Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 31

December 31

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 31, 2019.

Topics related to Cornwall, List of

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:07, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Topics related to Cornwall, List of → Outline of Cornwall (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete "Book-index" type of page title is a very unlikely search term, especially with where it is strangely split (note that redirect List of topics related to Cornwall does exist).UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:45, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Yaviah

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Almost no participation at all even two weeks after being relisted; unlikely to gain more at this point. (non-admin closure) Glades12 (talk) 14:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yaviah → Héctor el Father (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 23:08, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It does mention Yaviah in the Playero 37, Playero 38 Articles. It could redirect there.~SML • TP —Preceding undated comment added 23:58, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:XY per the above and due to a few other minor usages (eg: an artist formerly with Pina Records). I don't think there is anything that would be useful to disambiguate and it appears the search results handle this word well. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:56, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Furioso (horse)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 13#Furioso (horse)

Little house of loreto

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 9#Little house of loreto

Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:06, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi → Sacred Heart School, Sitamarhi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Typo in name, I don't see any value in keeping this redirect. Nothing links to it except a user page and talk page. Also taking into account of the many Sacred Heart School's that don't have this typo redirect if that means anything Steven (Editor) (talk) 21:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as typo and unhelpful. Typing "sacred hea" in the search box gets any reader started. (I couldn't justify redirects from e.g. "Heats (suit)", "None but the Lonely Heat" or "Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heats Club Band" either.) Narky Blert (talk) 23:15, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wowsmith123456@posteo.net

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The result of the discussion was keep. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:05, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wowsmith123456@posteo.net → 2017 cyberattacks on Ukraine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Bit of an odd one. ~~No mention in the article, nor does the word "email" even show up.~~ –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 23:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @User:MJL it's in the top picture of the article. Seems to be the e-mail used by the ransomware. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:13, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Lenticel: Oh, huh good catch. I struck that line from the nomination statement, but I'm going to leave this open. I can't imagine it still would be particularly useful as a navigational tool. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 00:21, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: while not mentioned in the article, it is related. Plausible search term? Maybe. Anarchyte (talk | work) 14:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 09:11, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep as plausible search term since it's allegedly the email used by the ransomware. Willing to reconsider if it turns out there are multiple emails since redirects like these are not something I'd want to see many of. — Wug·a·po·des 18:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Majoritarian socialism

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 9#Majoritarian socialism

Battle of Vega Real

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 January 9#Battle of Vega Real

Online video distributor

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 01:32, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Online video distributor → Over-the-top media service (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Online Video Distributor → Over-the-top media service (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

The specific wording in these redirects is not exclusive to its target, or any target for that matter. For example, someone could look up these terms expecting to find Streaming media or Internet video. It's probably best to just delete these redirects and allow Wikipedia's search function to assist readers in finding the subject they are attempting to locate. Steel1943 (talk) 13:56, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose This also involves the OVD disambiguation page. What would we put there? I must have seen the term somewhere if I added the entry or created the redirects. When I have access to where I believe I saw the term, probably Wednesday, I can be more specific. Unfortunately, there is likely a subscription required for the source I used.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:44, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking at the OVD page, the only connection I see is the line that reads "Online video distributor, also known as over-the-top media services". I would say that line is probably incorrect and should be removed unless there is some sort of reference added into the Over-the-top media service article proving that these redirects are an alternative name for their target. Without such a notable connection, these redirects are no more than unreferenced WP:NEO. Steel1943 (talk) 02:36, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I need to see the source I was looking at when I created the redirect. That will be possible on Wednesday.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:38, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, here's the first source.

Eggerton, John., "FCC Rethinks Over-the-Top Decision, Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 143, Iss. 11, (Mar 18, 2013): 18.

However, it uses the term "over-the-top video distributor". I could change the disambiguation page.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bingo!

Eggerton, John, "For FCC, These Are Defining Times for MVPDs, Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 142, Iss. 26, (Jun 25, 2012): 26.

