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The associated page is used in conjunction with the Mediawiki m:SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that override Meta's blacklist. Any administrator can edit the spam whitelist. Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions (sites to unblock), Proposed removals (sites to block), or Troubleshooting and problems; read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. Please enter your requests at the bottom of the section and sign your requests with four tildes: ~~~~ Also in your request, please include the following The link that you want whitelisted in section title, like === example.com === The page that you want to use the link on. Explain why it would be useful to the encyclopedia article proper. Completed requests are archived, additions and removal are logged.

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Proposed additions to Whitelist (sites to unblock)

www.ruswar.com

Propose to unblock this site on pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_photography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salang_tunnel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

• I have moved this request by 216.244.26.42 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) to the bottom of the list. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 18:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

According to the blacklist request here this IP address has spammed this website across many different language wikis. Consider this request to be  Not done for now. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 18:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

This is true. This subject was discussed on blacklist discussion room. What is the promblem with photography? The site exists as a Collection of Afghanistan War Photography/Documentary and dos not make language difficulty for international users. There is no another site like this one can offer international users visual source of Afghanistan-Soviet war. The forementioned site can not be a spam to the due no commercial interests, advertising goods or politics. I know, there is no equel site like ruswar.com even in Ru-Net. I want you understand, I'v been on that war, I know this subject. It is not spam - it is a history, memory and notice for the people around the world. Check Ruswar.com youself - any critics will be accepted.

The problem isn't the website... the problem is how you are abusing wikipedia to promote your website. If you wish to share your pictures please release them under GFDL and upload them to wikipedia-commons. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 05:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The problem is common human envy, then somebody does better then you. You want me to upload the whole photo/video collection under wikipedia logo and give up copyright? That's what you mean? At first, I do not promote anything, neither my website nor pictures. Promotion is - to attempt to sell or raise in position for further sale. I do charity work spending my own time and finance, because it is my obligation to the people who died on that war. Second, it is not me who abuse Wikipedia. Very few individuals, who became Wiki-Admins, begun to abuse the power which other people entrusted them. I think it is time to review qualification of wiki-admins and they ability to perform such work.

If you pick the correct license, you can still control the copyright of the image. Creative Commons might be the license that you could use if you decide to let us use some of your photographs. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 04:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Please review our conflict of interests guidelines. Oh, and accusing someone of abusing power is surly not a way to win an argument.

If a consensus of editors on the talk-page of the article you want to include a link on comes to the conclusion that the link should be included I would be willing to overlook the Conflict of Interests issue and white list specific pages on that domain. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 18:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, my spare time is limited. I have lot's of undone things on my own website, and physicaly I am unable spend more time for studing sort of hidden policies, restrictions, web-technics, meta-codes, Java scripts and endless correspondence. Especially then people unwilling to admit own mistakes and try to look righteous at any cost. Leave it at your discretion.

It's your website and Wikipedia's guidelines request not adding links to your own website.

Consensus is how things work around here. Consider this request  Not done until a consensus to include the links forms. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 22:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

If you think consensus is required, ok, do it. You know that things and how they work. You are admin here, not me. But, if you keep ignoring people opinion and block anti-terrorist site, it seems like there is a plot or conspiracy here. Otherwise you compel me to send reguest for consensus to the appropriate goverment agencies. If ruswar.com does not fit requirement for Wiki, please give strong and clear arguments, not a lame excuse. I represent people will, not my personal.

Watch the WP:LEGAL stuff please. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Our rules say that people are prohibited from adding links to promote their personal websites. This is not an argument on the relative merits of the website. If you want to argue the merits of the website, in this particular case, this is not the venue for you.

Oh, and wikipedia works on the idea that the person wanting to include content is the one who must seek consensus and justify the inclusion. Not the other way around.

Lastly, if you wish to peruse this in the courts, that is your right. However, if you continue to make threats of doing so, Wikipedia will block your access to edit until the legal dispute is resolved. That's Wikipedia's right. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 20:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Why should I start lawsuit against Wikipedia? Nothing is wrong with Wikipedia. The thing what I talk about its report to federal investigation agency regarding your activity in certain way. What is actualy done. There is more information you may find on Wikipedia in section Patriot Act. I hope you will find lot's of useful information for youself. What makes you think before you start to speak or to do anything. You want to keep blocking anti-terrorist sites, go ahead.

So now it's come to this... I either unblock your website or I'm an unamerican terrorist supporter? Do you have an idea who I am? Of course not! Do you know my political stance? Of course not! Do you even care or are you just spewing out nonsense in some kind of attempt to make yourself feel morally superior? Feel free to report wikipedia to whomever you want. Wikipedia has the right to block spammers.

I've given you the path to get your website unblocked. YOU are the one choosing not to peruse it. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 14:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The message was addressed to Mr.Eagle - the initial actor of this mess. But, I can also reply to your message as well. Who you are - it's not hard to guess. You just revealed your real face. You just said you have right to block spammers. Ok, identify spammers exactly then. Military non-profit website is spammer? Died soldiers, whom this Work devoted are spammers? War photography and documentary are spam? It is all clear with you. Of course, you have no personal website - you need to have creative mind for this. Of course, you did not served in Military Service - you need to have guts for this. The one thing you did - usurp admin keys from Wikipedia and imagine youself as a "God" and deside which website to unblock, which website to block. And you want people to beg for you as Almighty. But we are, veterans of military and all supporters turn to investigation department instead. Despite you are spaming here under nickname, I believe your real name is in federal database already. I asked people on various forums to take a close look at this correspondence and send reports as deem as nesessery. I do not need your reply, keep all your answers for the future legal questioning.

