Talk:The Beatles

Further reading

Jarniewicz, Jerzy; Alina Kwiatkowska (eds.) (2010). Fifty Years with the Beatles. The Impact of the Beatles on Contemporary Culture. Lodz: Lodz University Press. ISBN 978-83-7525-465-5

Notice of an RfC about including the word "The" in song/album article titles

Hello there! I started a discussion on the page Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Music on 7 July, and it hasn't received any responses. This RfC concerns the use of the word "The" in band names in parentheses in the titles of articles about songs and albums. Further elaboration can be found on that discussion page. I would appreciate thoughts from anyone who may be interested in the discussion. Thank you. –Matthew - (talk) 20:47, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Lead sentence awkwardness?

Seems strange that this should be oddly phrased considering the extensive work done on this article over the years, but does anyone find this, the second sentence, confusing? "The line-up of John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr led them to be regarded as the most influential band of all time." (emphasis mine) It makes it sound like the primary reason they are regarded as the "most influential band of all time" is BECAUSE of the fact that the band consisted of J, P, G and R. Obviously the reasons they are regarded as such are because of their songwriting, innovation, etc. etc. etc. Right now the sentence implies an odd cause-and-effect. Would it be simpler (and logically make more sense) to split the two thoughts up? Like: "The line-up consisted of John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr, and they are regarded as the most influential band of all time." (assuming everyone's cool with the encyclopedic properness of the second part, which I assume has been properly cited and all that).

Another way to think of it is that, taken on it's own, there's no reason why you couldn't rearrange that sentence to read "The Beatles are regarded as the most influential band of all time because of the line-up of John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr." Putting it that way clearly doesn't make much sense, but that's basically what the sentence is saying now. Thoughts? 70.91.35.27 (talk) 17:10, 30 July 2019 (UTC)TF