Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 8
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 8, 2020.
List of births, marriages and deaths in Hollyoaks
- List of births, marriages and deaths in Hollyoaks → List of Hollyoaks characters (2018) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely search target, recreation of recently deleted article. — MarkH21talk 23:40, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Article was recently deleted and redirect target makes no sense. Ajf773 (talk) 17:14, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Teeth of Mordor
- Teeth of Mordor → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The "Teeth of Mordor" does not appear to be a place, thing, or anatomical function described in Wikipedia. A movie with this title appears to be referenced exactly once in a filmography, but since the apparent film has no article, no reason to redirect there. I think this is an attempt at "The Towers of the Teeth", but I wouldn't call this a logical search term for that target. Hog Farm (talk) 22:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Thistle Brook (Middle-earth)
- Thistle Brook (Middle-earth) → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not discussed at target article. Hog Farm (talk) 22:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
List of Middle-earth inns
- List of Middle-earth inns → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The topic of Middle-earth inns is not discussed on the target page, or anywhere really. Hog Farm (talk) 22:06, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Duin Dhaer
- Duin Dhaer → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in any article on the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 21:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:25, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Movie theaters and handpainted movie posters
- Movie theaters and handpainted movie posters → Ghanaian film poster (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not a plausible or relevant search term or link. —Matthew - (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Longest Street in North America
- Longest Street in North America → Yonge Street (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Misleading redirect from an implausible search term. While it is true that Yonge Street was once incorrectly labelled by sources as the "longest street in the world", that's been disproven and is no longer claimed -- however, now that it's lost that braggadocious claim and had the sources chop it back down to its actual length, it definitely does not continue to hold the status of being the longest street in North America either, as it's fifteen miles shorter than the length ascribed to Colfax Avenue in Denver CO. And even Colfax Avenue is merely claimed by some, but not all, sources as the longest street in the United States alone. I can find no sources that make any claims as to the longest street in North America as a whole — but even if there is another street longer than Colfax, it definitely isn't Yonge. Bearcat (talk) 20:17, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous and misleading redirect. Hog Farm (talk) 20:41, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per the nominator. Indeed misleading, and risks being that regardless of what it targets. Glades12 (talk) 06:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Noo Yawk
Delete. Not a plausible search term or link. The only plausible explanation for this redirect that comes to mind is that it was meant as a joke. R'n'B (call me Russ) 02:29, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per R3. — Wug·a·po·des 18:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
'Keep Common enough spelling for how it's heard in a New York accent, or at least perceived as such. It's in Wiktionary. Google finds the term having been used in the NY Times and Post, and in other media sources. It might be obvious enough to an American what it is, but someone whose first language isn't English might not know. "I wouldn't search for this term" doesn't mean nobody would. Redirects are cheap. PaulGS (talk) 01:38, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per PaulGS. Redirects like this are cheap N harmless. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 13:10, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Even if a joke, it has significant enough coverage in reliable sources that linking and searching for it are plausible. (We even have an article Noo Yawk Tawk, by the way, also connected to its usage). ComplexRational (talk) 14:37, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Alternatively, retarget to New York English per Glades12 as that seems to be the theme of many RS. ComplexRational (talk) 00:01, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- Do not delete: This has use in reliable sources,[1][2] and is clearly a plausible search term referring to New York English. I am not sure if the current target is the best though. Glades12 (talk) 17:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Dave Anderson (August 5, 1998). "Sports of The Times; Franco's Noo Yawk, Noo Yawk". The New York Times. Retrieved January 1, 2020.
- ^ Sheila McClear (February 6, 2010). "Why the classic Noo Yawk accent is fading away". New York Post. Retrieved January 1, 2020.
