or editors within minutes or hours and if not by the next day. If you do use if an edit is considered vandalism, then leave it. If you do not know what to do, leave it. Cheer. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:03, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft - Andrew Hoppin

You left a comment on my user talk page regarding the article Andrew Hoppin. I just want to clarify a couple of points. First, when I originally created the article, I did not create it as a draft. I was fairly active in Wikipedia a number of years ago, but the system of having people create drafts did not exist back when I was active, and I did not know about it when I created the Andrew Hoppin article. I am a former co-worker and business partner of Andrew, but at the time I created the article, we were no longer working together. I realized that this might still be considered a conflict of interest, so I posted a comment in the article's talk page disclosing my relationship with Andrew. I still think that he is a sufficiently noteworthy to warrant a Wikipedia article, but I understand that my history with him may color my perception, so I think it is best that I defer to the judgment of other Wikipedians about this article, and I therefore am not objecting to the decision that has been made to delete it. If I have occasion to create an article in the future that I think may raise COI questions, I will try to handle it better than I did with the Andrew Hoppin article.

While I'm thinking about it, I'd like to call your attention to the Wikipedia article that exists on me -- not my user page but the actual Wikipedia article: Sheldon Rampton. This article was *not* created by me. Early in my involvement with Wikipedia, I did make a couple of edits to the article and was promptly admonished not to do so. Since then I have been careful to avoid editing it directly. However, the article is now significantly out of date, since it does not mention anything about my life or career since 2009. I see that the article has also been flagged as needing citations and that there was a proposal at one time to delete it which ended in a decision to keep it. I don't want to edit the article myself in respect of Wikipedia's COI policy. If, however, there are other Wikipedians who want to edit the article and improve it, I would be happy to provide independent citations or other information as desired upon request. Is there a good way to communicate that offer so that future editors know they can contact me?

Thanks for your work on Wikipedia. Sheldon Rampton (talk) 08:10, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sheldon Rampton good day and thank you for the message above. For Sheldon Rampton article - you would make the request assistance on the article talk page. If you able to provide me independent reliable sources, I will edit it for you and place the inline citation accordingly. Let me know if anything else I could help. thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:23, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:2019 Johan Cruyff Shield

Would you please review this article? Thanks. – Flix11 (talk) 06:50, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flix11 Greetings. We need independent sources (at least 2 in any languagues) to indicate about "2019" Johan Cruyff Shield as this is the subject of the article. Let me know anything else I could help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:00, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA I have added Dutch source. Is it enough? – Flix11 (talk) 07:37, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Flix11 We need sources specifically state "2019 Johan Cruyff Shield" in the source articles. What you have provided (sources) do not indicate that. Just a if the draft article is about FIFA 2020 and the sources do not indicate anything about FIFA 2020 that would be the right sources for the subject and content of the article. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:45, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@CASSIOPEIA: I made a mistake. Is it now? Because even the title said so. Besides check out the 2018 Johan Cruyff Shield. It does not even have a single ref. – Flix11 (talk) 07:51, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Flix11 This is good. Find another source same as the last one and add both of them on the draft. Once you have done then submit the draft and let me know for I will review it for you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:58, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA Two Dutch sources, even have the date and time. Thanks. – Flix11 (talk) 08:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Flix11 Good and thanks. Pls press "submit" and I will review and place the article in mainspace. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:37, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Flix11 Reviewed and the article is in the mainspace - see 2019 Johan Cruyff Shield. Thank you for your contribution. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:45, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]


