Talk:Prince Edward, Duke of Edinburgh

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I'm new to Wikipedia, so not sure how to edit yet, but I do think the section about the Earl & Countess's baby should have a brief mention of the great difficulty the Countess had in delivering the baby - emergency C-section, and that the baby was born prematurely by at least a month —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.205.136.100 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 21 November 2004

So, be bold! DavidBrooks

Gay?

"haunted" by rumours that he is gay? I think that's too subjective, unless you have evidence. Sure, he did have to deny it publicly (risking a "protest too much" reaction). But I think that says more about the British media than the Prince. Not trying to be to hagiographic here - although a friend who know him at Cambridge asserted to me that he was definitely straight. DavidBrooks 01:50, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Not gay? "... he worked on such plays as Phantom of the Opera, Starlight Express and Cats." I think that says it all. Seminumerical 14:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Rather worrying and subjective comment open to libel actions. Aussiebrisguy 16:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the rumours about his potential closet homosexuality are far more prevalent than this article would suggest. It's referenced quite regularly in British satirical comedy shows like Mock the Week and Have I Got News for You. Happily the mention of the rumours in this article is much less leading now, but I don't think it's adequate to be NPOV. How did the rumours start, for example? leevclarke (talk) 01:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Let's remember that the criterion for something getting mentioned on Mock the Week and Have I Got News for You is not "is it true" but "is it funny". I think WP:BLP cuts in here. DJ Clayworth (talk) 01:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Edinburgh Dukedom

This is fascinating. I doubt if the courtiers ever thought of this! Well done to the author.

Why is his daughter mentioned as "heiress presumptive" of his earldom? Will she once inherit it?! 24.5.07 Msvj

No, there is no remainder for females in the creation of the earldom. ^† DBD 14:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Prince Edward

Why does Prince Edward redirect here? There are plenty of other Prince Edwards, including, but not limited to, the Eal of Wessex's great-uncle, Edward VIII and his great-great grandfather, Edward VII, as well as lots of other Prince Edwards of England, and Prince Edwards of other countries. 156.63.85.15 19:03, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

It would be most likly that some would type Prince Edward to find him. Today when someone talk of Prince Edwards it is 99% the Earl of Wessex

Edward VII wasn't prince Edward, he was Prince Albert, and if looking for these other Edwards would most likely type king and not prince anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.135.224 (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Education

I refer to the following passage in the Education section of the entry on Prince Edward: “...Prince Edward enrolled at Jesus College, University of Cambridge reading history. He graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree in 1986. This makes Prince Edward only the third member of the Royal Family in history to have obtained a university degree (the others being Charles, Prince of Wales and his nephew Prince William of Wales).”

Wikipedia sources imply that there is in fact a fourth, unlisted member of the Royal Family to have obtained a university degree.

His Royal Highness Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester (first-cousin of Queen Elizabeth II through their grandfather, King George V), is described in Wikipedia thus: “In 1963, he went to Magdalene College, Cambridge to read architecture. He received the degree of Bachelor of Arts in June 1966.”

The Wikipedia entry on the British Royal Family confirms that Prince Richard is a member of it, since he is styled “His Royal Highness”.

In summary, Prince Richard (1) is a member of the British Royal Family, and (2) obtained a university degree. Incidentally, because Prince Charles left Gordonstoun boarding school with A levels in 1967, Prince Richard must have been chronologically the first to graduate university (in 1966, as shown above).

Therefore, I suggest the following amendment to the Education section on the Wikipedia entry for Prince Edward: “This makes Prince Edward only the third of four members of the Royal Family in history to have obtained a university degree--the others being Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester (first cousin of Queen Elizabeth II through their grandfather, King George V), his nephew, Charles, Prince of Wales, and Prince Edward's own nephew, Prince William of Wales.”

69.158.130.52 05:30, 27 September 2005 (UTC)Peter Johnson <REMOVEdr_data25@hotmail.com>

Sitcom

This clip mentions a sitcom he was involved it called "Annie's Bar" - care to mention it?--Crestville 19:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Aussiebrisguy's edit

I would kindly ask that Aussiebrisguy would leave the page how it is. Everytime he reverts it, he breaks some links (ie to Really Useful Group), insers his POV (with regard to It's A Royal Knockout; its was "widely-ridiculed", although a source would be nice) and the phrase "unfounded media rumours" about his sexuality is also POV. He also reinserts the sentence "As part of the celebrations of the 50th anniversary of the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme the prince visited Richard Huish College in Taunton, Somerset. There he met with several representatives and participants of the scheme."; this is totally uneeded. I would ask for others users to help me make sure that Aussiebrisguy does not keep to vandalise this page. --UpDown 11:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Royals with University Degree

The article mentions that Prince Edward is one of only five members of the Royal Family in history to have obtained a university degree.

If another Wikipedia article is accurate, there are at least six. Lady Gabriella Windsor graduated from Brown University in 2004.

See Lady Gabriella Windsor

She is not titled "HRH" but she is still a member of the Royal Family.

Fatladysang 01:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

She's not HRH therefore she's not Royal Family – although she may be described as "royal family" or "extended royal family", she's not "Royal Family" ^† DBD 09:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

She's not a member of the royal family per se but she is in the "extended" family. J8149ZZ (talk) 11:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Similarly Lord Frederick Windsor is a graduate of the University of Oxford, having been placed in class II division 1 in the Final Honour School of Literae Humaniores.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 23:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Dress at the senataph.