www.ainfos.ca

proposal to unblock this site on history of democracy page, or at least on the associated talk page. theres a debate going on in the talk page, as to whether theres enough scholarly material on the subject to merit a section on democratic phenomena among other animals. I tried to post a link in the talk page to the one article I found, discussing a scholarly mathematical paper. [ www.ainfos.ca/03/jan/ainfos00233.html ] so that other editors could read for themselves. a screen came up indicating it was blocked. Not sure why this site was blacklisted in the first place. the site has a political agenda but that doesn't preclude having useful articles. Unlesss theres a specific reason, I think the whole site should be removed from blacklisting. At minimum, this particular article should be whitelisted for history of democracy, or at least its the talk page. Jvol 13:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

blog.myspace.com/firerescuelieut

I understand why MySpace links are blocked on articles as they are strictly for social networking and really do not have a place in an actual article. With that being said, I had this link on my personal information page where it was removed by one of the article reviewers. It was very relevant to my personal information page as it is a running journal of my firefighting activities. This is supposed to be a page explaining me and what I am about, and this journal is a significant part of what I am about. I would compare this to putting an external link to a band's official web site off of their Wikipedia page.

The reviewer told me to add it back in, but when I did the "Spam protection filter" kicked in, preventing me from doing so. So, here I am. If possible, can only this web page (not the entire blog.myspace.com) be "whitelisted" only for my personal page, so it is not inadvertently used on a regular article?

Firerescuelieut 02:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

No Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 04:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Betacommand, it would be nice if you could explain your reasoning...

 Not done we traditionally only add websites to the white-list when they are required for use in articles. The desire to add a link to your personal website is secondary to the concerns of the project. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 05:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I can live with that answer. Thanks. Firerescuelieut 03:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

www.gravinaoggi.it/pg097.html

Diocesan site of the Bishopric of Gravina and Montepeloso (see this update: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bishopric_of_Gravina_and_Montepeloso&oldid=81966610 ) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JASpencer (talk • contribs) 20:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

 Done ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 22:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

test ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 22:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

unblock (ipetitions.com)

ipetitions.com because there a petition related to an article: Televsion New Zealand —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ddogg2 (talk) 02:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

 Not done: the site fails the guidelines set forth in WP:EL. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 05:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

oseculoprodigioso.blogspot.com , once again

This is a new request to add this site to the English Wikipedia whitelist. An admin at the global backlist declined to remove it globally and sent me back here full circle. The text below is adapted from the request I posted over there. Please consider it here seriously in the light of the additional information developed over the several discussion of the site since my first request on 9 February.

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I request that this site be removed from the blacklist. If this is not the appropriate place to request a world-wide removal, please treat this as simply a request to remove the site from the blacklist of the English Wikipedia.

There was an earlier discussion of the site here in Talk:Spam_blacklist here in which other editors felt the site added value to Art articles and should not be blacklisted. I hope I have not screwed anything up by pursuing the issue for a time over in Whitelist Talk instead of here because I didn't really understand the relationship between the two lists. Now I am back here based on a suggestion made in Talk:Spam-whitelist, where there has been a separate discussion of the site here. Taken together, the two discussions are rather lengthy, but to summarize, from my viewpoint:

• An over-enthuiastic site owner added links to his collection of fine art images, by artist, to several art articles (not sure how many, but maybe 20 or 30 in the English Wikipedia)
• These were correctly identified as spam because of the way they were added
• However, the site houses a broad and rich collection of artwork images for famous and respected artists, with many works that are unfamiliar (at least to me)
• The links add value to Wikipedia by greatly extending the number of available examples of each linked artist's work
• The site has no ads and is not selling anything
• Several legitimate editors support de-blacklisting the site.

I have absolutely no affiliation with this site or its owner, I am just an admirer of the collection. Thank you for considering this request. --CliffC 20:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

• Endorse this I think I commented in a previous discussion here. Images are good, site is not commercial. I've never added it myself, but have found it on several articles in en (many now have taken it off). 87.194.23.18 18:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC) (Johnbod from en)

 Not done, used for cross-wiki spam. Request whitelisting on your local project. Naconkantari 18:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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Please consider whitelisting this site. Thank you. --CliffC 21:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't there a concern over the copyright status of the images on that website? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 20:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

You are probably remembering comments made after the original whitelist request was archived, then copied back from the archive by me to reactivate it. You and others added comments to the reopened entry, now also archived, corrected link here. Your final comment in that entry (emphasis mine) was "Looking into this a little further it appears most (80-90%) of the images are in the public domain... however, some of the images (The Goat and the Flowers for example) are published recently enough to still be under copyright. The blog could probably qualify under a fair use claim however." Your saying that encouraged me to take my request back over to the Blacklist to try to get the site off the global blacklist but my request was denied. Now I am back here trying to get the site whitelisted in the English wikipedia. Thanks for taking the extra time to review all this material. In summary, links to all earlier discussions are (as of this date):

• 2 Feb original de-blacklist request by 24.7.101.196, with discussion
• 9 Feb English whitelist request by me, with discussion
• 25 Feb de-archived and expanded English whitelist request, with discussion
• 8 March second de-blacklist request, with discussion

--CliffC 22:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the background... but at this point the actual copyright status of that collection is under question. The 20% is the part we are worried about... much of it MIGHT be a violation of the copyrights. If it is, we can't link to the page period and any kind of white listing discussion would be irrelevant. Many of those images would still be covered by modern copyright law and the case that the images are not covered by fair use would be fairly strong. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 02:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I can see the problem. Too bad, the site was a great resource to view some lesser-known works by famous artists. I know that Wikipedia has become more copyright-sensitive in recent months. Looking into the copyright status of the content at every Wikipedia external link sounds like the logical next step. That will be a tough one. --CliffC 17:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It is unfortunate... However, we could take any of those images that have passed into the public domain and upload them to wiki-commons. That is an option. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 14:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

viartis.net/parkinsons.disease/

viartis.net/parkinsons.disease/ is an information web site concerning Parkinson's Disease. It is the most comprehensive web site on Parkinson's Disease - far more comprehensive even than the Wikipedia article. Consequently, it appears on all of the Parkinson's Disease web sites including National Parkinson's Disease organisations and Parkinson's Disease patient forums.