26 May 2019 - Some thoughts

Hi Cassiopeia. I slept in today. I usually get up at ca. 0300h because I like to be active when everyone else is not. Today I didn't get up till 0830h. I don't know why. Anyways, I have read the external links material and I think I understand it. Apropos to that, check out Creepy Crawlers. How did this article get approved in the first place? The references are no good and the external links are blatantly promotional, although I think they were put there in good faith. I know there are strict rules for AFC, because I have submitted one that is awaiting re-review. Thank you for clarifying the sports results for me, because I have seen dozens of articles on footballers (I knew that football is popular but Wow.) that are updated almost in real-time. I presume the same caution applies to election results. There seems to be a general election going on in India and those results are being updated rapidly as well. I am leaving this stuff alone. Will we be able to start the AV course soon? I think I must be at 200 edits by now. I thought I should start a new section as the old one was getting kind of cluttered. You can delete that section if you want. I noticed some ip addresses only offend every few months or a year later. Is this because they are shared (probably in a school)? I find it curious that they offend until the last warning, then stop and start up again later on. That's all for now.TheDoDahMan (talk) 14:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan Good day. (1) As for the CVUA program, I have replied you at Want to learn anti-vandalism and pls revert at that message threat. (2) As for article creation and acceptance, in general, for an article to make it to main space in Wikipedia, the subject needs to be notable and the content claimed need to supported by multiple WP:SECONDARY, reliable sources where by the sources talk about the the subject in length and in dept and not merely passing mentioned. There are guidelines for reviewers to accept a page into mainspace, but we the reviewers have slightly different standard and variant on acceptance. To note, even if a page has been accepted and is in the mainspace of Wikipedia, if the notability of the subject is being challenged by an editor, they would nominated the article for deletion where by a discussion will determine the fate of the article (keep/delete/redirect/drafty/merge). (Btw to clarify and not to make you confuse, I use page =article, and in Wikipedia we use gender neutral pronounce - he/him/his= they/them/their if we dont know the gender of the editor, so an editor = they). In short, only articles truly meet the requirements would stay in mainspace for good. Also, since we have a small group of reviewers and all of us are volunteers, non notable articles might be in mainspace go unnotice - see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXIST. (3) For popular subjects article, the articles usually would have a group of interested editors to update and correct the info as soon as the press report it. You would find articles such as in sports, sportsmen, entertainers, elections, current events, and etc. (4) Some IP user(s) are shared such as from schools, uni, companies and etc some are not. You could check some info of the IP by clicking WHOIS / Geolacate at the bottom of the IP contribution page. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

VeVo

In the WP:Video links it says not to link to music videos because of copyright concerns. Then in the same article it says that linking to VeVo is OK. Can you resolve this paradox?TheDoDahMan (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheDoDahMan The general concept is that if the videos are from trusted (reliable) primary/official sources that means the sources hold the copyright of the videos and they could be linked, and if it they not by trusted/official sources, then the sources would normally do not hold the copyright of the videos and they can not be linked.Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:27, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article messed up by consecutive vandalism

Hi. Can you look at Good Doogs? I can't restore it, I'm not experienced enough.TheDoDahMan (talk) 12:39, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TheDoDahMan There is a page named Good Doogs. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to keep an eye on 213.96.60.196, they appear to be a repeat offender. They were recently unblocked.TheDoDahMan (talk) 13:41, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TheDoDahManThe user is being blocked - see HERE. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:48, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TheDoDahMan, Pls see message on your talk page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nomenclature: Cebu officials

Hi, as always, thank you. I would just like to suggest renaming both Governors and Vice Governors. Would it be okay to rename them to Governor of Cebu and Vice Governor of Cebu, respectively? First, I just found out the existing, similar pages of provincial governments in the Philippines observing this same standard in naming. Second, I am going to develop them not just as lists, but a more comprehensive descriptive pages for both offices, containing history, functions, etc. Third, the title "List" is kind of limiting the scope of the pages. Fourth, and this sort of imagines the future of the pages, renaming them now would prevent other editors to be tempted in creating a separate page for "Governor/Vice Governor" explaining the office, its history, etc and another for list of past/incumbent officers, when they can be found on just one article for each office. It's nothing urgent though, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this. Best regards, Verbosmithie (talk) 05:03, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Verbosmithie Good day. The convention for a job title is low cap - see MOS:JOBTITLES and examples List of governors of California and the two articles you created is more toward stand alone list articles than a normal article. If you want to create a "Governor of Cebu" then look for example such as Governor of New South Wales. You can add lists of of the stand alone list articles under "See also" section. Let me know anything else I could help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIAThank you. I wasn't sure what to do. Pointing me to a model page of California and New South Wales is brilliant! I'd keep this in mind when I'd be developing the pages. Verbosmithie (talk) 13:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Verbosmithie You are welcome. Anything I could help on your constructive contribution to Wikipedia and work is the time was well spent. Pop back here if anything else I could help. Have a wonderful day. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

