User talk:El C

If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.

For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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4Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry

I was trying to add the shared IP template but accidentally clicked on the wrong section... 172.58.40.192 (talk) 00:18, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

No worries. El_C 00:20, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Edit request

Hi. Thanks for adding those sources in the article about Israel. I don't want to bother you, but I have one last request, nothing else. As you can see here, there's a duplicated paragraph in the article about Hamas. Also New Zealand is missing from the paragraph. Thank you very much. Have a great day!--Yschilov (talk) 17:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Done and done. El_C 23:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Operation Accountability in Yitzhak Rabin

Hi. Could you get a new source for this or an antivirus for Paine Ellsworth? It's kind of an important conflict when Rabin was Prime Minister. Thanks--Yschilov (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I found "Operation Accountability: Step by step," Mako, 12-09-93 (Hebrew), it mentions his role and him refusing to expand it further: Defense Minister Ehud Barack wanted to attack in Beirut too, but head of Aman, Uri Sagi disagreed. Rabin sided with Sagi. El_C 08:26, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

David Irving

Thanks, but your version still used "historian" as a descriptor, and there's a long standing consensus not to use the word. Doug Weller talk 09:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

That's my bad (an oversight). I support your changes. Regards, El_C 09:12, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

All too easy to miss things, no worries. Doug Weller talk 18:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Imagination

Italy an India in the map of Power (policy) aren't without doubt according to all the articles at the same level of Turkey or others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.97.225.68 (talk) 11:02, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Me and my colleague disagree, and more crucially, so does the properly-sourced map. El_C 11:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Rev del

Hi El C: For the Kiana Brown page, I think we may have tried to rev delete a contentious edit simultaneously, whereby I rev deleted the content, and then you may have accidentally restored it in the process of also seeking to rev delete the content. (See the Deletion log for the page). Please advise if this is what occurred. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

N.b. I figured my initial rev delete didn't take, which seemed to be the case when I checked the article's Revision history and then content was still there right after performing the rev del. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:43, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for catching that. El_C 03:54, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey, great minds think like, we had the same idea at the same time, and then took the same actions at the same time. Thanks for letting me know. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:55, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Fer sure. All is well now. El_C 03:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Murphy's law

I noticed you fully protected Murphy's law indefinitely. Did you mean to semi-protect the article? —MRD2014 📞 What I've done 02:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

No, I meant to fully protect it, but I'm gonna lift in like an hour or so. El_C 02:43, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for clarifying. —MRD2014 📞 What I've done 02:45, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Tel Aviv population

Hi. In the administrative divisions of the Israel article, the last sentence says Tel Aviv and Haifa rank as Israel's next most populous cities, with populations of and 278,903, respectively. Obviously there's a number missing, which is 432,892 according to given source. Therefore, the sentence should say Tel Aviv and Haifa rank as Israel's next most populous cities, with populations of 432,892 and 278,903, respectively. Could you please add the population of Tel Aviv? Thanks.--Yschilov (talk) 13:15, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Got it. El_C 13:24, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Arendt and Habermas

The following edit [2] was introduced into the Legacy section with reference to contributions of Arendt and Habermas to Marx studies. Another editor took exception and asked for quotation to be added. After it was added, the same editor indicated that some basic phrases in poitical economy were not known to him. The dialogue is below and the material appears to be useful to add to the article which currently inaccurately identifies only two sources of critique. JohnWickTwo (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Both Hannah Arendt and Jurgen Habermas have extensive Marxist credentials. When I found that Wikipedia already has articles about two of their books dealing with these issues, then I did not include quotations from those books in the Marx article since interested readers could look at the articles for their books which I linked. It seemed that an article on Marx should not need extensive quotations from these books which might distract the reader of the Marx article, although both Arendt and Habermas discuss Marx by name extensively. Is there a way to return some of this mention of Arendt and Habermas to the Marx article? JohnWickTwo (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I, actually, still think we need to be more specific. I don't think it's distracting in the form of refs (explanatory and otherwise). Also, establishing their KM credentials (in modern historiography) is also worthwhile: proving they are a third main current. What they each say can be further clarified, too. El_C 15:52, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Here is a quote from Habermas which is to the point from 1981, Habermas, Kleine Politische Schrifen I-IV, pp. 500f., which states:

"The point on which I differ from traditional Marxist analysis is that, today, when we use the means of the critique of political economy, we can no longer make clear predictions: for that, one would still have to assume the autonomy of a self-reproducing economic system. I do not believe in such an autonomy. Precisely for this reason, the laws governing the economic system are no longer identical to the ones Marx analyzed. Of course, this does not mean that it would be wrong to analyze the mechanism which drives the economic system; but in order for the orthodox version of such an analysis to be valid, the influence of the political system would have to be ignored."

This is a little long but perhaps you could figure out a way to shorten it for including it in the Marx article. Critique of totalitarianism as asserted in Marx has been a major topic in 20th century Marx legacy assessment and should be included in the article. JohnWickTwo (talk) 16:10, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Sure, perhaps excerpt parts of it. But clarify what he means by "autonomy of a self-reproducing economic system," first. As for totalitarianism: what do you mean by "as asserted in Marx?" For this article, I think it needs, specifically, to connect to KM. Otherwise, there may be more suitable articles. El_C 16:26, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

But an issue I took with your version related to your "limits of totalitarian perspectives" (ascribed to whom?) which I find somewhat unclear. Point is, there could be more than two or three main responses to KM and his body of work—and, no mention of the East in that discussion, just the West. El_C 16:48, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok, going with your version with no new additions and I'll shorten the blockquote somewhat for inclusion there. JohnWickTwo (talk) 16:58, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

What I suggest is that you take your proposal to the article talk page first for the purpose of gaining consensus for it. El_C 17:07, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Blockquote was shortened as you requested and "autonomy of a self-reproducing economic system" is fairly basic wording in Marxist commentary as used by Habermas here. The edit appears to be worth adding to the article. JohnWickTwo (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Moving to Marx Talk page. JohnWickTwo (talk) 17:39, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. It's a not insignificant addition, so it's worthwhile getting some feedback and seeing what the consensus is. El_C 17:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

That blue color

Your page inspired me (thanks!), and, found a way to get rid of the blue color, beneath your "Vanity page," on User:El C. Can look at edit linking to "Articles I wrote," under User:Dino; the edit at bottom of User:Dino.

Caveat: If you wish to get rid of the blue color. Just trying to be helpful.

dino (talk) 02:46, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Hit me with it! Best, El_C 02:51, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

The Answer

On User:Dino, took your wiki markup on User:El C,

<font color=696969><center>'''[[User:El_C/Vanity|Vanity page]]'''</font> {| width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="10" style="background-color: #f0f8ff; border-style:none; border-width:3px; border-color:" |- |valign="top" style="border-style:solid; border-width:33px; border-color:#f0f8ff; background-color:##00bfff; color:#00bfff;"| {| align="center" |- |}

Can't put the carraige returns in, some wiki hassle. The above led to your "Vanity page."

On my page, used simply

<font color=696969><center>'''[[User:Dino/Articles I wrote|Articles I wrote]]'''</font>

Hope this helps. Questions, hassles, concerns about the meaning of life or how to cook with hot chili peppers, zip me a note, on my talk page. Do let me know, if all works.

dino (talk) 01:24, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Can you show me what you mean by editing my userpage directly? El_C 01:35, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

AE action appeal by Casprings

Apparently User:Casprings did not notify you of his appeal. I am chalking this up to possible inexperience (I don't know). So, it seemed easier for me to provide you with this notification, rather than try to figure out if he is editing on Wikipedia at this moment - even that would be just a guess. So, the appeal is taking place on the WP:AE page, here is the link 00:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC) -----Steve Quinn (talk) 01:44, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I did ping you, but didn't do this. My apologies. I know to do this when reporting users and should have thought to do it here. My apologies.Casprings (talk) 01:48, 19 February 2017 (UTC)