1. viartis.net was blacklisted after being added to only one Wikipedia article on only one occasion, for 15 minutes, on the 13th August 2006.

2. The brief addition was directly relevant to the article, which concerned Parkinson's Disease, and was added merely as a reference to further detail concerning that subject.

3. There is not even one advert on the entire web site. It does not promote anything or anyone.

4. According to Wikipedia's definition of spam, it did not fulfill any of the definitions of spam.

5. There is no reason why it should have been blacklisted, which appears to have been in error.

--XX7 21:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• How reliable is that site? For example, it lists Hitler as having had Parkinson's, but last I saw there was only a single speculative source for that claim. Guy (Help!) 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Hitler had Parkinson's Disease for at least twelve years (1933-1945). It is widely acknowledged that Adolf Hitler had Parkinson's Disease, in books, articles and documentaries. It appears on National Parkinson web sites and also on Wikipedia under famous sufferers. This fact was purposefully covered up by the Nazi party during WWII, but is detailed in the diaries of Hitler's personal physician Theo Morrell, who diagnosed him and was treating him for Parkinson's Disease for many years. --XX7 10:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

• I think the venue you seek is the blacklist page... I haven't checked your claims, but it does sound like it doesn't really need to be on the blacklist any more. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 03:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It was requested on the blacklist that it come here. It is very apparent by checking the web site, which contains no adverts at all and is entirely non-commercial that it doesn't fulfill any of the requirements for blacklisting. It was added to the blacklist by mistake due to being confused with a completely different web site. --XX7 10:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, if you can show me that your site is not related to this (a translated copy of this), I will whitelist, as it does seem to be a decent source to me, though I'm not sure how reliable it is. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 16:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what relation the other web site is supposed to have to the Viartis web site. However, the web site you refer to concerns Latin, and Viartis also happens to be a latin word. Other than that the two web sites have nothing in common. --XX7 22:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Does that answer it, or is there something on that other web site that I have not addressed ? --XX7 15:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I asked the original blacklister for input as to what that means, if there is no reply in a few days, I will consider removing the site from the blacklist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 02:07, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

If by "that" you mean Viartis, I looked it up in a Large Latin dictionary but couldn't find it, so it appears to be a rare Latin word. "Via" means "road" or something like it because the names of most Roman roads have "Via" in them. "Artis" must mean way or path, because the pharmaceutical company Novartis was named after Nova Artis, which they said meant "new way" or "new path". It's certainly not an offensive term. --XX7 22:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Can it be removed from the blacklist now ? --XX7 20:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

"I asked the original blacklister for input as to what that means, if there is no reply in a few days, I will consider removing the site from the blacklist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 02:07, 30 March 2007 (UTC)"

It's well beyond a few days so surely it's time to remove it from the blacklist. It should never have been there. --XX7 21:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

This web site has now been removed from the Blacklist, so it is no longer an issue here. --XX7 13:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

blog.myspace.com/blaqkaudio and blog.myspace.com/tigerarmy

I'm working on the Blaqk Audio page. I've rewritten a comprehensive draft, with a heavy use of references. Those references include several myspace blog links.

The specific blog entries I've referenced are here:

blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=161463843&blogID=242084891 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=161463843&blogID=235157738 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=161463843&blogID=235885935 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=161463843&blogID=238646604 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=161463843&blogid=241493370 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=2730455&blogID=235948500

Davey Havok and Jade Puget, the band members, have heavily used the band's myspace blog to provide fans with lyrics, potential release dates and important information about the formation and origin of the project. It is a vitally important link - especially with the sparsity of information about Blaqk Audio at the moment. I believe that there is no other place to find this information, and so I think that these links should be added in order to make the Blaqk Audio page a quality resource.

Tiger Army's myspace blog also has a specific entry where lead singer Nick 13 mentions that he has provided backing vocals for the album.

Thanks for your help. Mnesimache 17:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, how do we know it is them? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 16:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

artnet.de/artist

Hi! I was trying to edit Joseph Finnemore a few days ago and got "Spam protection filter"-ed for "http://www.artnet.de/artist". (The link was in the original article from August 2006.) It seems to be a legit site; link to an old print. I asked what the objection was at Talk:Spam blacklist but that just started a lively, if semi-anonymous, discussion with no answer.

So, is it a bad site? If not could it be un-blocked? Thanks, --Saintrain 21:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is why the site is currently on the blacklist see here. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 06:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

blog.myspace.com/kylecease

I was adding information about an upcoming stand-up special by comedian Kyle Cease and cited my sources using his official Myspace blog, which is the only place on the itnernet that confirms everything I had written. However, blog.myspace.com is blacklisted, as you probably already know.

