User talk:EdJohnston

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Tjl1128

I'm concerned about this user because they are adding unsourced data to List of countries by GDP (nominal). I noticed you warned them in December about this very subject. I'm not going to go through all of their other contributions (yet) but I think it is almost certain they are doing the same thing on other currency related articles. Considering they won't communicate on talk pages, (language issues?) I think a CIR block might be in order.  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  20:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Consider raising the issue at User talk:Tjl1128 or on article talk. There is not enough data for me to take any action. EdJohnston (talk) 18:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

George Maharis

George Maharis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I wonder if you can extend protection time. The 'arrest' thing has been added and removed for a few years. --George Ho (talk) 17:31, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

The point is to allow time for a discussion. Surely one month is sufficient. EdJohnston (talk) 18:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Inventions

(Previous discussion at User talk:2.239.136.182)

Hello, a separate article on Tito's funeral is not aencyclopedic and it's only propaganda for Josip Broz, who was not benevolent dictator: there are many books and sources in English language and other languages. In Josip Broz Tito I removed that source, simple because sentence largest funeral in history is invention! I know book of Jasper Godwin Ridley (25 May 1920 – 1 July 2004) and there is not sentence largest funeral in history in any page! But Josip Broz Tito's article is a serie of propaganda's inventions in every section! 2 examples are in section [Historical criticism]: authors Ivo Goldstein and Sabrina Ramet in those inserted sources accuse Broz Tito of crimes and not defense him with invented telegram's legend! I can continue but you can read Broz Tito's version in simple English which has many linked books and sources.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.239.136.182 (talk • contribs) 11:47, 4 April 2013‎ (UTC)

Cassandra IP sock

Hi Ed, I spotted a couple of (now thankfully rare) edits by the Cassandra IP-hopping sock just now. You'd given me a very handy range contributions link which I've been checking occasionally for activity, spotting the odd characteristic forum/POV-pushing edit over the last few months. Interestingly though, today's IP didn't show up, falling (slightly by the look of it) out of range. Not sure if this is at all significant and, not being fully au fait with the workings of range contributions, wondered either if it provided info for a further tweak, or just indicates they were editing from somewhere different to their usual base. Not to worry if it's just an anomaly and once again thanks for all the help. Mutt Lunker (talk) 15:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. You can modify that rangecontribs link to 92.12.0.0/16 if you want to look for more edits from the new range. The old block was on 92.5.0.0/19 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) but it's no longer active. EdJohnston (talk) 21:42, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Ed, I'll keep an eye on the new range. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Please extend block

Hello Ed. Thank you for your service clerking. After a week the recent protection of Democratic Party of Cook County is due to expire tomorrow, and sadly I am writing to request an extension, as only the most superficial consensus has developed in the past week. In a recent 3RR report User:Demiurge1000 described User:Homeaccount as "apparently relatively inexperienced," of which assessment I am frankly somewhat skeptical, but on the basis of that possible experience differential I am attempting with growing frustration to lean toward assuming WP:CIR rather than WP:IDHT; please if beyond an extension you had time and inclination to scan Talk:Democratic Party of Cook County and User_talk:Homeaccount I would greatly appreciate your counsel. Thanks again. Hugh (talk) 21:22, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I extended the protection for another week, in the hope that you will actively pursue WP:Dispute resolution. Consider an WP:RFC on the article talk page or a filing at WP:DRN. Let me know if you need assistance. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 21:32, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the extension and the advice and the offer of help. I have never done a WP:RFC or WP:DRN preferring to work things out 1-on-1 and bring along less experienced editors where possible. I believe the content issues on this article are straight-forward. Stepping back and reviewing the dialog at Talk:Democratic Party of Cook County and User_talk:Homeaccount, my feeling is that the fundamental problem is comprehension, more specifically, misunderstandings with respect to 1. fending off WP:MOS with appeals to RS style, 2. individual vs. collective responsibility for WP:NPOV, 3. WP:NPA, and 4. WP:IDHT. I feel clarification of our norms may be a prereq for collaboration. Might WP:RFC/U be the best tool here to initiate a level-setting discussion of policies and guidelines with a 3rd party? What is your advice? Thanks again. Hugh (talk) 19:13, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I could not agree more with the extension as the warring editor has made no attempt to even begin to articulate his issues with the content of the article in the last seven days. Sadly, no progress has been made. -- Homeaccount (talk) 20:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Kammrup region lede

