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Thanks for the Barnstar

Hi, and thanks for the Barnstar, although I have to admit that I never finished the history. Le Forestier wasn't easy to work from, and my mother came down with dementia before I got to the final days, which were itemised in tedious detail in the original French. I do hope to get back to it soon, and your encouragement has really cheered up my day. Thanks again. Fiddlersmouth (talk) 13:51, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2020-02

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Changes later this week

When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 January. It will be on all wikis from 9 January (calendar).

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21:20, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-03

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Recent changes

You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser use very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It can lead to downgrade attacks. Since 9 December you just see a warning. Soon the browser will not connect to the wikis at all. Most are users on Android systems older than 4.4. You can read the browser recommendations. [2]
Special:LinkSearch has been moved from the "Redirecting special pages" section on Special:SpecialPages to the "Lists of pages" section. [3]

Changes later this week

Wikis can protect pages so that only some users can edit them. The standard protection levels are Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access and Require administrator access. If your wiki use more protection levels the technical name might be renamed for standardisation. This doesn't affect what users see. [4]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 January. It will be on all wikis from 16 January (calendar).

Future changes

Deepcat and Catgraph will stop working. This will happen at the end of January. This is because you can now use the normal search function instead. [5]
You can use <ref follow="…"> to merge footnotes that follow each other. It is meant to be used for digitised books on Wikisource. If the order of the footnotes is wrong no error was shown but the bad <ref> was shown outside the <references /> list. This will change and you will see an error message instead. [6]

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Tech News: 2020-04

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Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 January. It will be on all wikis from 23 January (calendar).

Future changes

There is a new suggestion for what to show when someone edits without registering an account. This is to give unregistered editors better privacy and make some anti-vandalism work go faster. You can give feedback.
Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will no longer support Python 2. Use the python2 tag if you need to continue running Python 2 scripts. The Pywikibot team strongly recommends to migrate to Python 3. You can get help to do so. [7]
The weekly MediaWiki branch cut will soon become automated. The timing for this cut may change. You can discuss in Phabricator if this affects you. [8]
You can read about coming technical events and mentoring interns.

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19:41, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 January 2020

From the editor: Reaching six million articles is great, but we need a moratorium

News and notes: Six million articles on the English language Wikipedia

Special report: The limits of volunteerism and the gatekeepers of Team Encarta

In the media: Turkey's back up, but what's happening with Dot-org and a new visual identity?

Arbitration report: Three cases at ArbCom

Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2019

Gallery: Wiki Loves Monuments 2019, we're all winners

News from the WMF: Capacity Building: Top 5 Themes from Community Conversations

Community view: Our most important new article since November 1, 2015

In focus: Cryptos and bitcoins and blockchains, oh no!

Recent research: How useful is Wikipedia for novice programmers trying to learn computing concepts?

From the archives: A decade of The Signpost, 2005-2015

On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?

WikiProject report: WikiProject Japan: a wikiProject Report

Humour: Predicting the 6,000,000th article

Obituary: Remembering Wikipedia contributor Brian Boulton

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Tech News: 2020-05

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Problems

Some mobile diffs have problems. A couple of buttons are not shown. Structured data diffs on Commons are confusing. The developers are working on fixing it. [9][10]
Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions can't move discussion pages. This is a bug. The developers are working on fixing it. [11]

Changes later this week

There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

There is JavaScript code on Special:Undelete for administrators that makes it possible to automatically select multiple checkboxes by holding the "Shift" key and clicking. This code is also loaded by accident on other special pages and on articles. This makes pages slower to load. This will be fixed. If you know of other special pages where this is useful please tell the developers at phab:T232688.

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18:52, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Source suggestion for the article to be created "Workweek length reduction"

Hi! :) I was browsing your user page due to having red that you are interested in economics. I reached this page and just remembered that I must have cited one author on a "work paper(?)[I'm not a native English speaker sorry :) ] that I did in 2016(?) for Economics II class on Law School... and I just found out that that paper is on my shelf :)

It seems that the paper is not longer online :/ I can't find it and wasn't archived on the original URL here. You may find the citation here here.

