User talk:Michael C Price

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You did very nice edits on Many-worlds interpretation! Welcome to wikipedia! --DenisDiderot 10:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks DD -- glad you liked it. Thanks for the links. I'll probably confine myself straightforward textural edits for the near future whilst I get the hang of the metatools.--Michael C Price 12:09, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Michael C Price. You have new messages at Fences and windows's talk page.
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Tannhauser Gate

There is a discussion here regarding Colonel Warden's decision to move Tannhauser Gate to Tears in rain (soliloquy) without discussion. As you took part in previous related discussions on this matter, I am informing you of the current discussion. ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 15:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

OPERA neutrino anomaly

User:Strebe keeps reasserting that causality is part of SR and claims that "special relativity has no provision for non-real mass" while seemingly ignoring your statement that dismissing tachyons as SF is silly. I think that it should be noted that detection of FTL particles means violation of SR or violation of causality, but this user keeps reverting my efforts to do so.

I've reverted the most recent revert of this user, but I don't think that this is good course of action and it will probably be reverted again. What to do? --93.139.188.52 (talk) 16:58, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Timing of Out-of-Africa migration relative to Y-chromosome Adam

Thank you for taking an interest in my edit of the page on Y-chromosomal Adam, in which I removed the words "and possibly after" from the assertion that the date of 59,000 years ago for Y-chromosome Adam, proposed by initial studies such as Thomson et al. 2000, "meant that Y-chromosome Adam lived at a time very close to, and possibly after, the out of Africa migration".

You reverted my edit in good faith. But I am not sure that I understand your point, and so I have queried it on the talk page.

Thanks again. Prim Ethics (talk) 01:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Blinkx

You reverted my revision on the Blinkx article. I had changed the links to proper references and removed red links to non-existent articles.Please see Wikipedia:External links.Vrenator ^talk 09:39, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abortion closed

An arbitration case regarding all articles related to the subject of Abortion has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

• All articles related to the subject of Abortion:

1. shall be semi-protected until November 28, 2014;
2. shall not be moved absent a demonstrable community consensus;
3. are authorized to be placed on Standard discretionary sanctions;

In addition:

1. Editors are reminded to remain neutral while editing;
2. Structured discussion is to take place on names of articles currently located at Opposition to the legalization of abortion and Support for the legalization of abortion, with a binding vote taken one month after the opening of the discussion;
3. User:Orangemarlin is instructed to contact the Arbitration Committee before returning to edit affected articles;
4. User:Michael C Price, User:Anythingyouwant, User:Haymaker, User:Geremia, User:DMSBel are all indefinitely topic-banned; User:Michael C Price and User:Haymaker may appeal their topic bans in one year;
5. User:Gandydancer and User:NYyankees51 are reminded to maintain tones appropriate for collaboration in a sensitive topic area.

For the Arbitration Committee,
- Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 04:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Abortion

Resolved by motion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification that: The Abortion case is supplemented as follows:

Remedy 1 of Abortion is amended to the following:

• Any uninvolved administrator may semi-protect articles relating to Abortion and their corresponding talk pages, at his or her discretion, for a period of up to three years from 7 December 2011. Pages semi-protected under this provision are to be logged.

For the Arbitration Committee, Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 12:29, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Discuss this

Mediation Cabal: Request for participation

Dear Michael C Price: Hello. This is just to let you know that you've been mentioned in the following request at the Mediation Cabal, which is a Wikipedia dispute resolution initiative that resolves disputes by informal mediation.

The request can be found at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/16 December 2011/String theory.

Just so you know, it is entirely your choice whether or not you participate. If you wish to do so, and we'll see what we can do about getting this sorted out. At MedCab we aim to help all involved parties reach a solution and hope you will join in this effort.

If you have any questions relating to this or any other issue needing mediation, you can ask on the case talk page, the MedCab talk page, or you can ask the mediator, bobrayner, at their talk page. MedcabBot (talk) 15:43, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Abortion amendment request

Hello. I have made a request to the Arbitration Committee to amend the Abortion case, in relation to the structured discussion that was to take place. The request can be found here. Regards, Steven Zhang ^{Join the DR army!} 04:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

FYI

Greetings. You may want to nip this in the bud. Ignocrates (talk) 05:17, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Makes entertaining reading :-) -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 10:38, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

So does seeing you comment at User:Jayjg without any prompting from Iggy on December 31, 2001. As it strikes me as extremely unlikely that you have that page watched, it seems to me likely that you only responded on the basis of an email from Iggy. While that is certainly not unusual, and definitely in keeping with his own history in this regard, it might be preferable if such communications were to take place on-wiki, as there does not seem to be any particular reason for them to necessarily require e-mail. John Carter (talk) 21:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean no one's out to get you! :0D Ignocrates (talk) 18:06, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