User:Bhaskarbhagawati has again edited the lede on Kamrup region (diff) without first trying to resolve the issue on the talk page (Talk:Kamrup region#Lede dispute -- A summary). If you recall, he initiated the process (here) Chaipau (talk) 09:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I have notified Bhaskarbhagawati so that he may respond here if he wishes. EdJohnston (talk) 15:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello EdJohnston ! Thanks for your message. Actually i tried to incorporate original lede i.e at the time of creation which has inline reference and Chaipau's version as compromise till we reach consensus in later time. Please advice us. भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 15:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Since Chaipau reverted your change, it seems not to have consensus. Can you open a discussion with him to reach an actual agreement before changing the lead again? By now you're in deep water and you should consider making a serious effort to be diplomatic. EdJohnston (talk) 15:50, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Grateful for your guidance. Please check this government district links to verify name of Kamrup in ancient times http://kamrup.nic.in/histfr.htm http://kamrupmetro.nic.in/history.asp Thanks ! भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 16:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Giving me content arguments is not helpful. Please get back to me after you've contacted User:Chaipau and reached an agreement with him. Or link to any discussion where you think consensus was reached. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Unoccupied redlinks with accents

Hi Ed, yes thanks for the note, yes I'm aware it does seem rather wasteful of admin time to be putting in TRs for moves that can be done oneself. The reason is that at least a year or 18 months ago there were still 2 or 3 editors vocally objecting to foreign squiggly bits on foreigners' names - in fact it was still controversial up to the Talk:Dominik Halmosi bulk RM which seems to have WP HOCKEY confirm an existing consensus, and for that reason BDD and I think I recall also BobRayner have suggested it is better at least for the time being to do as TR to at least give some visibility via the move at least appearing on the TR header. However against this I've had 2 admins, and you are the 3rd, say it not an issue and just move them when they are redlinks. To be honest if a 4th admin says the same I will do just that. In the meantime the number is very small, the vast bulk of 4 million articles have European accents where appropriate, so these are a few BLP stubs here and there. But your point is taken, it is creating extra work to list them, I do understand that. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, no problem. For people who seem to have their career in a Francophone country, have a name that looks French, and where at least one source supports it I would not think that adding the French accent would be very controversial. I wouldn't apply the same thinking to anything other than French. German can get into subtleties with the umlaut and the esszet that could require study. Spanish names are complicated since the person may be well-known in an Anglophone country and you could argue that the WP:COMMONNAME is not accented. And certainly any names from Eastern Europe can become controversial. EdJohnston (talk) 15:12, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The WP Germany MOS has some guidelines. For Germany Wikipedia represents the umlaut in all cases except change of nationality, (e.g. Schoenberg) but the esszet in only some. WP SPAIN doesn't have a formal MOS, but observation of article reality shows that we also don't anglicize Dominicans unless they change citizenship, and a green card is not a loss of BLP primary nationality. As far as East Europe Talk:Dominik Halmosi indicates that after the banning of 1 editor the rest of WP HOCKEY no longer finds East Europeans' names controversial. However, if you see any tennis players as TRs don't move them! In ictu oculi (talk) 01:27, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

So the game of hockey is now an oasis of peace and tranquillity, while the tennis editors dispute over accents? EdJohnston (talk) 01:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

The editor causing the trouble at Hockey got caught manually locking redirects by redirect-edits after controversial moves, then caught again socking. Hockey seems to have been peace and light since. One editor is all it takes. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Nationalist self made map by User:Ebrahimi-amir

Hi Ed, I am going to report Ebrahimi Amir to arbcomm for his violation of not getting a consensus for controversial edits. --Xodabande14 (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2013 (UTC) Sorry Ed..that was me..I had already declared it as my account. I declare my accounts. It has to do with the location I am at and also trying to quit. So I revised the previous message and I will submitting an AE request right now. Thanks.--Xodabande14 (talk) 01:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I just asked Ebrami-amir to respond here and you removed the thing I wanted him to respond to. EdJohnston (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

This has been a pattern with this user. I am currently preparing an Arbcomm report for admins to see. Will keep you up to date. Sorry to write so much recently..--Xodabande14 (talk) 02:00, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Unclear to me just whose pattern it is, since your edits are confusing and your switching of accounts is hard to follow. You removed the data about his behavior that I hoped we could discuss. EdJohnston (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I write about it in here and here. Thanks.--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 11:24, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Ebrahimi Amir again