This is the only "Royal" not to have competed an honourable period of service in the armed forces. Would it not have been appropriate for him to have attended as the civilian that he is? Brian Thompson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.102.148 (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Military status

I don't think it's accurate to say he resigned his commission. He started the basic training that all Marine recruits must complete before being assessed for a commission, but he did not complete the course. As he never joined a unit, he is only notionally an ex-Marine at all. 86.145.155.99 (talk) 15:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg

References to the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg are being added to multiple articles related to the Royal Family of the Commonwealth realms, and yet, not one reliable source has been provided. I yesterday began a discussion about this at Talk:House of Windsor#House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg. Input there by interested parties would be appreciated. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 13:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The use of "The Prince Edward" in article opening

I am arguing that the short form of a British royal prince or princess in the opening of the article should include the "The" where applicable, as in "The Prince Edward." I argue that this is distinctive and meaningful as indicated on the British Monarchy's website. I would not, however, include HRH in the opening as this would be like using "Mr" which is not consistent with Wikipedia style as that is purely an honorific. The use of "The" indicates that the prince is a child of the monarch.

The use of "The" is not simply an honorific.

It is unwise to split discussions across multiple pages. Please direct all discussion to Talk:Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh#The use of "The Prince Philip" in article opening. DrKiernan (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I'll move all my discussion points to the Prince Phillip article.

Seventh in line

The article states that the Earl of Wessex is seventh in line to the position of Head of the Commonwealth. However, as the article on that subject itself states that "there is no agreement concerning whether the office will pass to her heir along with her other offices" then this implies that there is no order of succession to that position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ephemerides (talk • contribs) 23:28, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Colin Firth

Regarding the story told in this version of the article: It's not clear to me that we should uncritically repeat the story that Edward was going to be Duke of Cambridge until he saw Shakespeare in Love and decided he wanted to be like Colin Firth. Yes, this was published in a mainstream newspaper, but in that newspaper it is attributed to an anonymous "courtier". Who knows whether that courtier is really in a position to know about Edward's inner thought processes, not to mention whether that courtier has any motivation to embarrass Edward?

Furthermore, the story is unlikely for this reason: The eventual decision was not simply that Edward would be Earl of Wessex. Rather, it was that he will eventually be Duke of Edinburgh but that that title is not yet available. It must have taken some considerable negotiation for this course of action to be agreed upon, as it depends on rather more people than simply Edward and the Queen. Furthermore Duke of Edinburgh clearly is a title that must mean much more to Edward than either Cambridge or Wessex, as it allows him to follow in his father's footsteps and continue his work, something he had already begun to do.

I am willing to believe that Cambridge was Edward's top choice before it became clear that Edinburgh was available to him, and I may even believe that Wessex was suggested to him by the movie (a lesser title is necessary so that Sophie has a title for now but also so that Edward will be known exclusively as Edinburgh when he finally becomes a Duke, and it makes sense to use something long out of use since the concept of "royal earldom" is a new one). However, the idea that he dropped Cambridge in favor of Wessex because he was wowed by the movie, and that Edinburgh was somehow tacked on in consolation, simply does not pass the smell test. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 12:34, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Commodore in Chief of the RFA

Good Afternoon,

The thumbnail preceding his mention as Commodore in Chief of the RFA is incorrect as it displays the White Ensign( RN) rather than the RFA's Blue Ensign defaced with a fouled anchor which is displayed in Wikipedia HERE I do not know how to make the correction myself.

He is also Patron of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary Association (RFAA), HERE Crissake (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC) Crissake (talk) 15:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I made the change to the RFA icon. NDomer09 (talk) 00:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Paralympics

The Earl of Wessex also represented H.M. at the closing of the Paralympics. 74.69.8.195 (talk) 11:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Duke of Edinburgh

Quiote" the Earl of Wessex would be created Duke of Edinburgh when that dukedom, held by Edward's father since 1947, reverts to the Crown,[2][19] which can happen only after both of his parents have died (see here for details)."

How so? Why does his mother have to die before he can inherit the title? Also the see here for details link doesn't explain this assertion. 121.73.7.84 (talk) 10:47, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

His mother doesn't have to die for him to inherit the title. In fact, the only way he can inherit the title is if both his brothers and both his fraternal nephews (along with the possible fraternal grandnephew) die during his mother's life. Since that isn't likely to happen and isn't considered as a solution for obvious reasons, it was announced that Edward would created Duke of Edinburgh once the current creation reverts to the Crown. That can only happen if the reigning monarch inherits the title or if the holder of the title becomes monarch, i.e. only when both Philip and Elizabeth are dead. For example, Philip dies and Charles becomes Duke of Edinburgh, then Elizabeth dies and Charles becomes king - at that point, Edward can be created Duke of Edinburgh. Surtsicna (talk) 16:04, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Key to this is the term "to merge with (or in) the crown" – explained at hereditary peer. DBD 21:54, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I understand how titles work. My point is why is the article giving false information? 121.73.7.84 (talk) 09:32, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

religiosity

I've read in several articles that Edward is very religious. He rarely performs engagements on Sundays and one ex-girlfriend broke up with him because he was too religious for her. 74.69.11.229 (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)