I still remember that it was a awesome source :D, unfortunately I had a negative note on the paper :P

I cited this source on a chapter called [translated from the portuguese]"Correlation between the increase of productivity and diminushing of the work schedule[workweek]". I presumed that if there is a reduced % of hours worked per week there is thus a need by companies to increase their labour ranks, thus reducing unemployment... if there is more people working and working less hours I concluded on the paper that there is an increase in productivity and real GDP growth.

In the paper I wrote and have in front of me, there is a quote by G. Houpis on the aboved stated paper:

"Our results suggest that reductions in hours of work are not likely to lead to an increase in the hourly wage and will therefore reduce umeployment by sharing any given volume of work among more people"

My commentary, that I wrote right now :P [Mr. G. Houpis... What about increased tax revenue coming from labor taxes? This value of taxes is positive and the reduced need to expenditure on social spending [e.g. unemployment benefits], also positive to the budget deficit... may lead to more money invested in infrastructures and education/health expenditure thus increasing real[?] or thus discounted with due inflation all wages].

I hope to have explain this suggestion of a source to you in a clear way :)

What do you think about it?

Ty! FranciscoMMartins (talk) 22:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@FranciscoMMartins: perhaps you want Workweek and weekend#Length? EllenCT (talk) 12:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Other suggestion

Hi, again! :) Sorry for writing all this... :P I just remembered to share with you this article about minimum wage increase without unemployment increase, in Portugal: here. You may translated on google translator for example. If you find some "oddness" on said translation just ping me or contact me to franciscomartinsautor[@]tutanota.de

No problem in asking it to me! I really like economics... and I Portuguese... so I love portuguese economics, minus the part of the huge debt, corruption and all that :D FranciscoMMartins (talk) 22:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedians for Sustainable Development - January Newsletter

This is our second newsletter and the first covering 2020, January.

Meetings

We had our second online coordination meeting, minutes are available.[2]

Social media

We started a Facebook group, Wikimedians for Sustainable Development Collaboration Group.[1]

Upcoming events

9 February - our third Online Coordination meeting.[3]
6 March - We are giving a keynote at Open Belgium.[4]
8 March - Several Wikigap events are being planned.[5]

Links

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Tech News: 2020-06

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20:04, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-07

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Recent changes

There is a new version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It should fix the failed uploads problem. [12]

Problems

There was a problem with the new MediaWiki version last week. It deleted some messages by accident. The new version was late because it was stopped to fix things. [13]

Changes later this week

The MediaWiki action API is used by various tools like bots and gadgets. Some error codes will change. Some parameter values that do not follow the standard will no longer work. [14]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 February. It will be on all wikis from 13 February (calendar).

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19:11, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-08

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Recent changes

Pages on Wikidata and Commons now load faster. You can read more about page load performance. [15][16]

Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 February. It will be on all wikis from 20 February (calendar).

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16:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

RfC notifications

EllenCT, for what it's worth, and this is just my opinion, I don't think your RfC notifications are very neutral.[[17]] Perhaps neutral is less the problem vs they aren't matter of fact. Certainly there is some debate about the quality of the sourcing but I'm not sure "strongly opposed" is a good description of the debate as we already have middle ground proposals. This isn't a case where one side says "MUST BE IN" while the other side says "NEVER BE IN". It's my feeling the notifications should just briefly describe the question at hand and not mention much else. I'm not really seeing the lack of good faith accusations but perhaps I just missed them. If you mean bias between editors again I'm not seeing that any more than a good faith disagreement. This is just my opinion and I don't want you to take it as anything more than something to contemplate. I hope you don't mind that I said it. Take care! Springee (talk) 13:50, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2020-09

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Changes later this week

The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 February. It will be on all wikis from 27 February (calendar).

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There will be a reply button after each post on a talk page if you want one. This will soon be a beta feature on the Arabic, French, Dutch and Hungarian Wikipedias. You will have to turn it on if you want to use it. It will come to more wikis later. You can test the reply button. It was briefly shown earlier than planned by mistake on the four first wikis last week.