If I may be permitted to quote, "OVDs (online video distributors) are not like MVPDs because they do not control the transmission path for the programming they deliver." However, the article lists ivi inc., FilmOn and Aereo TV, which offer "online transmission of TV station signals". That's ~~not streaming~~ or over-the-top. (Wait, what I do with WNAM radio is called "streaming".) It's possible that since this article was written, the definitions have changed. Even the article above has changed OVD to "over-the-top". Perhaps the term "online video distributor" is outdated because that model didn't work. However, another source from 2017 says "OVD services provided by Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and Hulu".

Eggerton, John, "Pai Tees Up Fresh Look at Competition, Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 147, Iss. 20, (Sep 4-Sep 11, 2017): 26.

Doesn't look like the redirect has a real meaning now.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm back.

Eggerton, John, "Reading Between Lines On Comcast/NBCU," Broadcasting & Cable; New York: Vol. 141, Iss. 5, (Jan 31, 2011): 20.

No definition but OVD is said to stand for "online video distribution". This is a service that has "just begun" according to an FCC order.

Here's another one.

"Place Your Bets,", Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 141, Iss. 7, (Feb 14, 2011): 24.

The FCC had certain requirements when Comcast and Universal made a deal. "[T]he new acronym - as if we needed yet another one" was OVD, for "online video distributor".— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:58, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vchimpanzee, I'm having trouble understanding your comments, as a potential closer. You're showing uses of the phrase, but you've also said, "Doesn't look like the redirect has a real meaning now." Are you still opposed to deletion? --BDD (talk) 16:09, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, it's not clear. The one meaning that I think led me to create the redirect is one that doesn't seem to be in current use. But there are other meanings. It's just not clear whether the meaning has evolved. This was just one set of sources, and I needed to go there when I had the opportunity. I want to look at some other sources and see what they say.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What do you want to do? I want to look at some more sources before we do anything.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a 2014 definition from a telecommunications law firm which supports keeping the redirect.

Here is an FCC document. I can't easily get to page 59 because there are too many windows open on this computer.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 21:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator comment: Even with the above comments, I still stand by my "delete" stance since my concern has yet to be adequately resolved per the string of comments. Steel1943 (talk) 23:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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ExtremeFFS

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WABC New York

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The result of the discussion was retarget to WABC#New York broadcasters. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 09:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WABC New York → WABC-TV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

WABC-TV is not the only New York station with the base call sign of "WABC" — there is also WABC (AM). Indeed, under FCC station identification policies, "WABC New York" is the ID for the radio station, not WABC-TV. (Worth noting too, that of the five entries on the WABC disambiguation page, only one — for a defunct British radio station — does not refer to a broadcast station in New York City.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:54, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to WABC#New York broadcasters. Given the 4 NYC broadcasters it could refer to, a disambiguation page would be ideal, and per nom, WABC pretty much already does that with the addition of 1 non-new york station. So I divided them into sections so we can retarget the redirect there. — Wug·a·po·des 18:49, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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You Banbury cheese!

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. After further investigation, it seems the quote is relatively famous. Contrary to what I initially believed, is a logical search term. Utopes (talk) 04:16, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You Banbury cheese! → Banbury cheese#Insult (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

You Banbury cheese → Banbury cheese#Insult (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not encyclopedic, and does not appear to be a likely search term besides being a quote from The Merry Wives of Windsor. People searching for information about how "Banbury cheese" is used as an insult would most likely just search for "Banbury cheese". Utopes (talk) 03:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WRN (AM)

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:01, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WRN (AM) → WWHK (AM) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This station has never had the call sign WRN (as best as I can tell, no station has — nor can any broadcast station under current FCC policy), nor has it branded as such. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Noo Yawk

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High Heeled Shoes (album)

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The result of the discussion was delete. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:00, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

High Heeled Shoes (album) → Megan McKenna (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Perhaps it was the working title for Story of Me, but neither her biography or the album establishes it. © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 00:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It was never the working title of her debut album, and is instead just a disambiguation of High Heeled Shoes (song), McKenna's debut single/EP. This redirect serves no purpose to Wikipedia. – DarkGlow (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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