"December 31, 2001."? Thanks, John, and glad to see you are still as clueless as ever about people. I needed a good laugh before going out this evening. (BTW you are projecting, since it is you who conspires via email to hound people off Wikipedia.)-- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 18:22, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually, those communiations were started by Ovadyah, your now friend. Please get your facts straight. And the only thing I have really been "hounding" is that the two of you, at some point, meet basic policy requirements for content? After so many years, it is really I think rather laughable that you still have failed to do so. Kung, a theologian, by the way, is probably not a reliable source for archaeological opinions. Have you yet found any better substantiation, I wonder? John Carter (talk) 01:28, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Not seeing anything that actually addresses what I wrote. No surprises there. -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 08:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

FWIW, I'm almost positive I didn't initiate any email exchanges with John Carter. This must be another mistake. Ignocrates (talk) 19:37, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

January 2012

Your recent editing history at Mitochondrial Eve shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block.

If you wish to avoid being blocked, instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. You may still be blocked for edit warring even if you do not exceed the technical limit of the three-revert rule if your behavior indicates that you intend to continue to revert repeatedly. and there does not appear to be any consensus for the addition of your material? Theroadislong (talk) 21:13, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

More FYI

New "old tricks" and diff,diff, diff. Ignocrates (talk) 03:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Isn't it amazing that just trying to get a copy of something I worked so hard at, that both of you all but completely ignored, by the way, is now called an "old trick"/ Or is the almost paranoic stalking and constant allegations of misconduct by the above editor itself the more accurate version of the "old tricks." And didn't you once have an Ebionites page yourself, Michael? Does that page qualify as an "old trick" as well? John Carter (talk) 01:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

See canvassing here and here. Ignocrates (talk) 00:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Ignocrates actually understood some of the policies and guidelines he says others violate. He himself misphrased at least 3 in his own comments regarding the EJC deletion. Maybe he might consider fighting ignorance begins at home. John Carter (talk) 01:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I just noticed that the article on Slavonic Josephus has been obliterated and the primary editor of Josephus on Jesus has been driven from Wikipedia. Too bad. Ignocrates (talk) 16:29, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, as per its history here, the Slavonic Josephus page never was an article, just a double redirect. John Carter (talk) 01:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

And what business is it of yours, or are you just trolling for trouble? Ignocrates (talk) 05:21, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

IIRC JC maintains that Slavonic Josephus is a not a "real" document and is unworthy of scholarly analysis. :-) Redirected it to Josephus on Jesus. -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 08:50, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see. So, in other words, the SJ doesn't pass muster with the dogma police. Ignocrates (talk) 15:47, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Axctually, if either of you bothered to look, you would see that I had nothing to do with it. And, honestly, if you bothered to look, I was trying to work with the editor on that article. I even sent him an e-mail asking him to return. Whether the Slavonic Josephus meets notability, which I presume was what Iggy meant in his vague comment above, I don't doubt that it does. But the article in question didn't have that title, and actually SJ is probably a better title as per WP:NAME than the current one. Regarding Michael's memory, or lack of same, that false memory seems just as accurate as his repeated unfounded claims that I sought to remove a WP:SPS source "just because I didn't like it." Wouldn't it actually be more constructuve of both of you to try to find some sources to back up your claims? Certain sources have been checked out unfortunately recently, and are no longer included directly in JSTOR, but I should have them by early next week to provide a bit more objective view of the RS status, or lack of same, of Eisenman and Tabor. Just letting you both know. John Carter (talk) 01:08, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I doubt that one more review will change anyone's mind at this point. I'm taking the consensus reached in mediation - that the works of both Eisenman and Tabor are RS - to be determinative. You appear to be desperate to overthrow that consensus at any cost. Continuing to have RfC's year after year until you finally get what you want is WP:TE. Ignocrates (talk) 19:55, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Afshar experiment and Feynman sum-over-histories

Dear Mike, please check my post at Talk:Afshar_experiment#Classical_optics_vs._Quantum_optics. I know that you are passionate believer in MWI of QM, and my work should be of interest for you. I should say that I do not believe in MWI, but this does not affect my rationality in any way, and prevent me from seeing that Feynman sum-over-histories describes nicely what the quantum world is. Anyway, I propose to collaborate with you constructively on those areas where our interests intersect. By the way, in my post I have explained why Feynman disliked Bohr, and I cited a verifiable source for the Bohr-Feynman confrontation. Interestingly for you, Bohr's ridicule and rude behavior was devastating for Hugh Everett III, "the father of MWI" as can be seen in the documentary NOVA: Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives produced by Everett's son. Fortunately for Feynman, he was able to win a Nobel prize and fight back Bohr's rudeness, whereas unfortunately for Hugh Everett III he was unable to fight back, got depression and at the end died by a heart attack. Danko Georgiev (talk) 12:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Danko. It's amusing that Bohr said Feynman couldn't understand even basic QM - that's exactly what Everett was told when he visited Copenhagen to visit Bohr! -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 10:27, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Dirac equation...

