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William Branham

I wondering if someone can get hold of a copy of the letter or letters that King George VI wrote to William Branham it may add credibility to a post on the topic of King George VI seeking healing by prayer. Unless the idea is to keep the page on King George VI completely secular. It's interesting the King's physician Dr John Weir practised homeopathy.

The reference to King George VI on William Branham's Wikipedia page suffices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_M._Branham#CITEREFWeaver2000 Weaver, C. Douglas (2000). The Healer-Prophet: William Marrion Branham (A study of the Prophetic in American Pentecostalism). Mercer University Press. ISBN 978-0-253-20221-5. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artistos101 (talkcontribs) 12:55, 25 April 2017 (UTC) (K. Brookes (talk) 11:25, 4 May 2017 (UTC))[reply]

The content of the article should reflect the relevant literature. Since no biography of George VI mentions Branham, it doesn't belong here. DrKay (talk) 15:53, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
While I would generally want to follow the biographies, I could be persuaded to include material from other reliable sources if there were a compelling case to be made. Does anyone other than Branham himself mention this? Greenshed (talk) 07:00, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Edward VII which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 14:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ISBN 978-0-9560933-8-7

ISBN 978-0-9560933-8-7 is Volume of Valour, which is a privately-published and -printed book written by Granville Stacey Angell and released in 2017. It wouldn't count as a reliable source anyway, because wikipedia doesn't accept self-published sources. Consequently, it cannot be used as a source here. DrKay (talk) 17:29, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Freemasonry

Albert was a keen Freemason, as was Edward VII, and Edward VIII.[1] He was initiated in Navy Lodge, No. 2612, (London, England) in 1919; joined Middlesex Masters Lodge, No. 3420, (Staines-upon-Thames, Surrey) and was Master thereof 1933–1934; was Provincial Grand Master of Middlesex, 1924–1937, Senior Grand Warden 1923–1924 of the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE), Provincial Grand Master Mark Master of Middlesex, 1931–1937, and Past Grand Master of UGLE 1937. He was a Knight Templar joining St George's Preceptory, No. 6, in 1930 and St Michael's Preceptory, No. 164, and was Preceptor (Master) thereof 1930.[2]

In 1936 he became an Affiliate Member of Glamis Lodge, No. 99, which is located near to his wife's family seat, Glamis Castle, Scotland. On 30 November (Saint Andrew's Day) 1936 he was installed as Grand Master Mason of the Grand Lodge of Scotland.[3][4]

References

  1. ^ Paul Calderwood (2016). Freemasonry and the Press in the Twentieth Century: A National Newspaper Study of England and Wales. Routledge. p. 164.
  2. ^ The United Grand Lodge of England: list of Famous Freemasons
  3. ^ Grand Lodge of Scotland, Robert (2019). Year Book. p. 20. ISBN 0902324861.
  4. ^ Famous Scottish Freemasons. The Grand Lodge of Antient Free and Accepted Masons of Scotland. 2010. P.71. ISBN 978-0-9560933-8-7

I think there are 5 problems with the above section, added yesterday:

  1. It's poorly written. Before I copy edited,[1] it was even worse, just an unformatted list of incorrectly punctuated sentence fragments.
  2. It's a very boring, dull and repetitive list of titles held, which could just easily be shortened to 'He was an active Freemason between 1919 and 1937.'
  3. The citations are all about freemasonry, not George VI. That indicates that the content may be of interest in an article on freemasonry but is not usually mentioned in biographies of George VI.
  4. Three of the citations are quite poor quality: they are written by freemasons, published by freemasons and it seems the books are sold only to freemasons because they are not available generally. The isbn links lead nowhere.
  5. It's overly detailed. As Calderwood (the one reliable source) says, biographies of the royal family contain only a brief mention of freemasonry. So, our biography should similarly contain no more than a brief mention. Celia Homeford (talk) 06:40, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"General Lyon" in Malta etc.

This NatGeo episode claims that George was referred to as "General Lyon" when visiting North Africa and Malta during Operation Loader. Agents Garbo and Freak reported to Germany that the King visited troops near Dover, indicating that invasion would come at Calais. Also, the King was reported to be "north" (Fortitude North), sending off the fleet to the invasion (to Norway). Reportedly, George took active part in reading intelligence with Churchill. Based on papers by Alan Lascelles. TGCP (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Syntax

"The King was constitutionally bound to support Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler.[10][61] However..."

"However" is an adverb used to introduce a statement that contrasts with or seems to contradict something that has been said previously. So this makes no sense.

--88.68.41.88 (talk) 16:38, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Syntax

"The King was constitutionally bound to support Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler.[10][61] However, when the King and Queen greeted Chamberlain on his return from negotiating the Munich Agreement in 1938...".

The adverb "however" is used to introduce a statement that contrasts with or seems to contradict something that has been said previously. So this makes no sense.

--88.68.41.88 (talk) 16:41, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]