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20:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Section links in Lead

I've been looking for where section links in the lead are "forbidden" and have not found (or missed) it in WP:MOS and WP:MOSLEAD. Would you be so kind as to give me an idea where else I should look? Thanks.
I was not happy myself with them in the Electronic cigarette article, rather only included them in an attempt to mitigate the bloat of added words to the lead and hopefully direct others to editing the relevant existing sections, which themselves need much cleanup.

And speaking of leads, I have left a comment about EVALI on the E-Cig Talk page that I'd appreciate your comment on. I'm not a fan of the subject myself, thinking it was at the least "unfortunate" but it hospitalized thousands & killed 68 people so like it or not it's substantial, and it had world-wide impact on the confidence in E-Cig safety. As far as edits to the topic, it's clearly inflammatory and should get resolved for everyone's benefit, imo. Thanks. Jd4x4 (talk) 14:07, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jd4x4: I thought for sure those were prohibited, but can't find any mention of them now. I asked at WT:MOSLEAD#Section links from intro paragraphs? and replied to the EVALI question on the article talk page. EllenCT (talk) 15:43, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@EllenCT: (Still have years to go to discover all these tags, lol) Thanks for looking. But, I didn't like them much myself so no biggie. Jd4x4 (talk) 22:14, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kyle Kulinski (February 29)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Sulfurboy was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: This is improperly sourced and an article about this subject was just deleted via a AfD discussion less than a month ago. I don't see anything that's changed in the past few weeks to suddenly make this subject notable.

Sulfurboy (talk) 09:22, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, EllenCT! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Sulfurboy (talk) 09:22, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

I’ve closed this AN thread with a warning to you to not disrupt Wikipedia to prove a point in the future. You can participate in the branding discussions all you want on meta, but please don’t make up threads that you instantly abandon and report back to meta as failed. Also please don’t needlessly elevate things outside of our normal process of dealing with disputes in order to make it seem like there is conflict here. Both are disruptive. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:04, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyBallioni: I abandoned the AN thread, but my unblock efforts continue on User talk:SnøhettaAS#Proposed appeal. I don't think I am trying to prove a point, but I really want to know what point(s) you think I might be. If I had my first choice it would be to replace my binary meta RFC with the straw poll as I tried. Why doesn't Meta have something like WP:SNOW? EllenCT (talk) 22:17, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You’ve perhaps been one of the strongest opponents of the branding effort there with the binary poll. An appeal that as an established user here you know should have known would be all but guaranteed to fail makes that effort look bad. You then instantly reported one comment by a non-admin back to meta as an appeal being declined. Brushing up community furor over paid editing is a pretty guaranteed way to make the branding effort even more unpopular, and it looks like you intentionally are trying to portray that we’ve blocked a company and that the community doesn’t support an unblock. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:22, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The administrator requirements for an unblock are not just reasonable, they're more than generous, and I included all of them with a detailed explanation in my proposed unblock rationale for Leila. I believe it is feasible to shape the rebranding effort into a process which won't harm chapters or affiliates, is consistent with community desires, and satisfactory for the Foundation design and legal staff. I understand your concerns and am taking some time away from editing to think about how Draft:BrandingWikipedia.org can cronicle the events so far. Furthermore, please understand that the Board hasn't published minutes for over a year, so how was anyone supposed to know they had already approved the rebranding? If you want to blame someone for the drama here, please blame the lack of Board transparency. EllenCT (talk) 22:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, please don’t use en.wiki as a tool in whatever you’re involved with on meta, which based on the above, it seems like you want to do that. They get mad when we export our dramah there. We don’t like it when meta drama is exported here either. Let the user appeal on their own, just like any other unblock. A lifting or decline to lift the block shouldn’t have any impact on whatever the WMF is doing. I’m not concerned where the board spends money. I am concerned about volunteer time on this project being wasted as part of some effort on meta that most people here don’t care about. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:38, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kyle Kulinski (March 1)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reasons left by Sulfurboy were: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.

Sulfurboy (talk) 07:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedians for Sustainable Development - February Newsletter

This is our third newsletter covering February 2020. This issue has news related to SDGs 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 13, 14, 15 and 17.

