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Your GA nomination of Freemasonry and women
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Your GA nomination of Freemasonry
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Contact with the GLOSCurator
Hi there, this does seem to be an easier way to communicate. I suppose I will also have a 'talk' page? Many thanks for all your help. I wonder if there is a book: Wikipedia For Dummies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GLOSCurator (talk • contribs) 15:08, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Grand Lodge of British Freemasons in Germany
Many thanks for your watchful eyes on the above page in Wikipedia. The person who has been meddling with that page is a man who was rightly kicked out of the Craft some years ago. He was at one time a leading member of that Grand Lodge, an outstanding ritualist and at one time rose to the Office of Junior Grand Warden. It could be argued that he was unfairly treated which led to his being removed from the Grand Lodge, but that is where all sympathy for him comes to an abrupt end!
You say in one of your edits that he made you laugh - don't laugh. He created two web-sites www.glbfg.de and www.gcbramg.com in which he wrote some of the most disgusting and frankly libelous harangues I have ever read. Both of these web-sites have thankfully been deleted, but he has taken to sending emails of a disgraceful nature to all the Brethren in the GL-BFG and more recently he has been posting rubbish on the guestbook-page of the new Grand Lodge of British Freemasons in Germany website www.gl-bfg.com using the pseudonym WBro Brian Malcolm 841 (he must think we're stupid). The "W" should stand for "Worshipful" - I rather think it stands for "wicked".
He will undoubtedly deny that he has been dismissed from Freemasonry, but denial doesn't kill facts. He suggested in one of his silly edits that only the United Grand Lodges of Germany (VGLvD) can expel someone from the Craft. That of course is absolute rubbish. The five individual Grand Lodges in Germany are all largely independent and have the powers to act independently, which includes removal from the Craft. The VGLvD is a body which provides the link to other Grand Lodges in the World. Certainly it has a kind of governing function and is the highest court in the German Freemasons movement. But in matters of a disciplinary nature, it purely acts as the organ to disseminate the information to other Grand Lodges and has no powers to overturn or to enact a decision made by one of the individual Grand Lodges. Its main function is to ensure Freemasonry in Germany acts in accordance with the key principles and tenets of the Craft and does this through the medium of the Senate.
I have been a member of the GL BFG for many years and if I can help you in your quest in respect of Freemasonry, I'll do what I can. By the way, I have also been active in helping some ladies to involve themselves in Womens' Freemasonry here in Germany.
- Thanks for your message on my talk-page. My goodness me, you really have done some research into German Freemasonry and indeed, despite my number of years in the German Craft, you have opened my eyes quite considerably.
- I have sort of scan-read the article on Freemasonry in Germany but there is too much at this moment to be able to make detailed comment, but I promise to re-read it in a more "in-depth" way. Also the other stubs as you call them, will be read in depth and may be we can collectively expand the articles.
- The scoundrel who has been defiling the GL BFG page will also have to be monitored in these pages that you have created, because he will probably want to add his own stupid nonsense, especially in the short paragraph concerning British Freemasonry in Germany which you have created. The really sad thing here is, that at one time he was a very respected Mason and has written a book on the subject of British Freemasonry in Germany, he has also lectured on the subject. But probably as a result of his being dismissed from the Grand Lodge after a spat with the Grand Master at the time, he turned truly evil and vengeful. His two web-sites (now deleted as I previously mentioned) contained some of the most dreadful and libellous diatribes I have ever come across. As a consequence, he is reviled and looked upon with utter contempt by the rest of GL BFG. His utterances were so bad that one seriously questioned whether he could ever have been a true Freemason, since no person ever truly believing in the ideals of the Craft, could possibly lower himself to write such evil and nasty blether! Whatever, I appreciate your diligence and it looks like we have another Crusader - "Forest Treekeeper" ... I think I know who he is, but will respect his privacy.
- I will now spend a few days looking deeper into your efforts, which must repeat I admire for the huge amount of research which must have been involved.
- Kind regards
- C V.
- Just for a bit of information, I'm reasonably fluent in the German language. I've been looking a bit deeper into your page in Wikipedia "Freemasonry in Germany" and I have been examining the part "Origins". I don't want to edit this page, at least not yet because your researches are obviously so well conducted and it is therefore quite possible that I am wrong.