Here is each specific blog page:

blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=25515051&blogID=241574822&Mytoken=5853C83B-DE7D-4116-954B35E6D1DB4A526932186 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=25515051&blogID=215878909&Mytoken=5853C83B-DE7D-4116-954B35E6D1DB4A526932186 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.controlcenter&Mytoken=654C4C21-B18E-4453-8E490861B4BB1F007285311 blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=25515051&MyToken=37537cb2-d6f7-43e7-96e9-949489d7bc02ML

Again, this is the comedian's OFFICIAL Myspace blog and the only place that has the information I needed to reference. Not even his official website contains all the information I need. Please unblock the use of this particular Myspace blog on the wiki for Kyle Cease. Thank you, --Daytonafathead 00:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

A question I have is this; how do we know this myspace blog belongs to him. Is there text on his website saying it? If so, there should be no problem adding the links to the whitelist. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 01:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes there is. Also, the myspace is linked from his official website at kylecease.com --Daytonafathead 01:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Good enough for me. Another admin, experienced in adding the links, will add the URLs in later. Thanks. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Nobody has fixed the page's whitelist yet. I still can't link to those pages. Daytonafathead 21:41, 24 March 2007

Just a question... if we don't have multiple reliable sources, is the info being added really needed? Again just wondering. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 16:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

soargbsc.com

I would like to add information about the Greater Boston Soaring Club to the Sterling Airport page, from which the club operates.

A link to the main page would be useful.

Thanks!

Jeff Albro 22:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Mmmm where are we adding this link? Is it going to be used as a source? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 16:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't seem appropriate to add this information to the article anyway... Can you find independent sources (good ones, like newspapers, etc) about the "Soaring Club"? If not, then it wouldn't be appropriate to include it in the article I'd think. If so, then I wouldn't have much of a problem white listing the page. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 20:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The Soaring Club page has photographs of and information about the Sterling Airport, and the club is a major reason to visit the airport. I figure people reading about the airport would want to learn more about the goings on there. Jeff Albro 22:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Are there newspapers or anything that mention this club? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 06:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

General newspapers? Not that I could find with a Google search, and I'm not going to spend hours in the local library to prove it. I understand the preference for better sources, but I'm not trying to prove who killed Kennedy, I'm trying to link to something that someone who is already reading the article will find useful. Why is soargbsc.com on the blacklist anyway? Jeff Albro 21:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I've added the note to the article without the link. I guess the current guideline of Wikipedia is "edit boldly, link with permission". Jeff Albro 20:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Gee, I'm sorry that wikipedia's policys and guidelines are not your liking. Should I just unblacklist everything for you? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 22:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course not, but a) never blacklisting a site without a recorded reason and b) having a way to un-blacklist a site by showing that reason either no longer applies or never applied in the first place would be a good thing. Jeff Albro 23:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Userspace wuotan blog link

My Blog URL blog.myspace.com/aesirwuotan]This is blacklisted in my user space; I did not find any rules restricting blog address in user space and I think it is permitted in talk space as well, if I'm wrong about that tell me. Blog links certainly should be permitted in talk and its vandalism to delete links in my user space. Wuotan 15:25, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

blog.myspace.com is on the meta blacklist, if you give me a use of that link in an article I will whitelist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 16:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Adam Warren's MySpace blog.

I'm working on Adam Warren's page and I would like to add a few links to his MySpace blog for the referances. I'd post them in the title but there is two of them and they are extremely long You can get to them by going to his MySpace and checking out "The day of EMPOWER(ED)ment is upon us!" and "EMPOWERED vol. 1: Delayed at the printer, alas.". They deal with his newest series and I figure its best to get the info strait from the horse mouth. Thank you. Lando242 06:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Right, how do we know that is really him? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 16:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Do we have any indication that it's not? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 20:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

If its not him its a damn good fake. The MySpace and deviantART cross link each other and they both seem to have exclusive access to some of his art and stuff thats not been posted on the net before (to my knowledge at least). It could be a shill site done by a publisher or his agent but I doubt it. Seems a lot of professional artists are making their own sites like this nowadays and I just took it on faith that it was really him. Either way the sites are already linked from his wiki article, and I just want to link directly to the blog section for the references section I'm working on (the update I'm working on is still in the sandbox). All the info there seems to mesh with whats coming from his publishers. Lando242 00:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you understand the principles behind "Undue Weight"? Much of the stuff you can -only- source using primary sources (ie, a blog) is inappropriate for inclusion in wikipedia. If no one outside of the subject of the article cares... why should we write about it? Now, I don't really know much about the subject of the article and I don't really care about Adam Warren... so I'll take your word for it. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand, but his blog is not the only source I'll be quoting for the info. Like I said its just for a ref section and I figured citing multiple sources for a current event would be better than just one. Even more so if one was the author himself. Lando242 17:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

There is other info, that makes what is said in the blog important. :) Can I see? Cheers! —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll get around to finishing it up in the next few days and post it without the refs and see if I can add them later. Lando242 02:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

hometown.aol.co.uk/imckillopi/ - An AOL Hometown-based site

Hi, I'd like the hometown.aol.co.uk domain to be unblocked, as there is a site on there belonging to a noted British Christian artist called Iain McKillop, resident in the parish of Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Ewell, where one of his most important works (a set of the Stations of the Cross) resides. He has a large number of photos (including of the Stations) on that site, which could be linked to usefully.--Vox Humana 8' 08:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

do we know it belongs to him? and will it be used as a source, if so where. Thankyou. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 06:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, we do. As it happens, while I am here in my study at home on the PC, Mr McKillop is downstairs in my lounge, talking to my parents. I have confirmation from him that he owns the website and all copyrights related thereto. If you don't believe him, e-mail him through the link given on the website in question.--Vox Humana 8' 22:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, and the second part of my question? Eagle 101 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

• Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Ewell (where he is a parishioner and where he has given a set of the Stations of the Cross and Resurrection);
• Gloucester Cathedral (he has recently installed a set of paintings in the Lady chapel there, plus he has produced two different painted views of the cloister there);
• Guildford Cathedral (another important work of his - a depiction of the first Pentecost - is displayed in a side-chapel there, plus he has produced a painting of its interior);
• University of Gloucestershire (in whose chapel are murals depicting the life of St. Mary and St. Paul, to whom the chapel is dedicated - these were dedicated by George Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury);
• Strawberry Hill, an important early Gothic Revival mansion house near London (parts of which Iain has painted a set of 18 paintings - these were commissioned by the Friends of Strawberry Hill;
• Sainte-Chapelle in Paris, of which he has produced a painting;
• Wells Cathedral, of which he has produced a painting:
• Cologne Cathedral, of which he has produced a painting.

I also know that he is working on a set of Stations of the Cross for installation in St. Edmundsbury Cathedral - as and when he completes them and gets them on his website, they too could be linked to. I hope that this helps.--Vox Humana 8' 20:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Do we really need a link to him in all those articles? Does this guy have a wikipedia article? If so, why don't you put the link there, and then use normal wikilinks to allow people to click on his name. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily all of them, but Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Ewell (as his personal church), Strawberry Hill (as being a major project for which he was commissioned) and Guildford Cathedral (as being the mother church of the Anglican diocese in which he lives would all seem suitable. Iain doesn't currently have a page on here - that's something I'd seek to remedy through the aegis of WP:Surrey, which I started. However, I think, if I remember correctly, that (as he is a personal friend of my family) I couldn't create an article for him without violating WP:COI. Still, if an article was created, I'd certainly like to put a link in there. Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Ewell really would need it, too. I hope that answers your question. - Vox Humana 8' 17:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Right, and as you are related to him here, it might be a good idea to get some other editors to comment on this links suitability. Just an idea, and sorry for not seeing the post, I seem to be one of the few maintainers of this and the m:talk:spam blacklist. Cheers! —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 20:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't really see any problem with unblocking this. The subject is borderline notable, and certainly in a position of authority on certain topics, (these Churches/the artwork therein) therefore, his word is a valid source. Is it just going to be used as external links in the articles on the Churches/Possibly a primary source in a potential article about the artist? Or do you want to use it as a source? I only had a brief look around (and, on a side note, I rather like the artwork) but I couldn't find much information, mostly just galleries. J Milburn 00:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

If it is just galleries, why not have the person try and upload some of the photos here under either a GFDL or Creative Commons license. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 04:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Since User:Vox Humana 8' said he was reluctant to create an article on McKillop due to COI, I suggest he might create a proposed article in his own userspace, and then ask someone else to review it for moving into main space. I don't favor the idea of him adding the proposed link to McKillop's AOL site to so many articles. If McKillop is willing to release some shots of his work on GFDL that would greatly strengthen the case for an article. I'm not yet convinced the AOL site should be unblocked: there are only three paintings shown, and the site is not very informative. EdJohnston 04:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

There are many, many more than that: I have counted a total of seventy-eight on various pages linked off the homepage, which is located at hometown.aol.co.uk/imckillopi/Gethsemane.html. I think you'll agree that's too many for him to upload.--Vox Humana 8' 17:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

As for creating an article in userspace - I'll be seeing Iain McKillop tomorrow as he's coming to my dad's fiftieth birthday bash... as it is, though, I don't have enough biographical info to do a decent job on it.--Vox Humana 8' 17:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

It would be unreasonable for him to upload so many pictures into Wikipedia. A dozen at most would make sense. A picture actually added to an article is more useful than one off in someone's picture gallery, because that opens a spam problem. (Everyone's picture gallery would need to be constantly reviewed, for relevance). EdJohnston 20:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

How did this site come to be blacklisted? That might help us figure out whether to whitelist it.--A. B. ^(talk) 04:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Probably because it's on the AOL Hometown server.--Vox Humana 8' 14:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Yelena Zamolodchikova

... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ale72 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

Sorry to write it again, but my proposed addition to Whitelist for the gymnast Yelena Zamolodchikova has been archived without a final answer about my request. That link is still blocked! Here is the link to the the privious discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Archives/2007/03#Yelena_Zamolodchikova

(it's a 2.5 months old request!)

Sorry... when I got involved here we archived alot of stale requests. I'll take a look at this again when I get some more time. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

www.fxwords.com

Propse to whitelist www.fxwords.com. Although this site still contains advertising cited in its blacklisting, the site has articles relevant to a number of sections in wikipedia. Additional country info for Economic indicator - see www.fxwords.com /b/balance-of-payments-reports-by-country.html , /g/gdp-and-output-reports-by-country.html, /c/confidence-and-sentiment-reports-by-country.html, /p/price-wages-and-sales-reports-by-country.html, /m/monetary-policy-money-and-interest-rates-by-country.html, /e/employment-reports-by-country.html Images for Candlestick chart see www.fxwords.com /c/continuation-candlestick-patterns-.html, /b/bearish-reversal-patterns.html, /b/bullish-peversal-formations.html 72.5.142.135 22:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I probably blacklisted this site to start with, I don't recall, but I will recommend that we do not whitelist this site, at least not the full domain. Request small parts of the site to be whitelisted. www.fxwords.com/someSubPage, preferably as a source. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Understood, thank you for the clarification. 69.12.154.153 02:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

www.mpwrestling.f2b.be

I need this site to add to the Links page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum-Energy_Pro_Wrestling because it is their website. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LukeJC (talk • contribs) 02:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