Meetings

We had our third online coordination meeting, minutes are available. (SDG 17) [1]

Content

Wikimedia Australia works on bushfire related content. (SDG 13) [7]
Creative Commons have published a new book: "Creative Commons for Educators and Librarians". (SDG 4) [10]
The Sustainable Development Goals template that was used on the Wikimania wiki has been copied to meta [12] and also adapted to an inline version. [13] They should be easy to copy to other wikis as well. (SDG all)
There are now user boxes available on some projects. (SDG 17) [16]
The WHO Electronic Essential Medicines List (eEML) has been released under a Creative Commons Attribution license. (SDG 3) [20]

In the news

On Wikipedia, a fight is raging over coronavirus disinformation (SDG 3) [11]
Does Biodiversity Informatics 💘 Wikidata? (SDG 14 & 15) [18]
Coronavirus in Wikipedia by language — visualized (SDG 3) [23]

Highlighting

Wikimedia Sverige has started a section on their website dedicated to the Sustainable Development Goals. (SDG all) [14]

Upcoming events

2-6 March - Open Education Week. (SDG 4) [21]
6 March - We are giving a keynote at Open Belgium. (SDG 17) [2]
8 March - Several Wikigap events are being planned. (SDG 5) [3]
11 March - Climate Justice Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, New York City, USA (SDG 10 & 13) [19]
[CANCELLED] - Wikimedia Summit 2020 cancelled due to global health risks (SDG 3) [22]

New properties on Wikidata

AnimalBase ID (SDG 14 & 15) [15]
Open Food Facts label (SDG 2) [17]

New Wikidata query examples

Number of cases of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus reported per country (SDG 3) [4]
Map of medical facilities in Kalimpong district, India, color-coded by type (SDG 3) [5]
Books related to LGBTI+ topics (SDG 5) [6]
Timeline of same-sex marriage legalization in various countries (SDG 5) [8]
Chart of the number of infections and deaths caused since the outbreak of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, as reported by the World Health Organisation (SDG 3) [9]

Links

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The Signpost: 1 March 2020

From the editor: The ball is in your court

News and notes: Alexa ranking down to 13th worldwide

Special report: More participation, more conversation, more pageviews

In the media: Mapping IP editors, Smithsonian open-access, and coronavirus disinformation

Discussion report: Do you prefer M or P?

Arbitration report: Two prominent administrators removed

By the numbers: How many actions by administrators does it take to clean up spam?

Community view: The Incredible Invisible Woman

In focus: History of The Signpost, 2015–2019

Recent research: Wikipedia generates $50 billion/year consumer surplus in the US alone

From the archives: Is Wikipedia for sale?

Traffic report: February articles, floating in the dark

Gallery: Feel the love

On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?