- What I'm getting at is the first Lodge in Hamburg. If one examines the web-site http://www.absalom.de/geschichte/, one sees that this Lodge was, as you state indeed founded on 6th December 1737, but they claim that the Lodge was first called "Loge d'Hambourg" and then later named "Absolom zu den drei Nesseln". Is this correct in your eyes? Their history (Geschichte) page is, considering the importance of the matter, rather sparse in its content, but there is no reference to the naming having been first been conducted in 1743.
- On a different note, we celebrated 275 years of Freemasonry in Germany in 2012in a cathedral in Hamburg and it was a tremendous occasion!
- Best regards and looking forward to your comments
- Thanks for your reply to my previous message. I have now edited the page with the information I have garnered. Please be so kind as to check it for me to ensure it is how you would like it to read.
- As for the language involved, it is difficult to assess fully, but there are strong grounds to believe that you are correct in your thoughts. We need to remember that the French language was the language of the elite in many countries, Russia being a classic example. It was a kind of snobbishness and also a means to prevent the lower class persons from understanding what was being talked about when they were in the presence of the nobility. We also need to remember that Freemasons in those early days were most probably from the elite, so it is quite reasonable to presume that the language in the German Lodges in those days was indeed French.
- I've been taking a closer look at the web-site of the United Grand Lodges of Germany (VGLvD) and there are some interesting bits of information in respect of the founding of the VGLvD. So with your permission, I have examined the articles on that web-site a little more closely and then added them to your page. They were of course in German, but I trusted myself to be able to translate these and just hope they fit in with your findings.
- On a different note, there are additional bits of information which should be added to the page "Grand Lodge of British Freemasons in Germany" and this I will also do in the next few days. My problem here is that our "friend" might try to sabotage these, so I would be grateful if you would keep a watchful eye on the page (as I will as well of course) and undo any vandalism.
- I would also like to work a little on the Women's Freemasonry section, but that can wait.
- This is all turning out to be a really interesting project. I've been also looking at some of the other pages on Freemasonry where you have been busy. Goodness me, you really have been researching the whole subject - I'm well impressed!
- I've tidied up the previous edits - I wasn't very happy with what I had originally typed, in that the text didn't flow too well. I hope you like what I've done.
- On an entirely different note, I wonder if you have seen the film "The Scottish Key". It gives a very good account of the possible or indeed the probable origins of Freemasonry. It also shines quite a bit of light on Joseph Desaguliers and James Anderson. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it strongly too you. It can be downloaded for a small fee.
- I wonder if you would like to continue correspondence by email. If so, simply send an email to email@example.com, but if you prefer to continue chatting this way, I'll understand fully.
A long time since we communicated.
I am particularly pleased that you reversed the edit from the villain. I was going to do it myself, but was sure it would create a situation of him repeating the edit until one of the Wikipedia supervisors undertook major avoidance measures.
I hope all is well.
Once again the time of year and associated temperatures indicate that it is approaching Christmas. Although we haven't communicated in a while, I wish you all the best for Christmas and hope you see in the new year well and happy!
Just for interest, there is an article on the bbc.com website ... http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20161209-secret-history-of-the-freemasons-in-scotland. You may have to use tricks to access it, because it is part of BBC's overseas information source and access to it from the UK is "forbidden", but I'm sure you'll find a way around that.
All the best
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User:1lum1nat1 I actually don't know much of anything about the various Illuminati organizations, I just study memes, and the way the page was formatted was harming the potency of the header. The reason I was fine with "The Order of The Illuminati" is because it flows a little more naturally. The entire reason I created this account is because I wanted more people to click that link. Thanks to you and Ian for teaching me to use Wikipedia though!
For the record, I do not seriously believe Ian earns the majority of his money (or any of it) from being part of a Globalist conspiracy to turn frogs homosexual using advanced technology. I was trying to make him laugh to increase the likelihood that the page would continue to go unedited. 1llum1nat1 (talk) 04:18, 11 February 2017 (UTC) User:1llum1nat1