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The information added to the Alicia Garza Wikipedia page is relevant to the topic. Having a section for notable speeches makes it easier for people to trace her growth and popularity as well as sources of some videos and memorable quotes of her speeches. How do you plan on distinguishing which of her speeches/appearances count as notable and worthy of adding to the Wikipedia page? The tone of the writing is neutral and fits the tone of the rest of the page. Is there any details you can add about her work with the Bay Area organizations outlined in the "Other Work" section (i.e. start and end dates, location, type of work)? Sources are decent, can you find any sources other than the YouTube videos that maybe discuss why thosehello speeches are relevant? Great work :) Devinasen (talk) 22:00, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marxist? Not seeing it

I have removed a citation to a piece about Garza written by Tiana Smith, a college student who volunteers at BlackPast.org. BlackPast is an online encyclopedia,[1] but not all of its entries are from established historians. The BlackPast piece about Garza said she was Marxist,[2] but it held no supporting quotes or documentation to support that label. Unless there's an explicit quote or analysis from a reliable source, we must remove the label. Binksternet (talk) 14:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's pretty clear that she is. Opal Tometi, another co-founder of BLM, has also visited with Nicolás Maduro, and his ruling PSUV party is inspired by Marxism. So while there may not be an explicit quote with her stating such (at least so far), she associates with people that have met with people inspired and guided by Marxism. Although, I agree, it would be helpful to have an explicit statement to absolutely confirm this. 2601:8C:4581:1150:806A:ADEB:FDCE:4186 (talk) 05:56, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps as "She was described by BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors as a 'trained Marxist'" https://web.archive.org/web/20150724223101/http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14319. I think this is more than hearsay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.208.116.95 (talk) 21:14, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you do an Internet search on what groups are spreading this video and information about the subject, they are all on the conservative side and it seems to be part of a campaign to discredit Black Lives Matter. The video in question is from 2015, and doesn't provide any context about what that comment means, or how it relates to BLM as an organization. It could be one of several training sessions in a variety of ideology done by the subject. And just because a leader might believe a certain way, that doesn't mean the movement as a whole is that way. I can't find a more recent source where the supposed "Marxist" training is mentioned. Mdus5678 (talk) 04:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right, because OANN didn't report on it. Oh, wait silly me. OANN isn't a "credible source" because they don't support the liberal narrative, and bow to the threat of cancel culture.
Does this count? [1]