Op-Ed: What I learned as Wikimedia UK Communications Coordinator

Opinion: Wikipedia is another country

Humour: The Wilhelm scream

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Salting Drafts

Yes, drafts are occasionally salted, typically with Extended-Confirmed protection rather than full protection, if they are being repeatedly and tendentiously resubmitted, often by paid editors. It is sometimes necessary to salt them with silver nitrate. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:37, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon: is the opposition to Kyle, the commentator, because of his political views? EllenCT (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't know. Wikipedia leans to left-center. Kyle is left of left-center, and is probably viewed as a Trotskyite by the loud right-wing minority in Wikipedia. My own opinion is that most of the loud right-wingers and some of the noisy left-wingers should be squelched under WP:ARBAP2, but that is only my opinion. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At this point the draft is a wounded monster and needs to be shot with silver bullets, but those are not cheap. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon: Would you please refrain from referring to deleting BLPs in terms of weapons, intentional infliction of injury, or war on my talk page? What are your personal opinions on Kyle? Is he the sort of person around whom you would feel comfortable? What are your political views? Have you taken http://politiscales.net ? EllenCT (talk) 21:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How is any of that relevant in the context of a repeatedly recreated article? Natureium (talk) 00:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Natureium: do you believe such context justifies the use of such language? Do you object to my questions about attitudes and motivations; if so, on what grounds? EllenCT (talk) 00:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that "silver bullet" is widely known to refer to a solution to a problem and to silly things such as legends about killing vampires. I find nothing wrong with this metaphor. And yes, I think demanding someone share their political views is inappropriate. Nothing he has said suggests that he is being motivated by politics. Natureium (talk) 00:49, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does "most of the loud right-wingers and some of the noisy left-wingers should be squelched" imply politics? EllenCT (talk) 01:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to template you because I expect an editor with your tenure to know better but What are your personal opinions on Kyle? Is he the sort of person around whom you would feel comfortable? What are your political views? Have you taken http://politiscales.net? this is nothing short of a personal attack, especially combined with your edit at the MFD implying that there was misconduct on RM's part. No one is under any obligation to divulge their personal feelings or political leanings. You know the rest of this song and dance, maybe you should take a few steps back and calm down before you wind up sanctioned or blocked. Praxidicae (talk) 00:47, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You think asking about those feelings is a personal attack? Doesn't that imply you know the answer? EllenCT (talk) 01:25, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did not answer the question about my political views because I was ignoring a casting of aspersions. If User:EllenCT asks any further questions about my political views or makes any inappropriate inferences, I may have to go to Arbitration Enforcement under WP:ARBAP2. When I recommended the squelching of right-wingers and left-wingers, my whole point is that politically motivated editors are a plague in Wikipedia, which has a neutral point of view. Does User:EllenCT really want to be one of the noisy left-wingers who needs to be silenced along with her opponents, or is she willing to put her political views aside and edit neutrally? Robert McClenon (talk) 05:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2020-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

Readers who were not logged in briefly saw the interface in a language decided by their browser. It should normally be in the language of the wiki. This happened for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug. [18]

Changes later this week

If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You will now be able to choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This will be a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. [19]
When you asked for a new password you could see if the username didn't exist on Special:PasswordReset. Now the page will show the username you entered and tell you an email has been sent if the username exists. This is for better security. [20]
On Special:WhatLinksHere you can see what other pages link to a page. You can see if the link is from a redirect. You can now see which section the redirect links to. [21]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 March. It will be on all wikis from 5 March (calendar).

Future changes

The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. You can give feedback. [22]
There is a vote on the creation of a new user group called abuse filter manager. The vote runs from March 1 to March 31 on Meta.
wgMFSpecialCaseMainPage was used for the mobile site. It was deprecated in 2017. It will stop working in April. Wikis should see if they use it. If they do they should fix it. You can read more and ask for help. This affects 183 wikis. There is a list. [23]

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00:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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 *I'm not going to template you because I expect an editor with your tenure to know better but {{tq|What are your personal opinions on Kyle? Is he the sort of person around whom you would feel comfortable? What are your political views? Have you taken http://politiscales.net?}} this is nothing short of a personal attack, especially combined with your edit at the MFD implying that there was misconduct on RM's part. No one is under any obligation to divulge their personal feelings or political leanings. You know the rest of this song and dance, maybe you should take a few steps back and calm down before you wind up sanctioned or blocked. [[User:Praxidicae|Praxidicae]] ([[User talk:Praxidicae|talk]]) 00:47, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 ::You think asking about those feelings is a personal attack? Doesn't that imply you know the answer? [[User:EllenCT|EllenCT]] ([[User talk:EllenCT#top|talk]]) 01:25, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
+:::I did not answer the question about my political views because I was ignoring a [[WP:ASPERSIONS|casting of aspersions]].  If [[User:EllenCT]] asks any further questions about my political views or makes any inappropriate inferences, I may have to go to [[WP:AE|Arbitration Enforcement]] under [[WP:ARBAP2]].  When I recommended the squelching of right-wingers and left-wingers, my whole point is that politically motivated editors are a plague in Wikipedia, which has a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]].  Does [[User:EllenCT]] really want to be one of the noisy left-wingers who needs to be silenced along with her opponents, or is she willing to put her political views aside and edit neutrally?  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 05:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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