User talk:CanterburyUK

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Welcome to Wikipedia, CanterburyUK! I am Emilyzilch and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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thanks EmilyZilch for the welcome!

I'm wondering if I'm going about things the right way - on a page where I've been doing some editing, another person has twice summarily removed some of what I'd added. I've asked them in the Discussion page to explain why: but had a one line answer that didn't explain. Is there anything else I can do to try to understand? No-one else has chipped in to explain either, so maybe this person is on their own in their approach to editing?

Not sure you get the time to check things out... if you do, take a look at the [[Honour Killings] page. Thanks CanterburyUK (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd be happy to try to see what is going on but right now there's a lot going on at Honor killing... can you link a Diff that shows a revert that is confusing to do? ناهد/(Nåhed) _speak! 02:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

That was a quick response - thanks. Have a look at the Discussion page for honour killings, the section headed 'Itaqallah - why do you keep deleting stuff, with little explanation?'.

regards a diff...umm...not sure if this URL will work, but try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honor_killing&diff=239785683&oldid=239680881CanterburyUK (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:No original research, which disallows use of primary sources to make deductions or claims. There is no verifiable reason to believe any of the mentioned texts relate to "honour killing" in any way, as I have articulated many times on the talk page. You have also been removing other material which doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere else in the article, on the basis that it's a 're-hash'. Please explain this in more detail on the talk page. ITAQALLAH 11:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I've read it. But the Holy Book section you deleted does not make deductions or claims from the primary sources. Wikipedia:No original research says 'anyone—without specialist knowledge—who reads the primary source should be able to verify that the Wikipedia passage agrees with the primary source.' That is the case with the religious section.

What content are you concerned about, saying 'You have also been removing other material...' ?

References

Hi. Just wanted to pop in and leave a quick note about removing material. Look at the refs that might be embedded and if there's one that's "named" (usually so it can be used again with that name) it probably is used more than once. So removing the "anchor" (the ref fields with the ref name) reference destroys the necessary fields for those refs that use the "name". Cheers E_dog95' ^{Hi '} 01:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Right! You'll see that Honor killing got broken by your edits. Please do take a look. --Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 07:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Samia Sarwar

Good work there. I'm glad that you are writing this.

One thing I noticed is the sentence "Firstly, some claim that honour killings only occur among rural or uneducated groups...". This should be attributed to a person or group.

This is merely a friendly thank you (for writing the article) and a heads up before a less friendy editor comes by and causes a ruckus. E_dog95' ^{Hi '} 00:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice words. I've followed your advice and added a sourceCanterburyUK (talk) 02:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Honor Killing

The editors working on this article are playing (very strictly) by the book.

The first night that I began working on the references for that article I ran across the case of the Egyptian's from Texas. At that time it was just a few days old and I was surprised to see an incident so close to home. Their last name is Said. There has been coverage in magazines, televisions, and books. The two daughters that were killed went to Lewisville High School. I worked on that article recently and saw that an editor had included the incident. I updated the references there. One item that I found was in a book called Dark Night of the Soul. There's also this article. I'm sure there are quite a few more regarding this specific case.

So I just wanted to bring these to your attention. I do think it's good to have specific examples of honor killing mentioned in the article. Those other editors, like I said, are adhering to the rules very closely. E_dog95' ^{Hi '} 01:40, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Ways to improve Shakeel Begg

Hi, I'm Rasimmons. CanterburyUK, thanks for creating Shakeel Begg!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. This article seems to cast its subject in an extremely negative light without enough context for readers to develop a fair opinion on him. It would be best to change the language to be a little more neutral.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. R. A. Simmons ^Talk 19:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Neutrality

Hey, I see you removed the POV tag from the article again. I understand the difficulty in discussing a possible religious extremist in a neutral way, however the wording of the article itself uses some loaded language and makes unsubstantiated claims.

E.g. from the introduction: "He is extremely influential among followers of hardline conservative Islam in the UK.". Is he? How do we know this? How do we justify the use of language like "extremely influential" instead of merely saying "influential"?

I'm not having a dig, I'm just saying this article needs a great deal of work in maintaining neutrality, as well as some formatting too. I'm happy to try and help though. I've not got a great deal of experience in actually writing articles. The only article I've written was about an extinct scorpion and I ended up with a part of it was removed for being incorrectly sourced.

The POV tag was added because in reading this I don't get the sense that I'm merely reading about an unpleasant person, but I'm reading something written by someone who intensely dislikes this person, and that's not how wikipedia is meant to be written. Your choice of words suggests for instance that there's doubt over his university qualifications. The tag will be re-added: two other wikipedians have now said it needs work on the neutrality and you shouldn't remove the tag until after it's been discussed, not because you've looked over your own work and think it's neutral. As far as I can tell User:rasimmons has not had a chance to discuss the tag with you before you removed it earlier. It's very hard to accurately assess your own writing, some of the stuff I've had friends pick up in my own that I've missed is mind boggling.

I also feel that the use of constant block quotes, references to youtube videos and the structure of the sections in the article need some going over, though I'm going to have to spend some time in front of the WP:MANUAL before I know how to properly arrange stuff.

This is not personal, we're all just trying to make wikipedia the best it can be. Either respond here or on my talk page and we can work out how to bring this up to standard. Hedge89 (talk) 22:48, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

HI Hedge89: I've responded to you on the Talk page of Shakeel Beeg. I appreciate your input.

Political positions of Jeremy Corbyn

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Could you read over WP:MEAT.--Moxy (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Moxy - I've read it. I haven;t done anything listed there. What was your point?CanterburyUK (talk) 22:52, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Umar haque

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Thanks,

Slatersteven (talk) 11:52, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Slatersteven Thanks, I;ve contributed there. As I wrote there - hard to see on what basis this case is not noteworthy - every UK main media covered it in depth: and convictions in the UK for Terrorism are rare. And on top he was training a jihadi children's army.CanterburyUK (talk) 14:28, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

• Hi, In general, the best response - assuming you continue to believer that the subject is notable - is to improve the article. It can be helpful to look at teh way similar articles rated good are formatted and written. Cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:29, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Drmies complains of disruptive editing

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Drmies - That looked like boilerplate text. It would help me if you could write specifically what you refer to? I see Wiki lists 6 types of disruptive editing?CanterburyUK (talk) 20:05, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Message of Thaqalayn

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Appears to be a non-notable journal. I find only an announcement by an advertiser that it has been publishing for 17 years.

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