When you can, please see here and respond either there or on my talk page. Thanks - I would definitely appreciate your feedback on my editing making it a CRAP ARTICLE. Only random users raising random minor issues can give a toss to write on that talk page. -- F = q(E + v × B) 22:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

The article used to be clear that the Dirac equation was motivated to solve the Klein-Gordon equation, and that every solution to DE was a solution to the KG, but not vice versa. This was further illustrated by showing the KG and DE in Feynman slash notation along side each other. These statements no longer appear, and the associated Feynman slash equations have been deleted. -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 10:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, sorry... but by all means if there is something I have done wrong then please tell me. Apologies for getting frustrated but I honestly thought the article was becoming clearer in introducing the mathematical form of it. Then, in the edit history I read the comment. You are free to remove any and all of my comments. -- F = q(E + v × B) 19:57, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I have a few sources which say what you mention (to some extent qualitativley and lightly mathematically, not completley rote on the Feynman slash equations and suchlike) - two books already used in the article:

• Particle Physics (3rd Edition), B. R. Martin, G.Shaw, Manchester Physics Series, John Wiley & Sons, ISBN 978-0-470-03294-7
• Quantum Field Theory, D. McMahon, Mc Graw Hill (USA), 2008, ISBN 978-0-07-154382-8

and (only slightly)

• Physics of Atoms and Molecules, B.H. Bransden, C.J.Joachain, Longman, 1983, ISBN 0-582-44401-2

In time, we can restore your suggestion, I'll do what I can to help you =) , but right now I'm very busy.-- F = q(E + v × B) 20:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry it took such a long time. I added a reference to the section you added (it became labelled "unsourced"). I have no objections to the slash notation, but for consistency with the rest of the lead of article could it be converted into SI, leaving nat units for the detailed discussion later? I can convert the equation from nat to SI btw - just want to ask and not mess up your contribution. Thanks for the highly efficient summary! =) -- F = q(E + v × B) 10:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the reference. Not sure how you would convert from nat to SI (perhaps by replacing "m" by "mc/h"?); and if you could, wouldn't that destroy the elegance of it? I suspect most sources express it in natural units. I've added a link to natural units, if that's any help. -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 15:12, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure you're pretty familiar with how to do this, but anyway the equation in SI units would be:

$(i\hbar \gamma ^{\mu }\partial _{\mu }+mc)\psi =0$

by considering the dimensions to be momentum:

${\begin{aligned}i\hbar \partial \!\!\!/=i\hbar \gamma ^{\mu }\partial _{\mu }&=i\hbar \left(\gamma ^{1}{\frac {\partial }{\partial x^{1}}}+\gamma ^{2}{\frac {\partial }{\partial x^{2}}}+\gamma ^{3}{\frac {\partial }{\partial x^{3}}}+\gamma ^{0}{\frac {\partial }{\partial x^{0}}}\right)\\&=i\hbar \left(\gamma ^{1}{\frac {\partial }{\partial x}}+\gamma ^{2}{\frac {\partial }{\partial y}}+\gamma ^{3}{\frac {\partial }{\partial z}}+\gamma ^{0}{\frac {1}{c}}{\frac {\partial }{\partial t}}\right)\\&=i\hbar \left({\boldsymbol {\gamma }}\cdot \nabla +\gamma ^{0}{\frac {1}{c}}{\frac {\partial }{\partial t}}\right)\\\end{aligned}}$

then multiplying through by c gives dimensions of energy. Linking solves the problem. Of course its all much nicer in natural units, but the suggestion was for consistency. Sources use SI units usually in introductions then natural units after. Thanks again =) - please forget my insane and inconsiderate rudness above... =( -- F = q(E + v × B) 18:32, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

The factor of c in the first line is redundant since it is already in the x_0 coordinate. I guess there's no harm in adding the constants, but, since the link to the slash notation is given, is there any need to expand the matrices any further here? (And don't worry about the rudeness, I deserved it.) -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 01:45, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so (about the rudeness).

Anyway there is no need to fully expand, I just showed it here for clarity (its in the article later down anyway). Indeed x₀ = ct does mean the 1/c should not be there - a typo now corrected. -- F = q(E + v × B) 12:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Section deleted...

Irritating after all that has been done for it. =( Just thought I'd let you know - it happened in this edit [1].-- F = q(E + v × B) 12:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

This is why I am now semiretired. -- cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 19:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)