 Not done the article has been deleted. -- zzuuzz^(talk) 00:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

nefac.net

I propose that this site be added to the white list. I would like to keep the link nefac.net/node/166 on the Charlotte Wilson page. Dumpster 14:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

 Done whitelisting nefac.net/node/166. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 16:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. How about this one too: nefac.net/node/161 for the Murray Bookchin page. Dumpster 22:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

www.isbn-check.com

Useful site, that we have had for ages on the ISBN special page and link to inproject pages where we discuss ISBNs. Put on the mediawiki blacklist becuse it contains affiliate links. We don't have a policy of banning sites with afiliate links. This has made difficulties with talk pages. Rich Farmbrough, 11:45 4 April 2007 (GMT).

This really sounds like something you should challenge on the blacklist page... ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 14:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

www.trebuchet.r8.org

The website is the homepage for the company, Trebuchet Games Studios. Please do not block it, it is not spam, and I am not promoting the company or site, just adding factual information. Please don't block it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doubleobenny (talk • contribs) 16:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

•  Not done - this won't even be consitered until there is an actual article to use this link in. (Trebuchet Games Studios has been deleted) ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 14:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

thomaschen.freewebspace.com/catalog.html

There is nothing that shows any sort of spamming on this site

Ok, what article do you intend to use the link in? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 14:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

portixos.xf.cz

portixos.xf.cz - I didn't found any spam material there... I intend the use of the link in PortixOS category. Inflater 19:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you give us a deeplink, so we don't have to whitelist the whole domain. Something like portixos.xf.cz/something will do. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Sure, portixos.com/index.htm - the main index will do the trick. You need to replace .COM with .XF.CZ. If not, a English speaking user can visit here: portixos.com/index_en.htm and forum is avaible at portixos.com/forum . (Change .COM with .XF.CZ.) But it will be good if you will remove at least the "index.htm" from blacklist, please. Inflater 18:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, wait don't we want the english link? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 18:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Wait, don't the user want to decide to visit a Slovak site (if he can understand Slovak language) or he wants to visit the ("multilingual") forum using the main index site?... Inflater 15:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Radio Caroline

The following link is currently blacklisted: radiocaroline.servemp3.com This is the primary streaming link for Radio Caroline which has an extensive page on Wikipedia. For completeness I request that this primary streaming link be whitelisted so that it can be added to the Radio Caroline page. Thank you.Charles 22:28, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Rightly or wrongly (I'd be inclined towards the latter), the present day Caroline is documented in Radio Caroline (onshore). As such, that link would be wholly appropriate imho in Radio Caroline (onshore) but much less so in Radio Caroline, which covers the offshore pirate radio era. --kingboyk 22:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. Sounds good to me.Charles 22:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I modified the post to make the link legible. (all I did was remove the (dot) and replace with . and take off the http://) —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 18:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

 Done -- Nick ^t 22:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

online-casinos.com

This site used to be listed in the whitelist and I think it has been removed by a mistake. In the en:blackjack article just below the playing strategy chart the article contains the following text: "...but requires a slightly modified basic strategy table (such tables can be generated using the external links)." This quote used to refer to an external link to the following page: online-casinos.com/blackjack/basic-strategy-calculator.php but it has now been removed from the whitelist during a "clean up". The link in the blackjack article was then removed. As far as I understand this site was not really blacklisted at all. According to the blacklist strings of text that may not be used in URLs include 'online-casino' - but this has nothing to do with this site. This site was whitelisted untill the cleanup editor remove the link from the whitelist. As a result of this the quote above from the blackjack article is no longer true. Could you please look into this and perhaps add this site back as it adds value to the article? Thanks you. 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Is this one for the grand jury or what? :-) Cheers 26 April 2007 (UTC)

web.archive.org/web/20010604050931/www.wcw.com/p1.html

For World Championship Wrestling article. Illustrative citation to reference the page. This link was fine 5 minutes ago. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 04:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC) Basically, I cannot make one simple edit to correct the reflist from being completely messed up unless I go through it and hack out references that are now suddenly and inexplicably blacklisted. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 04:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 Not done - This was a regex error on the blacklist, it is fixed. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Note all of these were the same regex error. \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com was the original one, it is now \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com. This was added to stop prior spamming with OWW columnist (Barber) from linking to his deleted columns. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

www.tv.com/wcw-monday-nitro/march-26-2001/episode/128781/summary.html

See above (for World Championship Wrestling article) ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 04:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 Not done - This was a regex error on the blacklist, it is fixed. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Note all of these were the same regex error. \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com was the original one, it is now \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com. This was added to stop prior spamming with OWW columnist (Barber) from linking to his deleted columns. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

oratory.rajah.com/testfolder/index.php?archive=1461

See above (for World Championship Wrestling article) ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 04:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 Not done - This was a regex error on the blacklist, it is fixed. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Note all of these were the same regex error. \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com was the original one, it is now \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com. This was added to stop prior spamming with OWW columnist (Barber) from linking to his deleted columns. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

www.obsessedwithwrestling.com

See above (for World Championship Wrestling article) plus this has numerous links in articles ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 04:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 Not done - This was a regex error on the blacklist, it is fixed. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Note all of these were the same regex error. \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com was the original one, it is now \bweb\.archive\.org[^ ]+obsessedwithwrestling\.com. This was added to stop prior spamming with OWW columnist (Barber) from linking to his deleted columns. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

www.socal-ld.net

This is a site dedicated to helping people learn information NFA-LD debate. Currently the NFA-LD page has only limited information and this site would help people a lot who are interested in learning about the format. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.254.173.200 (talk) 19:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC). 72.254.173.200 19:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Comments:

