Talk:Glassworks (composition)

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If anyone really cares, this is not an article about a "European Classical" recording. Philip Glass is an American composer. I, however, am not experienced enough to change the characterization of this "stub." Could someone inform me how to do it, or do it themselves? Thank you.

Instruments?

I presume this type of coding: "fl, 2 ssx, tsx, bcl, 2hn, vla, vc" describes the instruments used in each movement, but it is not clear what each means. 86.130.22.139 (talk) 02:55, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flute, 2 soprano saxophones, tenor saxophone, bass cello (or bass clarinet?), 2 horns (French?), viola. Not sure what "vc" is. Perhaps someone of a more musical background than I (I only sing; I don't play an instrument) could identify them more accurately. MXocross (talk) 23:39, 19 November 2012 (GMT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.29.24 (talk)

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Requested move 2 May 2020

It has been proposed in this section that Glassworks (composition) be renamed and moved to Glassworks.

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Glassworks (Glass) → Glassworks – Disambiguation is not needed. 188.30.36.94 (talk) 20:40, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:09, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~. 05:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC) This was my bodged !vote 62.165.200.11 (talk) 06:01, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning oppose. I would have guessed that "Glassworks" referred to the manufacturing of glass (which is separate from the distinct process of glassblowing). Glassworks are at least mentioned in Glass production. In fact, I would retarget Glassworks to Glass production, and move this article to Glassworks (album) or Glassworks (composition). BD2412 T 21:47, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It was moved from Glassworks (composition) in February 2017 by User:Triplecaña, but it had been moved there a month before from the bare "Glassworks" by User:In ictu oculi, although the redirect seems never to have been repurposed and I can find no discussion about it.

Although no reason was given in either move's ES, I assumed that "(Glass)" was chosen to follow WP:NCMUSIC's many examples of disambiguation by last name. NCMUSIC gives no explicit guideline for that, but § by last name only implies it.62.165.200.11 (talk) 05:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is an unusual situation, where the surname of an individual happens to be the common-noun name of a product. It would be comparable to a metal band called "Metal" releasing an album called "Metalworks", with this being disambiguated as "Metalworks (Metal)". Wikipedia should give clarity to readers, and not compromise that because a composer came up with a clever name for their composition. I would find Glassworks (Glass album) or Glassworks (Glass composition) (or even Glassworks (Philip Glass)) to be improvements over this situation. However, I would reiterate that Glassworks should point to Glass production as the primary topic of the term. BD2412 T 15:34, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, perhaps we should move the composition and delete the "(Glass)" redirect per WP:XY. We can't expect readers to distinguish between "glass" and "Glass" in a disambiguating phrase. Same ed, new IP 188.143.76.193 (talk) 23:43, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The composition is most certainly not the primary topic for Glassworks and the current title is just confusing. Return it to Glassworks (composition) and redirect Glassworks to Glass production as a clear primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: fails the "glassworks" test in Google Books in spades. Restore Glassworks (composition) and redirect Glassworks to Glass production In ictu oculi (talk) 21:36, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, retarget Glassworks to Glass production. The problem remains then what to do about Glassworks (Glass). Same ed, new IP 188.143.76.193 (talk) 23:43, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]