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Yugoslavia is mentioned as a part of so-called "Eastern Bloc", but then there is not a thing mentioned of its politics, which clearly shows Yugoslavia was not part of Eastern Bloc. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.212.111.58|89.212.111.58]] ([[User talk:89.212.111.58|talk]]) 13:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Yugoslavia is mentioned as a part of so-called "Eastern Bloc", but then there is not a thing mentioned of its politics, which clearly shows Yugoslavia was not part of Eastern Bloc. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.212.111.58|89.212.111.58]] ([[User talk:89.212.111.58|talk]]) 13:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Purges and show trials - Hungary, Kádár and "Vladimir" == |
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It is very likely, that this story about how Kádár was tortured is a myth created after 1956 by Kádár and his close allies. |
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"Vladimir" in the text is Vladimir Farkas. He was the estranged son of the defense minister, Mihály Farkas and member of the AVH from 1945 (he fought in the Soviet army in the ww2). He participated in the investigations, but he wasn't charged with the torturing part, that was the task of such "specialist" as Jozsef Kajli, Gyula Princz etc. |
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After 1956 Kadar used the Mihaly and Vladimir Farkas as scapegoats (father and son as the leaders of the attrocities). |
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This way the communist party (MSZMP): |
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a.) could spare the other AVH officers, like Kajli etc. who got lucrative jobs usually in the culture (publishing firms etc.) (also usually their role in the "attrocities" remained a secret until 1990, because their victims either were afraid to talk or were dead), |
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b.) could increase Kadar's popularity in Hungary ("see, our leader was a victim, too..."), |
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c.) could distance itself from the pre-1956 communist party (MDP) (dictatorship vs. rule of socialist law and democracy) |
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Vladimir Farkas wrote a lenghty memoir about the AVH and his role, sadly it's unavailable in English, but here is a link about a series of interviews with him in 1989, it's a good start as he remained faithful to this version until his death: http://osaarchivum.org/files/holdings/300/8/3/text/120-2-124.shtml |
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East German "Police" organizations
What is the basis for calling the border troops or the Kampfgruppen "state or secret police orgnizations"? Why are Trapo and Volkspolizei listed separately? Yaan (talk) 18:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Yugoslavia
This article should not include Yugoslavia.
Yugoslavia is mentioned as a part of so-called "Eastern Bloc", but then there is not a thing mentioned of its politics, which clearly shows Yugoslavia was not part of Eastern Bloc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.212.111.58 (talk) 13:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Purges and show trials - Hungary, Kádár and "Vladimir"
It is very likely, that this story about how Kádár was tortured is a myth created after 1956 by Kádár and his close allies. "Vladimir" in the text is Vladimir Farkas. He was the estranged son of the defense minister, Mihály Farkas and member of the AVH from 1945 (he fought in the Soviet army in the ww2). He participated in the investigations, but he wasn't charged with the torturing part, that was the task of such "specialist" as Jozsef Kajli, Gyula Princz etc. After 1956 Kadar used the Mihaly and Vladimir Farkas as scapegoats (father and son as the leaders of the attrocities). This way the communist party (MSZMP): a.) could spare the other AVH officers, like Kajli etc. who got lucrative jobs usually in the culture (publishing firms etc.) (also usually their role in the "attrocities" remained a secret until 1990, because their victims either were afraid to talk or were dead), b.) could increase Kadar's popularity in Hungary ("see, our leader was a victim, too..."), c.) could distance itself from the pre-1956 communist party (MDP) (dictatorship vs. rule of socialist law and democracy)
Vladimir Farkas wrote a lenghty memoir about the AVH and his role, sadly it's unavailable in English, but here is a link about a series of interviews with him in 1989, it's a good start as he remained faithful to this version until his death: http://osaarchivum.org/files/holdings/300/8/3/text/120-2-124.shtml
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