Relisting comment: It seems like we have a consensus forming against deletion, but I'd like to see a little more discussion of redirect vs. keep before closing (although obviously if editors feel strongly about deletion they should not hesitate to argue for that point as well)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 20:01, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: Original research: google:Noo+Yawk gives Urban Dictionary Noo Yawk. –84.46.53.207 (talk) 17:14, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:DSC
- Wikipedia:DSC → Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cricket (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There are too many delsort topics starting with C to single out cricket. ミラP 19:41, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- This seems like a pretty cheap retarget/delete given only 10 links. (More likely delete unless someone comes up with a good target.) --Izno (talk) 20:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Girdley Island
- Girdley Island → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 18:47, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:11, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Ignacio Parada
- Ignacio Parada → 2019 Chilean Air Force C-130 crash (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target. In an internet search, I was able to find [1], which would establish that Parada was a passenger on the plane. However, given it is unlikely to ever be DUE to mention at the target, and thus I'd suggest deleting the redirect. signed, Rosguill talk 18:39, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Disparity(Brain)
A redirect with a doubly-malformed qualifier (no space, capital letter) to a DAB page - delete. (Nb The correctly-formed Disparity (brain) exists.) Narky Blert (talk) 15:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 01:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Stephen Gabbard
- Stephen Gabbard → Florida State Seminoles football#Jimbo Fisher era (2010–2017) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not a useful redirect, subject is not notable and not mentioned in target section. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: The nominator here is the same editor who nominated this for deletion when it was an article. Glades12 (talk) 14:39, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to Steve Gabbard. The long snapper is not mentioned anywhere in the current target article (Florida State Seminoles football), so that redirect is useless; but there is an offensive lineman with given name Stephen. Narky Blert (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to Steve Gabbard, who happens to be Stephen Gabbard's father. The younger Gabbard is mentioned at the bottom of his dad's article. Ejgreen77 (talk) 00:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Greenlander(s)
- Greenlanders → Greenlandic Inuit (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These should target the same place. Glades12 (talk) 14:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: Indeed, and you tempted me to try a non-admin closure as IP, but that would require IAR, and I reserve that for serious cases. Please apply
{{sofixit}}
on the singular. –84.46.53.207 (talk)
Wikipedia:Weikfield Foods
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was speedy delete under WP:G6 (uncontroversial maintenance). — Newslinger talk 08:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Weikfield Foods → Weikfield Foods (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Seems to have been created mistakenly by a move to the wrong namespace — MarkH21talk 08:14, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Blue Mountains north of Grey Havens
- Blue Mountains north of Grey Havens → Middle-earth#The Second, Third and Fourth Ages (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This redirect is oddly specific, and is probably too specific to be a logical search term. Hog Farm (talk) 06:17, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: Could we bundle these? Having all of them as separate discussions clogs RFD. Glades12 (talk) 10:57, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Glades12: I agree with you, but I'm not familiar with bundled RfDs, and bundled XfDs often fail on procedural grounds. However, I would be open to bundling very similar ones. If you know how to bundle to an existing RfD, could you either add The Floating Log to the Floating Log entry or point me to where this is explained on Wikipedia? Thanks, Hog Farm (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- How to (manually) bundle RFDs is explained in the second step of WP:RFD#HOWTO. I am not exactly sure which ones should be bundled either, but I think I can add The Floating Log. Glades12 (talk) 20:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Glades12: I agree with you, but I'm not familiar with bundled RfDs, and bundled XfDs often fail on procedural grounds. However, I would be open to bundling very similar ones. If you know how to bundle to an existing RfD, could you either add The Floating Log to the Floating Log entry or point me to where this is explained on Wikipedia? Thanks, Hog Farm (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Four Middle-earth redirects with similar names
- Bralda-hîn → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bralda-hin → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bralda-him → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bralda-hîm → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These items do not appear to be mentioned anywhere on the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 06:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: Originally RfD'd separately, manually bundled to reduce clogging/clutter. Hog Farm (talk) 21:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Brown Lands/The Brown Lands
- Brown Lands → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Brown Lands → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at all in target article. For an explanation as to why I'm RfDing so many of these, AfDs of list articles have led to a lot of stray redirects leading to the section Middle-earth#Geography, and I'm cleaning up the more obscure ones. Hog Farm (talk) 06:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: The Brown Lands was originally listed separately, but has been bundled to reduce clogging. Hog Farm (talk) 21:52, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: Neither Mordor nor The Two Towers mention it, The Brown Lands are irrelevant at the moment and no likely search term. OTOH Brown Lands has a 12 years old edit history, maybe
{{R to section}}
#The Two Towers and wait for better times.