• This looks like a blog, so it does not meet our Reliable Sources or External Links Guidelines.
• What's NFA-LD? (I couldn't tell from looking at the blog).
• I suspect that socal-ld.net may be getting caught by the blacklist because it's triggering the blacklist entry for the unrelated spam domain ld.net

--A. B. ^(talk) 21:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

simonetti.forumcommunity.net

Attempting to cite a composer's post in this (his official) forum. (You can get to it from his official website.) [hxxp://simonetti.forumcommunity.net/?t=6086692 Deeplink to the forum page.] I know it doesn't seem terribly reputable at first glance, but it is important to the soundtrack section of the article en:The Third Mother in which Claudio Simonetti discusses his soundtrack to the film. (This is the only official information released on the subject.) Thanks. 151.201.9.217 04:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Y Done It was written by him, and, though I cannot read it, counts as a legitimate primary source. I have unblocked only that thread. Also, if I have done it wrong, please contact me, this is the first time I have edited the whitelist. J Milburn 14:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Still not working. ;_; 136.142.13.214 18:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It is fixed, J Milburn keep in mind these are regex strings. You have to escape the ?. Otherwise good work. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

blog.myspace.com/marthajonesuk

(http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=166447207&blogID=248005372, specifically_An official MySpace, needed in en:Chronology of the Doctor Who universe for citation purposes. ~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 16:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Do see the meta blacklist request as well for more background info. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 18:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

come.to/victoria-station/ Nottingham Victoria Station

1. I believe this site has been blacklisted in error because the beginning of the url has the words come.to

2. The site come.to/victoria-station/Nottingham Victoria Station is a non commercial site containing lots of information relating to the Wikipedia article which uses the link.

3. The article using the link is Nottingham Victoria railway station. Martin Cordon 12:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 Done I removed the block from the spam blacklist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

come.to/cardiacs/ Cardiacs Archive

1. I believe this site has been blacklisted in error because the beginning of the url has the words come.to

2. The site come.to/cardiacs is a non commercial site containing essential information relating to the Wikipedia article which uses the link.

3. The article using the link is cardiacs. Zepromz 02:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 Done I removed the block from the spam blacklist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

anzwers.org/free/universe/hr.html

Image source of Image:HRDiagram.gif —Remember the dot ^(talk) 23:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

tufoic.ne1.net

Seems to be marked as spam and will not let me update the organizations profile. Tasmania_UFO_Investigation_Centre (:O) -Nima Baghaei ^{talk · cont} 18:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 Done - I removed the link (it was a malfunctioning regex on the meta blacklist) —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Disinformation myspace blog

I would like to request an add for the Disinformation myspace blog to be unblocked so I can add it to the 420 wiki. Disinformation is a legitimate book seller and many respected writers write for this series. This is also their legitimate page on myspace and so I feel that the information they blog about would be edited and checked to the same degree as their books. blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=39244032&blogID=255740879&Mytoken=FF34E137-A65F-4671-9C82A23ED5577BCE4349358Bronayur 12:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

What is the article that this will be used on? We don't accept advertising (if that is what you meant by "add". —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:16, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

come.to/victoria-station/ Nottingham Victoria Station

1. I believe this site has been blacklisted in error because the beginning of the url has the words come.to

2. The site come.to/victoria-station/Nottingham Victoria Station is a non commercial site containing lots of information relating to the Wikipedia article which uses the link.

3. The article using the link is Nottingham Victoria railway station. Martin Cordon 12:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 Done this has been removed from the spam blacklist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

www.lotusreader.8rf.com

This claims to be the website for The Lotus Reader. I encountered it doing cleanup work, but either the whole article is spam, or the link is unspammy. Would like to be consistent. --Alvestrand 15:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I put the article on AFD to find out. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

www.lost.eu

I created an article about the website and community of lost.eu and cite both the main page and the about us page. Is it possible to only unblock the main page, www.lost.eu, and keep pages like www.lost.eu/399d1 blocked? If so could that be done. Vantar 09:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Does the site have something like www.lost.eu/index.php or something? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 06:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is www.lost.eu/index.php Vantar 03:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

 Done That we can do. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 06:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

tinyurl.com

This is very useful for getting rid of very long URLs that make reading diffs difficult. I can't see any reason to add it to the spam blacklist; it's being added because it's useful, not as spam. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

but, it can be used to bypass the blacklist, by using the tinyurl.com url's instead of the blacklisted ones - that is why it's on the blacklist in the firstplace.. --Versageek 22:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you clarify what you mean, please? I just tried using it and couldn't save the page because it was on the blacklist. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Check your email. --Versageek 22:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

If sites like tinyurl.com are not blacklisted, then they can be used to link to blacklisted sites. MediaWiki's spam blacklist filter only sees the tinyurl.com link -- it doesn't see the domain that's really "behind it", such as buyviagra.com or attacksite.com. Take a look at the URL shortener article -- there are several hundred of these sorts of sites out there and they've all been used at one point or another by banned users and spammers to add blacklisted links. Trust me -- we want these blacklisted. --A. B. ^(talk) 23:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Proposed removals from Whitelist (sites to block)

sirnuke.sytes.net

sirnuke.sytes.net -- Was my personal website, but I am now using a glorified domain. The whitelist entry is no longer necessary.--SirNuke 21:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok,  Done. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 01:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Troubleshooting and problems

Fiesta Patronal

• • I'm trying to add a link to this page, Fiesta patronal, but the submission is blocked because an already posted link contains the blacklisted "welcome to." Not sure what to do. Sorry, if this is not the right place for this query. Apirie 22:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Seems fine now. -- Heligoland 13:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Last Measure

It is currently impossible to edit the Last measure article because it links to a Last Measure site, which is itself blocked. I don't think removing Last Measure from the blacklist is a very good approach since it is frequently abused, but another recommended approach would be appreciated. For now I have simply obfuscated the link, which is also not a very good approach.