added sources

Hello CASSIOPEIA, Thank you. I have added two new sources to the draft article. Greetings. Nathan Annick (talk) 11:11, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Annick Greetings. Reviewed and approved. Thank your for your contribution. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. Now I have understand it. Next time I will add more sources. And if you add the article to a new item on Wikidata, I only want to say to you that an item is already existing for the articles on Wikidata in Slovene language. Nathan Annick (talk) 11:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nathan Annick You are welcome. Do find sources from newspapers as they are the best source. This is the Wikidata for the subject -[16]. Would you pls provide the Slovene URL pls so I will link it to the Wikidata. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:32, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is the page in Slovene Wikipedia[17] and this is the Wikidata item of the page.[18] Nathan Annick (talk) 11:48, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nathan Annick thank you. I have merged EN and SL Wikidata to Medvode Hydroelectric Power Plant Wikidata - see [19] (scroll down until you see "Wikipedia" section- there are EN and SL stated. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:59, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #366

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Past: Wikidata Labs XV in Brazil, with an introduction to lexicographical data (slides)
    • Past: Workshop for experienced editors of nl.wiktionary to explore the possibilities of lexicographical data.
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • The US Library of Congress are integrating Wikidata QIDs into their authority files (blog post)
  • Development
    • Deploy the EntitySchema extension on test.wikidata.org and beta.wikidata.org
    • Remove the remaining beta feature config for constraint-suggestions (phab:T220609)
    • Introduce baserevid for conflict checking in Lexeme (phab:T217245)
    • Fix a bug making impossible to get Lexeme Forms and Senses via the API (phab:T223995)
    • Add Wikidata query service lag to Wikidata maxlag (phab:T221774)
    • Allow accessing Wikibase entities from multiple Wikibase databases (phab:T214557)
    • More work to get termbox ready for deployment
    • Add a login warning on mobile termbox editing (phab:T221831)

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  • Advanced item Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user. [20][21]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar).

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15:33, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Corkscrew Peak

Hi CASSIOPEIA,

Thanks for reviewing my article about Corkscreaw peak article.

I don't understand your decision of rejecting it though. You say that the subject needs to have coverage in at least 3 different sources. It's a major hikes in Death Valley, and there are dozens and dozens of articles about this peak. Are you suggesting that I make a link to some of those articles in the wikipedia page. https://www.google.com/search?q=corkscrew+peak — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arno. (talk • contribs) 02:21, May 28, 2019 (UTC)

Hi Arno. Greetings and thank you for the question above. For a article to make it to the mainspace in Wikipedia, first the subject needs to be notable and secondly, the content claimed need to be supported by multiple independent, reliable sources (inline citation) for verification where by the sources talk about the subject in length and in depth. You have only provided one source (pls provide inline citation - see referencing for info and instruction and if the sources are from the web then use the "horizontal" Template:CITE WEB template) and we need at least 2 more independent reliable sources. Sources such as from major newspapers or books (Use Google books to find them if you want) are considered good sources. Please read WP:GOLDENRULE for further information of what I have stated above. Pop back here if you have any further questions for I am here to help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:59, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This rule really doesn't make much sense. This is a major peak in a major US national park. It is referenced on the park website (https://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/hike-death-valley-2018.htm). I could add that site as a reference. But it still wouldn't match the arbitrary rule of 3 sources. If the official website of the park mentions that summit, why do you need two more sources?

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thanks for helping me understand Wikipedia better and especially for showing an interesting in making sure I learn the right ways to do tasks. I have learned a lot from your advice and copying the methods you use in dealing with other editors and making posts. A big thank you for all your much appreciated help! Kc7txm (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kc7txm, Good day and thank you for the barnstar. Anything I could help you to contribute constructively is time well spent and let me know if anything else I could help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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