Talk:E. Jean Carroll

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Citation style

This article's citations (current diff) need significant improvement. The refs themselves need to be formatted appropriately and placed in the body text with ref tags. See WP:FN, WP:REF and WP:CITET. Adrian M. H. 21:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just read the biography portion and tell me that wasn't written by E. Jean Carroll. Getting an F in her only journalism class, etc. makes for a cute story, but it has nothing at all to do with anything important enough for inclusion into her WP page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.169.217.133 (talk) 03:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Uh oh

Time to lock this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C4:C480:19E7:7DF7:DB9F:BD82:1CA2 (talk) 01:02, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Do not remove the references section. Eyer (talk) 01:12, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As regards Personal Life (no marriage info in template?)

At least one source says that the "Trump photo" was at an NBC party (quote) with her then-husband news anchor John Johnson (unquote). Shouldn't there be this kind of material included, assuming that it isn't ghost-written by the subject of the article? 2600:8807:4800:463:65B1:98A5:DB60:DA5B (talk) 04:00, 22 June 2019 (UTC) (Dfoofnik in public mode)[reply]

I added her husband and made n info-box, his page is already linked to hers so I don't see why her page shouldn't be linked to him. Frakkler (talk) 10:38, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal removed ancestry

Could someone please include this person's Jewish ancestry in the article? It looks like a vandal removed the ancestry.

https://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/Jewish-American-columnist-E-Jean-Carroll-claims-Trump-raped-her-593302

P0G41oxepU (talk) 21:06, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This edit [1] wasn't vandalism. Acroterion (talk) 21:11, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The source was bad but the information was excellent. P0G41oxepU (talk) 22:24, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In general, Wikipedia articles don't mention religious identity or ethnicity along with nationality - "Jewish-American" is to be avoided, just as "Lutheran-American" would be inappropriate. Your edit to Paul Krugman's article was similarly inappropriate. If a person's religious or ethnic makeup is a significant part of their identity, it may be mentioned in the article. Since there has been much mischief with agenda-driven editors tagging people as Jewish, such edits are regarded as red flags. Acroterion (talk) 22:31, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the Jared Kushner article mention that they are jewish? P0G41oxepU (talk) 22:43, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because he is and because it's a significant component of his personal identity,. But he's not described as "Jewish-American." Acroterion (talk) 22:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You said: "In general, Wikipedia articles don't mention religious identity." That observation is without a doubt false, I suggest you retract it. P0G41oxepU (talk) 22:54, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence "Paul Krugman is a jew" is problematic because it sounds like it was written by someone who is a fascist or anti-semite. It is therefore better to write that someone is a Jewish American. P0G41oxepU (talk) 22:56, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I said "In general, Wikipedia articles don't mention religious identity or ethnicity along with nationality - "Jewish-American" is to be avoided, just as "Lutheran-American" would be inappropriate." Don't selectively quote me. Read how it is handled in the Kushner and Krugman articles. Acroterion (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lutheran American is very good. Please fix it for me. P0G41oxepU (talk) 23:12, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

hello
why not mention her Jewish ancestry, while many other people are told having jewish ancestors even when they are not themselves jews? Now, if for you "jew" sounds antisemitic, does "american" sound antiamerican, or "chinese" sinophobic?
It looks like her ancestry was hidden very conveniently, as a certain president denied to attack a certain country, and that upset another country which, somehow, has some ethnical links with the abovementionned woman who at the very same time pops out ex oblivio an alledged rape smany years ago so no one could even verify. Yet, I'm not accusing anyone about anything, that's just how things appear. Also, please get informed about Streisand effect
Regards,
2A01:E35:8BA5:E5B0:74AE:9BD7:38AC:68C7 (talk) 07:39, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

'Rape'

ELC says she doesn't want to call the alleged aggression rape because she does not want to disrespect women and children being attacked at the u.S.-Mexico border, but her description ("She continues, 'The next moment, still wearing correct business attire, shirt, tie, suit jacket, overcoat, he opens the overcoat, unzips his pants, and, forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I'm not certain — inside me. It turns into a colossal struggle.' / Carroll added on The Last Word, 'It hurt, and it was against my will.'" (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/writer-e-jean-carroll-no-disrespectful-rape-charges-trump-1220447)) is clearly one of rape. Should the Wikipedia article use this term in more than just saying the BBC called it (a) rape (allegation)? 37.99.49.67 (talk) 02:45, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

She didn't call it rape, so we call it rape (in wiki-voice) only if it is the majority viewpoint of the sources. The reason why we quote BBC is because it seems to be a minority viewpoint. starship .paint (talk) 03:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]