Sorry..I put in the AE board. I wanted to discuss behavior but he actually violated his term for being unbanned. Also it is more controversial than it might seem, as the user is inserting his own self-made map! If you read it carefully, Doug Weller had a comment also on the map he made. --Xodabande14 (talk) 02:48, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Move of Budget album

When you moved Budget album and deleted Budget Albums, it broke a whole bunch of redirects to the latter page. If you move any more pages and delete the original title, please check if anything redirects there first; otherwise, they will all get tagged for speedy deletion and we could lose a whole bunch of valid redirects. (I also restored Budget Albums, since it seems like a valid title for a redirect.) TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 09:34, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that! I should have been more careful. EdJohnston (talk) 13:12, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit Warring Copernican Principle

I strongly disagree. These guys (materialscientist, Drbogdan, and Lithopsian especially) keep reverting my edits; though well thought out and documented. They keep telling me to go to talk, and weeks go by, and no one discusses this. I will take this further. These guys are basically trying to sweep the truth under the rug and use Wikipedia to lie to the public. Let them ban me. They are liars at best, and probably much worse, and are making a fool of Wikipedia. Every cosmologist knows that what I am saying is true, but the establishment cosmologist who want to protect billions in funding wants to whitewash the truth. Is this what Wikipedia is about? Call any cosmologist you know, and ask if the CMB anisotropies and correlation to the ecliptic are an issue for LCDM, big bang, or inflation, and if they have an ounce of integrity they will tell you yes. Read the references I supplied. I plan on publicizing this widely, and Wikipedia is going to have egg on its face. The truth is breaking out, but apparently not on Wikipedia- the last ditch defense for the establishment. Wyattmj (talk) 17:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

See WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 01:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Meetup NYC this Sunday April 14

Hi EdJohnston! You're invited to our next meeting for Wikipedia Meetup NYC on Sunday April 14 -this weekend- at Symposium Greek Restaurant @ 544 W 113th St (in the back room), on the Upper West Side in the Columbia University area.

Please sign up, and add your ideas to the agenda for Sunday. Thanks!

Delivered on behalf of User:Pharos, 18:08, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Copernicus (RfC: rewrite of the nationality section)

As you probably already know, some Polish users seem to be 'silenced down' by (German?) admins from voicing their opinions and concerns regarding the handling of article's edits/amendments on Copernicus' nationality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicolaus_Copernicus#RfC:_rewrite_of_the_nationality_section

My comment, for that matter, has been deleted. See its' copy below:

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• I support the version proposed by Astronomer28 ([1]), which provides a clear, concise & neutral explanation of Copernicus' nationality, with the focus not on multiple free quotes from different historians and other people, but mainly on providing encyclopedic sources stating his nationality, which is Wikipedia's core principle. Also, regarding the above comment by IIIraute, I certainly don't agree with your proposal that "only established editor opinions should be taken into account", as before this new section was estbalished and the discussion started, two Polish users Astronomer28 and Mieszko_8 were banned yesterday by the admin Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise, whose native language is - surprise, surprise - German. Hence, it may give rise to justified suspicion of a typical German sneaky attitude for handling the case in their favour in an unfair way.

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It appears that Wikipedia is sadly drifting into the direction of right and righteous. Should it be the case, it would lead to Wikipedia's gradual demise.

109.78.220.220 (talk) 01:08, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

It makes you even more credible when you assume that admins are biased due to their nationality. The last time I heard Future Perfect criticized for such reasons it was due to his knowledge of the Greek language. That implies (of course) that he must be pro-Greek. EdJohnston (talk) 01:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Which is actually wrong, because as others have pointed out, I am thoroughly anti-Greek and pro-FYROMIAN. I'm also a paid agent of the Turkish secret service. To cover this all up, I've decided to only identify as a primate on my user page. Simia sum, nil simiani a me alienum puto. Hence, it logically follows that I always have a privileged super-neutral perspective on everything. Fortunately, pro-simian and anti-simian POVs are rarely much of an issue in Wikipedia debates. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:56, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

@Ed, almost all users who participated in the current Serafin SPI received a similar message, it's Mieszko 8 evading his block again [2]. Skäpperöd (talk) 05:08, 13 April 2013 (UTC)