Thinking longer about this, it's actually a generic term, reducing it to Middle-earth violates WP:POLA, on the border to a "harmful redirect" (per policy). How about rename without leaving a redirect (name TBD) + retarget? That would defeat the purpose of keeping historic redirects as is (per policy), but at least preserve the edit history. –84.46.53.207 (talk) 17:34, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Floating Log
- Floating Log → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Floating Log → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the context of Middle-earth (target article) at all. Delete as weird fancruft. Hog Farm (talk) 03:39, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: An inn mentioned once in Lord of the Rings, which the characters don't visit. Very weird fancruft!--Jack Upland (talk) 07:57, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: I added The Floating Log now. Glades12 (talk) 20:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Forsaken Inn
- Forsaken Inn → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Mentioned once, and not at the target article, in a passing sense. No reason to redirect to Bree (Middle-earth) if there's only one minor mention of it there, or to Middle-earth, since no mentions there. Hog Farm (talk) 03:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: this is an abandoned building mentioned once in Lord of the Rings.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Minor miscellaeneous places in Arda
- Minor miscellaeneous places in Arda → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Minor places in Arda redirects to Arda (Tolkien). However, I cannot anticipate "Minor miscellaeneous places in Arda" being a logical search term, even without the apparent misspelling of "miscellaneous." Hog Farm (talk) 03:33, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Ibrahim S. Quraishi
- Ibrahim S. Quraishi → The Night Clerk (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Quraishi Ibrahim → The Night Clerk (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
An editor added Ibrahim S. Quraishi to the cast list of The Night Clerk but Quraishi's part is so insignificant that it's not even listed on IMDb so there's no sense in keeping a redirect. Pichpich (talk) 03:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Also adding Quraishi Ibrahim for the same reasons. Jalen Folf (talk) 07:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Gwathlo
Mentioned approximately four times in all articles in Wikipedia (three articles, none of which are the target article), all very briefly, and with no clear priority for redirect. As an implausible search term, I suggest deletion. Hog Farm (talk) 03:23, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Langwell (Middle-earth)
- Langwell (Middle-earth) → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Mentioned once in the Wikipedia, and the one mention (not the target article) is is in a page that does not seem likely to survive AfD. Hog Farm (talk) 03:12, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: an unimportant fictional river.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Lond Daer Ened (Two spellings)
- Lond Daer Ened → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Lond Daer Enedh → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Does not appear to be mentioned anywhere in the English Wikipedia. Hog Farm (talk) 03:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: Originally nominated separately, but have been bundled due to the redirects' similarity. Hog Farm (talk) 21:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Druwaith Iaur
- Druwaith Iaur → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Mentioned once each in a minor way on three different pages in the English Wikipedia, none of which are the target article. Since this is really obscure fancruft with no clear priority for the redirect, I think deletion is a definite possibility. Hog Farm (talk) 03:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Bundushathûr
- Bundushathûr → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target article whatsoever and implausible redirect target. Is mentioned at Khuzdul, but since Khuzdul is a language article where "Bundushathur" is only mentioned as an example, it makes little sense to redirect there either. Hog Farm (talk) 02:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: Faolin42 (talk) 00:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
All-welcome Inn
- All-welcome Inn → Middle-earth#Geography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target article whatsoever. Appears to have been redirected to the target article after the redirect of the original target. Hog Farm (talk) 02:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: According to this, the inn was only mentioned in a 1960 rewrite of The Hobbit that was never published.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)