Talk:Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam

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Poorly worded?

Is the first paragraph's use of the word "onslaught" biased? I'm quite new to Wikipedia, so I wanted to check with some people first before I edited it to a less aggressive/hostile word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.197.151 (talk) 23:12, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- Seconded.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearsca (talk • contribs) 18:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further to the above, these two passages are slanted. “During the reign of Nader Shah, an anti-Shiite policy was implemented…” “He implemented the following anti-Shia policies…” As the article itself shows, Nader Shah was hardly "anti-Shiite" but pro assimilation of Shii into the fifth accepted school of Sunni Islam. He was a pragmatist, and wasn't as sectarian as whoever wrote this article.

Apparent Plagiarism

The Reasons for Ismail’s conversion policy appears to be written(copy/pasted) verbatim from the references given. This section needs to be re-written immediately. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:23, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i do not understand why this section has been marked as "copied and pasted." is not the section that has been "copied and pasted" taken from sources that are classified as Public domain (since the sources of the information are all from google books)? would not this fact exempt it from being classified as "copied and pasted"? perhaps i am missing something, but i believe the section under scrutiny should have the "copied and pasted" tag removed. i would like to have further clarification of this issue as quickly as is possible. over.Neda Reza Azad (talk) 02:27, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism is not tolerated on wikipedia.

"One of the main reasons for such rigor by Isma'il and his followers was to give Iran ideological distinction and identity vis-a-vis its Sunni military-political enemies, the Ottoman Empire and, for a time the Central Asian Uzbek." -- Modern Iran: roots and results of revolution, by Nikki R. Keddie, Yann Richard, p.11

You wrote, One of the main reasons for such rigor by Ismail and his followers, was to give Iran ideological and political distinction and identity and to distinguish Iran vis-à-vis its two neighboring Sunni Turkish military-political enemies, the Ottoman Empire to the west and, for a time, the Central Asian Uzbeks to the north-east. Which is exactly from the book, which is plagiarism.

Next, "This was only one of several wars between Iranians and the Ottomans, a long struggle providing continue encouragement for the Safavids to strengthen the Shi'i identity of Iran. -- Modern Iran: roots and results of revolution", by Nikki R. Keddie, Yann Richard, p11.

You wrote, Several wars between the Iranians and Ottomans, which were a long struggle, provided continual encouragement for the Safavids to strengthen the Shia identity of Iran. In this case you simply left off This was only one of and copied the rest of the sentence. More plagiarism.

Next, "The Shiitization of Iran was part of the process of constructing a territorialized state apparatus." -- The failure of political Islam, by Olivier Roy, Carol Volk, p170.

You wrote, The Shiitization of Iran was part of the process of constructing a territorialized state apparatus. Completely copying what was said in the book. More plagiarism.

All of this should be removed immediately, instead I'm being cordial and asking for you to re-write the plagiarized section. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:04, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not everything on Google Books is public domain. I'm browsing a book right now that's copyrighted just like any other book would be. Even if it were a public domain book, though, it would still be plagiarism. -- Soap ^Talk/_{Contributions} 04:18, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i will get to re-writing the copy-pasted part as soon as i am able. kansas bear, i truly appreciate your entrusting me firstly to improve the article i created for wikipedia. this makes me feel very valued in the wiki community and trusted to act responsibly. thankyou very much. Neda Reza Azad (talk) 07:03, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shia's were always the majority among persians of the western plain

yeah :P--108.173.174.134 (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]