Talk:Clover

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 1 September 2020 and 19 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Tday2 (article contribs). http://www.opioids.com/misc/red-clover.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.142.80 (talk) 06:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Picture of seed needed

The main page of this article would be improved if someone posted a picture of the seed of the clover. The article says it is leguminous, so I will assume that that means, a typical clover plant produces a pod similar to the pod in the common string bean, or pea. Maybe with two or three seeds in it, I don't know. The article doesn't say. So, does the seed of the common clover have the same appearance as a bean, or pea, or even peanut? How long does it take for clover seed to germinate? Most of the clover plants I have seen, have three leaves. (They are "trifoliate.") Do all three seeds sprout from the stem at the same time, or do two of the leaves sprout first, and then the third, later? The main page of this article needs more information to answer these questions. If you can't find a reference to cite, be bold anyway. 216.99.219.70 (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Clover DOES NOT fix nitrogen.

I removed the little part at the beginning about clover fixing nitrogen. Plants in Fabaceae, the legume family, have a symbiotic association called mycorrhiza, with a type of bacteria called Rhizobia, which fixes nitrogen. So the plant contributes to nitrogen fixation by harboring something that does fix nitrogen, but it does not, itself, fix nitrogen. If some one disagrees please site proof of nitrogen fixation by clover.Wgfcrafty (talk) 11:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

It would be better, rather than deleting the nitrogen fixation, to explain the technical details. Clover has certainly been cited as good for lawns because of nitrogen fixation. http://msucares.com/news/print/agnews/an04/040311.html The exact mechanism of fixation may not be the clover itself, but micro-organisms associated with the clover; however, it would be better to document that technicality, rather than delete the mention of nitrogen fixation entirely.

I agree, proof should have been provided. I've been debating whether to leave clover in my garden for this purpose. The end result is that nitrogen is fixed in the soil, whether or not the plant itself does the fixing. I am restoring the blurb about nitrogen. GrimmC (talk) 23:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and the flora in your gut digests your food for you. Ealtram (talk) 02:36, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

older entries

Has "clover sickness" been cured since 1911? Ortolan88

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I think the bird's foot trefoil image is misplaced. If I'm looking at the same species it is Lotus corniculatus not a Trifolium. Can anyone confirm? -- sannse (talk) 18:58, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've removed the image for now (with an incomplete edit summary - sorry) -- sannse (talk) 19:10, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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I removed the following cut&paste from http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/1/4/0/11407/11407-h/11407-h.htm I assume this is no longer applicable to modern agriculture.

One of the most recent of useful discoveries in agriculture is to mix layers of green or new cut clover with layers of straw in ricks or stacks; thus the strength of the clover is absorbed by the straw, which, thus impregnated, both horses and cattle eat greedily, and the clover is dried and prevented from heating. This practice is particularly calculated for second crops of clover and rye-grass.

-- Samw 00:03, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes, whoever moved it over from the 1911 EB should have been a bit more conservative. --DanielCD 15:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

(sorry for this messy post) look the four-leaf clover page, to see that the old 18-leaf clover record has been improved (in about 2007 or 2008) to 21-leaf. By anonymous. 29 05 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.100.217.248 (talk) 19:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Hop-clover

There is an article at Hop-clover that might be redirected here. --DanielCD 15:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Bias

This page has a very obvious British bias (because it was taken from Encyclopædia Britannica) and needs to talk more about clovers in other parts of the world. The way this article is written, it almost seems as if clovers are found only in the British Isles. SCHZMO ✍ 15:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. With it being EB stuff a lot is also very dated; I'll try and go over it and junk the worst, and split off some of the rest into individual species articles, over the next few days - MPF 00:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Muir Woods Plants

The plants in the Muir Woods picture look a lot like Oxalis. Does anyone know which species of Trifolium they are supposed to be? --Tjunier 12:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Muir Woods Picture

That is a picture of Oxalis oregana(redwood sorrel)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwood_sorrel

I am new and not sure if I should take it down or how this works.

Cloverfield

According to a site about the movie Cloverfield, it was named so because after dropping a bomb, clovers usually grow in the area. Truth or not? If not, should this be in the superstitions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.240.3 (talk) 17:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

You would probably also get fire ants (if they're living in the area). Certain species grow in disturbed (i.e. construction sites, blast sites) areas better than others. I think the quote itself, if it comes from a good enough source, might be noteworthy on the Cloverfield page, referring to the reason for the title (or myths about the title; I'm not really familiar with the movie or its hype), but here I don't think it's important to note unless there was a significant study done to that effect (you know: soil conditions about bomb blasts and their suitability for certain plant species, ecological impact analysis, etc.). Interesting thought, though. Garnet avi (talk) 00:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

opium

just removed the part talking about opium. it doesn't contain opium in itself it just has pharmacologically similar proteins http://www.clover.co.za/content/493/a-pharmacy-in-the-supermarket/

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Is it safe to smoke clover?? I've heard it is good as a subsitute for tobacco. user--TashaF —Preceding unsigned comment added by TashaF (talk • contribs) 20:28, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Clover Nicole Smith

Clover [also known as: Clover nicole ziemer/Smith, Nikki, La Ruige, or Chloe] was born in 1993 on August 8th, was born to an already child having mother named Rebecca Landrigan. [Rebecca's first child was Christian Neol Stephens, who was born three years prior to Clover in november] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clovernikkismith (talk • contribs) 22:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

References

Propagating clover plants

Can clover plants be propagated by cutting the roots, or do they propagate only by going to seed? 216.99.219.70 (talk) 21:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

legume/pea?

Can someone add an explanation of why clover is considered a pea or a legume? I've had these plants in my yard and I've never seen a pea or legume growing on one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 02:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Clover sickness

Under the Section "Cultivation", the second paragraph starts with "Clover sickness..." as a beekeeper I have never heard of this, and I have not been able to find anything about it, unless a Source for this claim can be made the sentence should be deleted, any objections?Bibby (talk) 14:59, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Origin and spread

The genus is described as "originating in Europe". Under Uses it says " Native Americans ate the plants raw and cooked, drying and smoking the roots." By using the past tense it is perhaps suggesting from antiquity. Some elaboration on what is meant by "originating in Europe" and in what geologic time period it is thought to have originated and how and in what time periods it is thought to have spread.Ealtram (talk) 02:32, 2 November 2021 (UTC)