I'm not sure what your talking about chief, Last Measure is a redirect and has been for some time. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

..make that Last measure, not Last Measure. Last Measure is a redirect, Last measure is a separate article. The redirect should probably be fixed too..

Ah, thanks for brining that to my attention. I've speedily deleted it as an exact recreation of a deleted article. (see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Last_Measure) ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 16:55, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

Archived

This page needs to be archived. Could anyone do the job? --Meno25 01:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I archived the items that were completed on or before the end of November 2006. The archive can be accessed by following this Archives link (it also appears above at the beginning of the page).—Chidom ^talk  08:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Backlog

Ridiculous backlog here... I'm working to clear it. If anyone wants to help, great! I'm adding (Status: Approved/Declined) to the section headers to make the process a little easier and I'd appreciate it if anyone who gets involved follows that convention. Thanks, ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 16:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey J.smith, I suggest that we not modify the title, but instead use the templates {{done}} ( Done) and {{not done}} ( Not done). This will allow existing links to titles (such as link#section to not be broken. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 20:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I've introduced a whitelist log, try to use it for when you log entries, instructions are given on the /log page. Its fairly easy, and the point of it is to allow easy ways to figure out the full context of why something was added. It is modeled after the spam blacklist log. I will be going as far back as possible and trying to log most every entry to this list. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 04:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Eek... now it's gotten all complicated! :) ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 18:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how much more complicated it really is... I just find it easier to look up why we whitelisted stuff. The old method simply had the admin's name and who requested it... that does not really tell anyone why we added something. I stole the method from the spam blacklist, so I'm trusting that its tried and true, (go check out how long they have been doing it). —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 21:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh... and I've archived the page, we are down to 16 (minus the two "done" I left). —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 21:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

After suffering because of the backlog here, now I have my admin powers, I want to help out. I have dealt with one request already- pretty certain I have done it correctly, but if anyone gets a moment, could they check and make sure? Thanks. J Milburn 14:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

New template

{{Whitelist request processed}} creates the note:

Hello! This note is to inform you that your whitelist request has been "note". More information about your request can be found at the whitelist talk page, the log, or the request archives if the request is older. Thanks,.

I figured it would be helpfull for communication. Thoughts? ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 15:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I like, its nice for some of the older requests, though for the newer ones, we should be able to expect the people to check up on the page themselves. I'm thinking of getting a bot to archive this page automatically x days after a  Done or  Not done tag is present. That way we can be assured that finished requests will be on this page long enough for people to take notice that something was done. I'm thinking the value of x should be something in between 3-10 days, ideas? —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and congrats! we are down to 9 more requests... I'm sorry I've not been as active here as I would like... I've been busy over at m:Spam blacklist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the older requests were what I had in mind. I was going to mass-spam this template sites we have processed recently so people know someone is actually paying attention to this page now.

I don't really know what to do with those Russian/whatever language requests. Maybe I can drop a request at the village pump.

This page doesn't seem to get a high-volume of requests, so 7+ days would be fine. If things pick up, now that the backlog is basically cleared, we can always tweak the time. I'd really rather avoid a situation where the page is habitually empty. An empty page, much like an empty tip jar, can discourage people from participating. (Did you know the staff will seed the jar with a handful of change and a few small bills?) ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 06:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

If there are requests for other language wikipedias, best to redirect them to the proper wiki page. Like Russian should be http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist ect ect. And yeah best to keep some stuff on this page, rather than immediatly archiving. I did immediate archives to get this page down to something smaller... from 100 requests down to ~10 or so... we've done well. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, those wikis can't approve white listing for this one. Not sure what good it would do the requester.

Yeah, we sure have. :) ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 17:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Mmmm I was more thinking that perhaps the site should go to the russian wiki article, as its more appropriate there... and that might have been the original intent of the poster.... Oh, and I'm taking the {{adminbacklog}} off of this page. I think its reasonably cleared out now. ;) —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 17:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Review

Things tend to go on the whitelist and get forgotten. I started looking through it and found several sites which were not linked, some which were no longer on the blacklist anyway, some entries which simply serve to override the blacklist for entire domains (why?), some which have no place in the project anyway (e.g. ad-riddled fansites). I have made a review page at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist/review and am looking through them. I've excluded the latest ones, which at least have comments stating why they are on the list, and added links to show "mainspace" and "all" linksearch. I did not do this with the expectation of anyone but me reviewing it, but it is going to take a looooong time so if anyone else wants to help please do pitch in. Guy (Help!) 19:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, Eagle has implimented a system that should make anything new fairly easy to track down... but yeah, the older ones are hard. Good idea to review the older entries. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 20:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Signpost subscription

For a couple weeks now I have been missing my Signpost news. I have left contact notes in various related places to no avail. Tonight I *tried* to resubscribe using the different procedure listed on the subscription page and when I went to my talk page and dropped in the symbol *

* the page would not save and stated that this was spam. Can someone give me a clue? Ekotkie 23:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)