Talk:List of premiers of Victoria

How is the Premier chosen????

A brief description of how the premier is appointed/removed would be helpful. Appointed by the legislative assembly after election I think. But what if there is no clear majority? I know that independents were responsible for electing Steve Bracks in 1999. Can they change their mind mid-term? Vote of no confidence?

Premiers are appointed by the Governor (under convention, according to the advice of an ougoing Premier who has lost the election, and resigns his commission as a result. This is an aspect of the Westminster System).--Grahamec 10:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

More to add, later, though writing biographies for the earlier ones will be pretty tough . . . --Robert Merkel

Middle names

Is it necessary to have the middle names of all of the Premies in this article? Some of the first names listed are not even in consistent of those for what they were known as as Premier. Wikistar (Place order here) 09:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: pages moved. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 04:45, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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Premiers of Victoria → Premier of Victoria — In Category:Lists of heads of government of Australian states and territories, all of the Deputy Premier/Chief Minister articles are singular; so are the Chief Minister articles and Premier of Western Australia. Miracle Pen (talk) 14:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

• Premiers of New South Wales → Premier of New South Wales
• Premiers of Tasmania → Premier of Tasmania
• Premiers of Queensland → Premier of Queensland
• Premiers of South Australia → Premier of South Australia

• Support. A no-brainer, really. The articles are not just lists of the respective premiers, they're descriptions of the offices and histories of the offices. The same protocol should apply to whichever of the Governor articles are not "Governor of <name of state>". -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:02, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment. I didn't notice the Governor articles were out of alignment too. Thanks for mentioning it. Moved one and listed the other at RM. Miracle Pen (talk) 21:18, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
• Move since it is about the office rather than the collection. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
• Support agree with above statements. Jenks24 (talk) 10:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
• Support The articles are about the role, they merely happen to contain a list of the holders of it. Orderinchaos 16:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move 1 October 2023

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The result of the move request was: NOMINATOR WITHDRAWAL. (non-admin closure) ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 06:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Premier of Victoria → List of premiers of Victoria – To make consistent with List of prime ministers of Australia. This article is more of a list rather than an article with the majority of the page being a table rather than prose. The page 'Premiers of Victoria' should be reserved for a prose dominant article (as is the case for Prime Minister of Australia). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 02:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support. This is clearly a list article and the title should reflect that. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. All the other articles in Category:Lists of heads of government of Australian states and territories follow the same naming convention. If one has to be moved, all of them have to be moved for consistency. I would reconsider my oppose if a requested move with all the state's premier articles was made. Steelkamp (talk) 03:56, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

  I would reconsider my oppose if a requested move with all the state's premier articles was made – I will withdraw this request and initiate another request encompassing all the states who's articles have the same issue. ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 04:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move 1 October 2023

• Premier of Victoria → List of premiers of Victoria
• Chief Minister of the Australian Capital Territory → List of chief ministers of the Australian Capital Territory
• Premier of New South Wales → List of premiers of New South Wales
• Premier of Queensland → List of premiers of Queensland
• Premier of Tasmania → List of premiers of Tasmania

– To make consistent with List of prime ministers of Australia. The articles are lists rather than an articles with the majority of the page in each article consisting of tables rather than prose. The page's current titles should be reserved for a prose dominant article (as is the case for Prime Minister of Australia). (Note: I have omitted a few States from the move as they contain a considerable amount of prose and a split would be more appropriate). ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 07:00, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Rreagan007 @Steelkamp – FYI ––– GMH MELBOURNE TALK 07:01, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support in principle. The other ones (Premier of Western Australia, Premier of South Australia, Chief Minister of the Northern Territory) should be moved as well IMO and the contents split to the original page. That would be a good course of action (rather than a split in the other direction) due to those page's page history, which is mostly focused on the list of premiers. This move would be inline with the Premiers of Canada articles or the Governors of the United States articles, as well as the Prime minister of Australia article and many other heads of government around the world. Steelkamp (talk) 07:23, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Instead of rename and moved because the articles is more about of list of premier. Why don't you create a new page "List of Premiers of Victoria" and remove the list from this page and try to expand this page like Prime Minister of Australia I am sure we can write more about roles and authority of premier, and can write history as it was a colony before 1901, privileges, Style of address, etc. Look at the Premier of Ontario. Muzi (talk) 13:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)